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Dead Constitution See other Dead Constitution Articles Title: What is insurance...... anyway? Some time ago, I mentioned something about insurance. I have left the subject alone, largely, because so many in this 4um are convinced that, somehow, and against all reason, the government needs to do something about 'their' insurance. What delusions! Give me liberty.... and some insurance on the side, willya? Yesterday, I posted Plan B, which is saying the same thing, basically, that I have been saying in the 4um for some months; all of you want Dr. Paul to save you...... from yourselves. And by the way, solve the budget crisis, balance the budget, bring back sound money, defeat the Neo-Cons, cut off Israel, tame the Federal Reserve Bank, and, do all of this without much change in Congress, cause we all know that ain't gonna happen! One man, to change a nation. More like a god than a man. Oh, and by the way, be sure, Dr. Paul, to do something about that national insurance for health care. Freedom is not possible unless and until the people.... note this well; THE PEOPLE! Have control of their local republic. And if you are curious as to what that means, I will be putting up a post about it shortly, today! And no one can have a repuplic unless and until they accept personel responsibility for their own health, retirement, work, and etc. Which brings us back to; what is insurance, and, why does the 'government' insist that everyone has it?! After all, those guys from the government, they is only here to hep us, right? What is Social Security, anyway? "The Social Security system may be accurately described as a form of Social Insurance, enacted pursuant to Congress' power to 'spend money in aid of the "general welfare",' Helvering vs. Davis [301 U.S., at 640]." "My judgment accordingly is, that policies of insurance are within... the admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the United States." Federal Judge Story, in DELOVIO VS. BOIT, 7 Federal Cases, #3776, at page 444 (1815). (This case has never been overturned, because it is impossible to change this fact of law. All insurance is of Admiralty-Maritime jurisdiction under international law, and a policy of insurance is considered prima fascia evidence that you are a United States citizen. The benefit of passing off your liability for carelessness onto some one else through “insurance” is considered a privilege by the government, and is known as limited liability. - Richard) So go ahead, sign up for more insurance, insure yourself to the max, and then wonder why you have no freedoms. Oh, and by the way, I posted the following some time ago, but this is to put everything into perspective; Why Admiralty jurisdiction? "This power is as extensive upon land as upon water. The Constitution makes no distinction in that respect. And if the admiralty jurisdiction, in matters of contract and tort which the courts of the United States may lawfully exercise on the high seas, can be extended to the lakes under the power to regulate commerce, it can with the same propriety and upon the same construction, be extended to contracts and torts on land when the commerce is between different States. And it may embrace also the vehicles and persons engaged in carrying it on (my note - remember what the law of the flag said when you receive benefits from the king.) It would be in the power of Congress to confer admiralty jurisdiction upon its courts, over the cars engaged in transporting passengers or merchandise from one State to another, and over the persons engaged in conducting them, and deny to the parties the trial by jury. Now the judicial power in cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction, has never been supposed to extend to contracts made on land and to be executed on land. But if the power of regulating commerce can be made the foundation of jurisdiction in its courts, and a new and extended admiralty jurisdiction beyond its heretofore known and admitted limits, may be created on water under that authority, the same reason would justify the same exercise of power on land." -- Propeller Genessee Chief et al. v. Fitzhugh et al. 12 How. 443 (U.S. 1851) Oh, yes indeed. Gimme more of that old fashioned insurance, please. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 14.
#1. To: richard9151, robin, Jethro Tull, all (#0)
OK, lets get it on. Being disabled and knowing what a life saver insurance is, just let me start by saying even Dr Paul says promises have been made to people. Those promises should be kept to those in dependence, but to let others opt out. A gradual change. We MUST retain our humanity. But then even regular private insurance HAS to change.I am a HUGE advocate of decoupling insurance from the workplace.It makes our products and sevices cheaper and solves lots of problems.
CT, when Richard begins to teeter down this wacky, "patriot" road, run, don't walk to the nearest exit. Of course anyone who has paid into SS deserves the disability component of it if, god forbid, they need it. I have no idea what Ricardo receives 'free' down Mexico way, but his lectures to Americans have become tedious.
Did not realize he comes to school in the short bus...never mind.
That's the President of the United States you're thinking of.
#16. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#14)
The more i see and hear this election cycle the more sure I am that this Country needs a national fleet of those little busses too !
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