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Title: The Lesser Evil - Is It Obama?
Source: Me
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Published: Feb 2, 2008
Author: Me, Me, Me
Post Date: 2008-02-02 09:54:54 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 664
Comments: 60

Discussing reality, absent some improbable catastrophic discontinuity, one of these 4 is going to be replacing Bush in the WH:

McCain, Romney, Hillary, Obama.

Sadly, the only criterion other than 'gut feelings' that could be applied to favor one of the 4 is 'the lesser evil'.

On the GOP side, the lesser evil is Romney. On the Demo side the lesser evil is Obama-mama.

Between Romney and Obama... Obama is probably the lesser evil. Both Romney and Obama will find it more difficult to expand the Prez power, Romney because he's a Mormonist and Obama because he's a half-Black (African-American-American?) but it would probably be more difficult for Obama to abuse his powers because he will be constantly fear for his life while in office.

Thoughts?

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#1. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Join the Ron Paul Revolution
Freedom*Peace*Prosperity

Lod  posted on  2008-02-02   9:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

No matter who wins, I want the President to be of a different party than Congress, so we will have gridlock.

I probably wouldn't mind seeing Obama win. Let's see him act like a stupid white man and expand the war. He'll go down in history as another O.J. Simpson -- this country gives him everything it can and he still proves himself to be just another negro.

I don't think he wants that to happen.

"Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave." - Roy Batty

YertleTurtle  posted on  2008-02-02   10:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: YertleTurtle (#2)

Indeed, a prez of a different party than the congress would help somewhat. Obama as a prez may be our own Evita :))) - as our state's history is entering the Operetta phase.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-02   10:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)

isn't Obama CFR?

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-02   10:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#4)

Yes, and his wife.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-02   10:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#4)

I am talking about 'the lesser evil' because this is what we have.

I remember reading somewhere that Ha'aretz, rating the current candidates to the presidency from the p.o.v. of their usefulness to Israel had Obama last with a rating of 5 (out of 10). Jewliani was #1 and Hillary, I believe, was either #2 or very close to the top.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-02   10:21:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#6)

With Obama, we may not see an Israel-first strategy, but if he pursues a global government strategy it's even worse. Global government is the real threat here anyway.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-02   10:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeye (#7)

The issue I am raising is: "is Obama 'the lesser evil'"? I am not asking anyone to vote for him or to actively support him. I am only observing that, out of the four semi-finalists he appears to be the least harmful. If this is not the case then, which one is it?

Hillary?

Mitt?

John?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-02   10:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#8)

I respect your careful analysis of this situation. It demonstrates your concern for the country. But I can't cast my ballot in preference for any of these harbingers of tyranny.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-02   10:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: buckeye (#9)

Understood. I am not sure if I would actually vote of Obama if he was the Demo and McCain was his opponent. I might do so because McCain appears to be partly senile and partly insane. If Obama's opponent was Romney, I'd probably write in Mr. Paul, even though his tactics disappointed me. If Hillary was running against McCain... I don't know if I'd actually vote for Hillary because I don't want a madman replacing a moron but I don't want a presidential dynasty either.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-02   10:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#10)

No doubt you're trying to do the best you can.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-02   10:45:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#10)

Super Obama Girl

Comic relief.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-02   15:50:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeye, TwentyTwelve, wudidiz, christine, ALL (#12)

The Original Ron Paul Girl Video

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-02-02   16:07:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0) (Edited)

You are a muslim Obama supporter. Not a right winger at all.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-07   17:59:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Another Neoconbama vanity? World socialism sucks and you're a vacuum.

"

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-07   18:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Old Friend (#14)

I don't know. I really, really don't.

How does it feel to be a stupid, loser creep and know it? :))) Don't plea ignorance, claiming that you're not. Like McCain, you know who you are. You probably don't know why you are the way you are (life's unfair) but you definitely know who/what you are.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-08   19:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

It's Palin.

Who was not even on the scope in February...

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-08   20:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lodwick (#17)

Palin is 'the lesser evil'? I don't think so.

By the way, my analysis was right on the money back in February. Did you notice that?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-08   20:16:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lodwick (#17)

It's Palin.

She gets my vote for snake-in-the-grass.

angle  posted on  2008-09-08   20:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: angle (#19)

You know, at this stage of our collapse, I don't think that it makes any difference.

Congress won't declare any 'wars,' they won't pass any 'budgets,' they won't hold anyone responsible for any acts of treason...why not vote for a hottie?

She couldn't do any worse than BigDick and the chimperor, could she?

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-08   20:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lodwick (#20)

To borrow Obama's slogan, YES, SHE COULD!

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-08   20:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lodwick (#20)

She is no better or worse that the rest of the heap. She did give a terrific speech and if Obama can be elevated to sainthood for his power of oration, Sarah at least deserves honorary mention.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-08   20:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

She is no better or worse that the rest of the heap. She did give a terrific speech and if Obama can be elevated to sainthood for his power of oration, Sarah at least deserves honorary mention.

Yeah - at this level, it's a joke.

A half-breed with a nut-job mate, and a half-wit with who knows what mate.

