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Title: Iraq war returns as prime debate issue
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URL Source: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a ... returns_as_prime_debate_issue/
Published: Feb 1, 2008
Author: Susan Milligan
Post Date: 2008-02-01 08:10:02 by angle
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Views: 157
Comments: 9

LOS ANGELES - Democratic Senator Hillary Clinton last night defended her 2002 vote to authorize force in Iraq as a "reasoned" decision at the time, while her primary opponent, Senator Barack Obama, said Clinton's vote raised questions about whether she has the judgment to lead the country.

In the last debate before Super Tuesday and the first two-person face-off since the campaign began more than a year ago, Iraq - long dormant as an issue in the Democratic race - returned to the forefront last night. Obama said his consistent antiwar stance would make him a stronger candidate against Senator John McCain of Arizona, the GOP front-runner. Clinton, meanwhile, portrayed herself as the contender with the experience and gravitas to confront a Republican opponent in the general election campaign.

"I've said many times that if I knew then what I know now, I would never have given President Bush the authority" to attack Iraq, Clinton said, declining to apologize for her vote. But there was "a credible case" for the resolution, Clinton said, adding that she did not expect Bush to invade Iraq in March 2003 without letting the weapons inspectors first finish their work.

Obama, an Illinois lawmaker who was not in the Senate when the vote was taken in October 2002, countered that "everybody, the day after the vote was taken, understood that this was a vote to go to war." While Clinton has "fairly" espoused her experience and ability to take charge from day one, he said, "it is important to be right on day one."

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Iraq and Iran in the Democratic Debate

Here are the Iraq portions of the Barack-Hillary debate in Los Angeles Thursday night. Both candidates impressed me with their grasp of detail and the serious thought that they have given for how to get out of Iraq without leaving behind a catastrophe that will come around to bite us on the ass. Chuck Todd says he thought Barack won the debate on the strength of his Iraq comments, and that Hillary was at a disadvantage because she had to explain once again why she voted to authorize the war. She even put herself in a position of being called naive about Bush by Wolf Blitzer, the moderator, because she went on about how she hadn’t expected Bush to misuse the authorization.

I didn’t see others comment on Barack’s dig at Hillary over "mission creep" toward Iran. This was a reference to her vote for the Kyl-Lieberman resolution encouraging Bush to declare the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps a terrorist organization (even though they are now a regular military analogous to the US National Guards, and in the past terrorism has been defined as the action of a non-state actor). Clinton painted Obama as soft on Iran, he painted her as devoted to mission creep and confrontation with Iran. This might be another point on which he won; polling does not suggest the American public wants practical belligerent steps toward Iran.

It is worth noting that Clinton misstated the 1998 events. The US did not bomb Iraq because Saddam "kicked out" the UN weapons inspectors. The US decided to bomb Iraq for other reasons and therefore ordered the inspectors out of the country. The myth that Saddam "kicked out" the inspectors just won’t die.

Here is what the candidates said:

OBAMA: And the last point I’ll make is on Iraq. Senator Clinton brought this up. I was opposed to Iraq from the start. (Cheers, applause.) And that —and I say that not just to look backwards but also to look forwards, because I think what the next president has to show is the kind of judgment that will ensure that we are using our military power wisely.

It is true that I want to elevate diplomacy, so that it is part of our arsenal to serve the American people’s interests and to keep us safe.

And I have disagreed with Senator Clinton on, for example, meeting with Iran. I think — and the National Intelligence Estimate, the last report suggested that if we are meeting with them, talking to them, and offering them both carrots and sticks, they are more likely to change their behavior, and we can do so in a way that does not ultimately cost billions of dollars, thousands of lives, and hurt our reputation around the world. (Applause.) . . .

MR. MCMANUS: A question about the issue of Iraq. Senator Clinton, you’ve both called for a gradual withdrawal of combat troops from Iraq, but Senator Obama says he wants all combat troops out within 16 months of his Inauguration, and you haven’t offered a specific end date. Why shouldn’t voters worry that your position could turn into an open-ended committment?

SEN. CLINTON: Well, because, Doyle, I have been very clear in saying that I will begin to withdraw troops in 60 days. I believe that it will take me one to two brigades a month, depending upon how many troops we have there, and that nearly all of them should be out within a year...

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