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Title: Romney wins Maine Republican primary [bizarre lack of coverage]
Source: AFP
URL Source: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j8KFbEKY9e7q81jweLyb-mRwyZzw
Published: Feb 3, 2008
Author: AFP
Post Date: 2008-02-03 09:00:55 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 408
Comments: 17

Romney wins Maine Republican primary

10 hours ago

NEW YORK (AFP) — Presidential hopeful and former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney won Saturday's Republican primary election in the northeastern state of Maine, the Republican Party said.

With 57 percent of votes counted, Romney took 52 percent, followed by the national frontrunner, Arizona Senator John McCain with 22 percent, Ron Paul with 19 percent and Mike Huckabee 5 percent.

"With those results it is very sure that former governor Romney wins the contest," Maine Republican Party vice chair Scott Kauffman told AFP.

Although the Maine primary carries little weight in the national nominating contest, it does provide a symbolic boost for the conservative candidate in his attempt to overtake McCain in national opinion polls ahead of the key "Super Tuesday" event when more than 20 states are at stake.

"Today the people of Maine joined those from across the nation in casting their vote for conservative change in Washington," Romney, 60, said after the results were announced.

The Maine primary elects delegates to the state convention in May, which in turn will name delegates to the Republican national convention in September to choose the candidate.

Maine's Republican primary, however, is non-binding, with the 21 chosen delegates free to vote for whomever they chose at the state convention.

The Democratic Party will hold its primary in Maine on February 10.

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#1. To: All (#0)

I am somewhat surprised.

Also, this is one of RP's better showing, at #3 with 19% of the cast vote.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-03   9:02:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Every news story I've read says only 69% of the precincts reporting.

The surge is working, but "we need more time." (100 years, according to Sinator McInsane).

angle  posted on  2008-02-03   9:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: angle (#2) (Edited)

Hmmm... primary? Caucus?... let's take a vote :))))

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Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-03   9:17:02 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

I have been following the posts in the Winning Maine forum at ronpaulforums.com and according to Maineuhs, Romney is winning the unofficial straw poll, but Ron Paul is electing the most state delegates to the state convention. Apparently the vote which has Romney in the lead means nothing. When the state delegates go to their convention in May, they decide the national delegates. After today it will be known who REALLY won.

www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=110299

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Critter  posted on  2008-02-03   9:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Critter (#4)

CNN lists its results by the number of delegates elected to the state convention.

Thus Romney has 2,362 state delegates but none elected to the RNC convention, while McCain has 958, Paul has 851, and Huckabee has 268.

REPUBLICAN CAUCUSES February 02, 2008
Updated 9:34 p.m. EST, Feb 2, 2008 68% precincts reporting

Candidate State Del.* % Del*

Romney 2,362 52% 0

McCain 958 21% 0

Paul 851 19% 0

Huckabee 268 6% 0

Undecided 94 2% 0

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-02-03   9:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#5)

According to the Maine GOP website, there are a total of 3,867 delegates allotted to over 400 townships. So CNN's calculations are clearly fictitious.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2pj4f/MRP%20Training/2008%20Delegate%20Allocation%20-%20Final.pdf

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-02-03   10:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: DeaconBenjamin (#6)

According to the Maine GOP website, there are a total of 3,867 delegates allotted to over 400 townships. So CNN's calculations are clearly fictitious.

why do they do that when a simple check as you did can verify the actual stats????

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-03   10:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: DeaconBenjamin (#5)

Those are straw poll votes, not delegates. CNN has it wrong.

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Critter  posted on  2008-02-03   10:32:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine, ALL, , *Ron Paul for President 2008* (#7)

I found this while lurking on net this morning....

Maine Caucus - The Real Story

The Corporate media is telling you that Mitt Romney won the Maine caucus with over 50% of the vote, and that McCain was a distant second with just over 20% followed closely by Ron Paul. They either don't know what they are talking about or don't care that they are reporting mis-information. It is a shame, but you have to turn to an amateur blogger to tell you the truth about what is happening in Maine....

There are actually two sets of elections going on in Maine. One is a non-binding preference poll for president, the other (more critical) elections are the ones where they pick the delegates to go to the state convention. Those are the people that will pick the delegates to the national Republican convention.

The numbers the corporate media are reporting are not for delegates to the state convention. They are merely the result of the non-binding poll taken of local attendees. In many cases this vote is taken even before spokesmen for the candidates make their case. What a caucus is really about is selecting delegates. If a Ron Paul supporter running for delegate has a lot of respect in their community, they can be elected as a town's delegate to the state convention even though most of the town voted for another candidate in the non-binding presidential preference poll.

Only the most committed citizens in the local caucus agree to also be a delegate at the state convention. As we read events on the ground, even though people voted for Romney in the non-binding preference poll, they voted to send supporters of Ron Paul to the state convention in at least equal numbers. When the dust settles in May, don't be surprised to see Paul getting more of the state's 18 national convention delegates than any other candidate.

In the state's largest city of Portland for example, at least 21 of the 59 delegates to the state convention are known supporters of Paul. In some of the smaller caucus meetings the results are even more amazing- in one meeting where they held the preference poll last, Paul supporters were 7 of the 11 delegates they are sending to the state convention even though Paul only got 6 votes in the non-binding preference poll! This happened when every Paul supporter in the room was selected as a delegate and one of them had to leave before the non-binding poll was taken.

The number one reason for the difference is in the level of commitment in the supporters of Paul relative to the other candidates. A close second would be that Paul had a lot of sympathy in the caucus meetings even from those who were (without much enthusiasm) voting for someone else.

To find out what the corporate media wants you to believe, turn on the boob tube. To find out what reality is, go outside your door and look around your town.

palo verde  posted on  2008-02-03   10:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: palo verde (#9)

That echoes the posts of the RP delegates in Maine posting on RP Forums.

Rebates for Ron Paul

Critter  posted on  2008-02-03   10:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: palo verde (#9)

Again, how can there be 59 delegates from Portland, and 3800 overall?

The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2008-02-03   10:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Critter (#10)

yes, Critter, you are right
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-02-03   10:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: DeaconBenjamin (#11)

Again, how can there be 59 delegates from Portland, and 3800 overall?

I don't know how it works?

all I am starting to see is the big media gives misleading picture of the whole race
appearances are deceiving

I read on Ron Paul's website that Super Tuesday does not decide everything
media is pumping it as the "important States"
but on Ron Paul's site they say there are many many States which votes afterwards
and those States could go for Ron Paul
Plus Ron said "a brokered convention means delegates can vote their conscience"
There is more here than meets the eye
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-02-03   10:48:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: DeaconBenjamin, palo verde (#11)

Just browse this forum for on the ground reports:

www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=157

The latest report has RP ahead of McCain in straw poll at 22%.

Other threads explain the delegate counts.

Rebates for Ron Paul

Critter  posted on  2008-02-03   11:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Critter (#14)

thank you Critter for this link and this info
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-02-03   11:46:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine, lodwick, dakmar, critter, Arator, robin, BrianS, peppa, Zipporah, wbales, Twentytwelve, FOH, Itisa1mosttoolate, richard9151, FormerLurker, cynicom, palo verde, buckeye, aristeides, ALL!!! (#7)

Plenty of doom and gloom at 4um today, so how about a good laugh? Check out this guy having a little fun with Fox 'News'...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-02-03   12:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: who knows what evil (#16)

Great stuff - thanks.

Now to find out where to get my V mask...

Join the Ron Paul Revolution
Freedom*Peace*Prosperity

Lod  posted on  2008-02-03   13:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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