None of them have anything but hot-air to run on. Really, really sad.

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-08   20:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lodwick (#20)

She couldn't do any worse than BigDick and the chimperor, could she?

Could Bush do worse than Cinton?

angle  posted on  2008-09-09   7:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lodwick (#23)

A half-breed

Now I think you're getting somewhere.

angle  posted on  2008-09-09   7:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: YertleTurtle (#2)

No matter who wins, I want the President to be of a different party than Congress, so we will have gridlock.

Absolutely right. We can't hope for anything good to come out of Washington, so the best option for us is for as little to happen as possible. Otherwise, every step is a step backwards or sideways.

The best scenario would be a GOP Congress with Obama as President. Congress will pass, Obama will veto. Obama will appoint, Congress will block. And so on for four years. The irony is that Obama will oppose bills passed by a GOP Congress that he'd support if they were passed by Democrats, and vice-versa. It's all part of the partisan politics game.

McCain as President with a Democratic Congress is slightly worse, because McCain has a good track record of working with Democrats.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-09   11:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: lodwick, angle (#17) (Edited)

It's Palin

She's George W. Bush with different plumbing. When she started on about how the war in Iraq was part of God's plan, I thought to myself "Haven't we heard enough of this shit over the past 8 years." That shouldn't be anyone's idea of a lesser evil.

As for McCain vs. Obama, it's basically a toss-up. McCain is Bush on crystal meth, Obama is Clinton on crack.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-09   11:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Rupert_Pupkin, angle, all (#27)

I shouldn't have taken the time to re-register to vote.

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-09   11:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lodwick (#28)

I shouldn't have taken the time to re-register to vote.

All it gets you is high priority for jury duty.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-09   11:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#29)

All it gets you is high priority for jury duty.

Fully informed jurors are not smiled on here in Travis county.

I can't even remember the last time I had to answer the cattle call.

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-09   11:51:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: angle (#19)

It's Palin.

She gets my vote for snake-in-the-grass.

At this point, while neither ticket is to my liking, a friend of mine pointed out that Obama has been a big supporter of all the "Mental Hellth" State measures such as the Orwellian "New Freedom" Iniative to screen every kid in America so the Pharma companies can sell them drugs, along with the Mother Act to put a "Case Worker" with every birth. This is all stuff of the 1984 mode and I am beginning to tip toward voting against Oh'Bummer by voting for McLame.

Not a pleasant choice but while the lesser evil is still evil it is still a lesser evil.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-09-09   11:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Original_Intent (#31)

At this point, while neither ticket is to my liking, a friend of mine pointed out that Obama has been a big supporter of all the "Mental Hellth" State measures such as the Orwellian "New Freedom" Iniative to screen every kid in America so the Pharma companies can sell them drugs, along with the Mother Act to put a "Case Worker" with every birth. This is all stuff of the 1984 mode and I am beginning to tip toward voting against Oh'Bummer by voting for McLame.

Not a pleasant choice but while the lesser evil is still evil it is still a lesser evil.

People settling for the "lesser evil" is the reason why we only get non-choices like Obama or McCain, Bush or Kerry, Bush or Gore, Clinton or Dole, in elections.

And when it comes to 1984 mode, you can bet McCain will do all he can to jam an expanded Patriot Act down your throat.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-09   12:01:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#27)

As for McCain vs. Obama, it's basically a toss-up. McCain is Bush on crystal meth, Obama is Clinton on crack.

LOL! That would be a most excellent tagline.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-09   12:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: lodwick (#28)

shouldn't have taken the time to re-register to vote.

When Russia was under Communism the party leaders always got 90% or more of the votes, it's the same in the USA under Zionism, except the stupid goys have been duped into believing the Republicrats are two different parties.

Black Obama is just as likely to start World War Three as McSwein. Rational human beings will vote third party or not vote al all.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-09-09   12:11:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Zoroaster. everyone (#34)

When Russia was under Communism the party leaders always got 90% or more of the votes, it's the same in the USA under Zionism, except the stupid goys have been duped into believing the Republicrats are two different parties.

Don't we re-elect ninety-five or six percent of our incumbents?

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-09   12:15:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Original_Intent (#31)

This is all stuff of the 1984 mode and I am beginning to tip toward voting against Oh'Bummer by voting for McLame.

what????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-09-09   12:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Zoroaster (#34)

Rational human beings will vote third party or not vote at all.

yes

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-09-09   12:22:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeye (#12)

Super Obama Girl

Just goes to show that great outward beauty can hide a pretty much empty head.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-09   13:21:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Original_Intent (#31)

This is all stuff of the 1984 mode and I am beginning to tip toward voting against Oh'Bummer by voting for McLame.

8 years and you haven't had enough. That's one sad commentary.

angle  posted on  2008-09-09   23:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Original_Intent (#31)

Not a pleasant choice but while the lesser evil is still evil it is still a lesser evil.

Depends on your deffinition of lesser evil. Be it fascist or communist, loss of freedom is loss of freedom.


"You have delusions of adequacy."

farmfriend  posted on  2008-09-09   23:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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