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Dead Constitution See other Dead Constitution Articles Title: citizen of the United States -- How? Why? citizen of the United States It does not matter how much or how long you have been studying, only what you have the humility to see and learn. Someone wrote me with the statements , "Do you live in the USA, and where you born in the USA? You are a citizen of the USA. " and believed they knew what they were talking about because they have already decided they knew. The truth is that -- "Merely being native born within the territorial boundaries of the United States of America does not make such an inhabitant a Citizen of the United States subject to the jurisdiction of the Fourteenth Amendment." Elk vs.. Wilkins, Neb (1884), 5s.ct.41,112 U.S. 99, 28 L. Ed. 643. There is no reason that you should not have known this after 30 years of research except that you choose not to learn it. It was true that the -- "People of a state are entitled to all rights which formerly belonged to the king by his prerogative." Lansing vs Smith 21 D. 89...4 Wendell 9, 20 (1829) And -- "In one sense, the term `sovereign' has for its correlative `subject.' In this sense, the term can receive no application; for it has no object in the [Original] Constitution of the United States. Under that Constitution there are citizens, but no subjects." Chishom v.Georgia, 2 Dall. (U.S.) 419,455, 1L Ed 440 (1793). But this was only true in those early days: "For when the [so called American] revolution took place, the people of each state became themselves sovereign; and in that character hold the absolute right to all their navigable waters, and the soils under them, for their own common use, subject only to the rights since surrendered by the constitution to the general government." Martin vs Waddell, 41 US (16 Pet) 367, 410 (1842) Surrendered to the United States? Have rights been surrendered? How is this done? The truth is things are surrendered by the same old methods. What should have been for your welfare has become a snare. Then there was a new type of citizenship offered as members of a political society in the midst of a once free Republic. "In the United States citizenship is defined in the fourteenth amendment to the Constitution as: `All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and the States wherein they reside.'" Quincy vs.. Duncan. 4Har.(Del.) 383; etc. (see Black's 3rd.) Today, "in the United States `it [citizenship] is a political obligation' depending not on ownership of land, but on the enjoyment of the protection of government; and it `binds the citizen to the observance of all laws' of his sovereign." Wallace v. Harmstad, 44 Pa. 492; etc. Black's 3rd Ed. p. 95. "Protection draws to it subjection; subjection protection" Originally, citizenship did not include the title or sense of subject, but later in the United States, we see a citizenship binding subjects to the laws of a "sovereign". "Citizenship is membership in a political society and implies a duty of allegiance on the part of the member and a duty of protection on the part of the society. These are reciprocal obligations, one being a compensation for the other." Luria v. U.S., 231 U.S. 9, 34 S. Ct. 10,13, 58 L.Ed. 101.(see Black's 3rd.) "A person born in the United States has rights under this amendment (the 14th) to remain a citizen unless he voluntarily relinquishes the citizenship." Baker v Rusk, Cal. (1969) 236 F. Supp. 1244; Reynolds v. Haskin, C.A.A. Kan. 1925, 8 F. 2d 473. Being born in the United States by law does not make you a citizen of the United States. Those should be basics in our understanding. Membership in the United States is a choice. People do not understand that they make that choice as a matter of faith. As I said, the United States is not a Republic but an indirect democracy created in a republic. "I believe in the United States of America as a government… whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed: a democracy in a republic." The American Creed. Citizen vs. Citizen www.hisholyc http://hurch.net/ study/gods/ cvc.htm Peace on your house Gregory@hisholychurch.org Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 6.
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Hello yer ownself. Find anything of interest? Useful? Meaningful?
sovereign man?
No, sorry, I have a King.
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