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Title: State poll shows huge gains by Obama, McCain
Source: SF Chronicle
URL Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic ... 2008/02/03/MNF7UR6FE.DTL&tsp=1
Published: Feb 3, 2008
Author: John Wildermuth,Carla Marinucci
Post Date: 2008-02-03 09:22:30 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 178
Comments: 12

State poll shows huge gains by Obama, McCain

John Wildermuth,Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writers

A startling surge of support for Barack Obama has catapulted the Illinois senator into a virtual tie with Hillary Rodham Clinton in California's Democratic presidential primary, a Field Poll released Saturday shows.

Arizona Sen. John McCain lengthened his lead in the state Republican primary, grabbing a 32 to 24 percent edge among likely voters over former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee was at 13 percent and Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 10 percent.

But the Democratic numbers are the shocker. Clinton, a longtime California favorite, saw her once-commanding lead slip to two percentage points, 36 to 34 percent, in the new survey. That's down from the New York senator's 12 percentage point lead in mid-January and a 25 percentage point margin over Obama in October.

But with 18 percent of Democratic voters still undecided just days before Tuesday's primary, the election is still up for grabs, said Mark DiCamillo, the poll's director.

"It's an unusually volatile election, with a very high number of undecided voters and so many moving parts," he said. "It could be a very, very close election."

The head-to-head matchups between the Republican and Democratic candidates highlight both Clinton's loosening hold on California voters and McCain's growing strength in the state.

Clinton now clings to a bare 45 to 43 percent lead over McCain in a projected California presidential vote, down dramatically from her 17 percentage point margin just two weeks ago. Obama now holds a stronger 47 to 40 percent margin over the Arizona senator, but that's only half the 14 percentage point advantage he had in mid-January.

Both Democrats still run well ahead of Romney, collecting more than 50 percent of the vote in those matchups.

Obama's California campaign team said the latest polls reflect a hard-charging effort to track down potential voters in every precinct - undeterred by polls that showed the Illinois senator behind by double digits here for most of the race.

"If we hadn't laid the groundwork for the last year, we couldn't be delivering now," Debbie Mesloh, spokeswoman for the Obama campaign, said Saturday.

Averell "Ace" Smith, Clinton's California campaign manager, said the last-minute dead heat is to be expected in the nation's most populous state, which is "critical" to Clinton's effort to win the nomination.

"We always knew it would tighten," he said. "But we're incredibly confident in the organization we have to get out the vote."

The new poll shows why Obama's campaign has been targeting decline-to-state voters, who can cast ballots in the Democratic primary. While Clinton has a 37 to 31 percent lead over Obama among Democrats, Obama leads by an overwhelming 54 to 32 percent among nonpartisans, who will make up an estimated 13 percent of the primary voters.

The poll also highlights the dramatic split the Clinton-Obama battle has caused in the state's Democratic Party. Rich versus poor, young versus old, liberal versus conservative, men versus women: Each of those groups has lined up on different sides of the primary divide.

While people aged 18 to 29 back Obama by a margin of 11 percentage points, voters 65 and older support Clinton, 40 to 18 percent. Voters with household incomes of $40,000 or less back Clinton by an advantage of 11 percentage points, while those making $80,000 or more are strong Obama supporters.

Obama attracts voters who call themselves liberal, who have gone to graduate school and who are from the Bay Area, which backs him 41 to 31 percent. Clinton's strength is among conservatives and moderates, those with a high school education and residents of sprawling Los Angeles County, where she holds a 42 to 34 percent lead.

There's also a broad ethnic and gender gap between the campaigns. While white voters are split evenly between Clinton and Obama, the Illinois senator, whose late father was a black African, has a 55 to 19 percent lead among black voters, while Latinos back Clinton 52 to 19 percent.

Among men, Obama holds a 13 percentage point lead, the same advantage Clinton holds among women.

But for Clinton, even her good numbers show some ominous changes. In mid-January, the Field Poll showed her with a 19 percentage point lead among women and a huge 59 to 19 percent advantage with Latino voters. In two weeks, much of that backing has melted away.

While part of the reason for the huge number of undecided voters is last week's departure of John Edwards from the race, most of it seems to be honest angst among Democrats pressed to make a choice between two favored candidates, DiCamillo said.

"This is the Democratic rank and file having a hard time making a choice, because they like them both," he said.

On the Republican side, McCain continues to make an astounding comeback in a state where he was virtually given up for dead just months ago. He's moved from 12 percent in December to 22 percent in mid-January to 32 percent and the lead in the most recent poll.

"McCain's had a very good month," DiCamillo said. "He also benefits from Huckabee, who peels off some votes from Romney."

McCain's lead comes courtesy of a strong showing among moderate and moderately conservative Republicans, where he holds a 39 to 16 percent advantage over Romney.

Steve Schmidt, a senior strategist for McCain, said the new poll numbers reflect a national surge for the Arizona senator.

"From California to Massachusetts, Sen. McCain is on the move and getting ready for a big night on Tuesday," said Schmidt.

But Romney spokeswoman Sarah Pompeii said the latest figures will not stop them from pushing hard in California.

So much of the election still depends on who turns out to vote on Tuesday, which DiCamillo admitted is the hardest thing to project.

"There are cautionary notes," he said. "With those big differences among (Democratic) subgroups, an unexpectedly large turnout by any one of them can shift the final result. We don't know if Obama's surge will continue or if something will arrest it in the days before the election."

Both Democratic campaigns were working hard in the Bay Area on Saturday. Chelsea Clinton, the 27-year-old daughter of Sen. Clinton, spoke Saturday to hundreds of students at Oakland's Mills College, while Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry was in San Francisco to boost Obama's campaign.

Kerry was pleased Obama was closing the gap in California, but warned that "we've got to try even harder over the next few days because there are all of these absentee ballots out there - people who voted a few weeks ago when they thought the race was a foregone conclusion (for Clinton). It's proven not to be."

The poll was based on a telephone survey of 511 likely voters in the Democratic primary and 481 likely voters in the Republican primary and was conducted between Jan. 25 and Feb. 1. The margin of error is plus or minus 4.5 percentage points among Democrats, plus or minus 4.6 percentage points among Republicans and plus or minus 4.2 percentage points among general election voters.

Chronicle staff writer Joe Garofoli contributed to this report. E-mail the writers at jwildermuth@sfchronicle.com and cmarinucci@sfchronicle.com.

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#1. To: All (#0)

If Hillary ends up on top, so to speak, she will have little choice but invite Obama to take the VP. If Obama wins, he'll need to seek the whitest of the whites for the VP. Someone like Edwards.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-03   9:26:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

If Obama wins, he'll need to seek the whitest of the whites for the VP. Someone like Edwards.

Most intelligent folks are beyond the race issues. What Obamer would need is someone with, pardon the over-used expression, "gravitas"...an older sage, so to speak, and Edwards doesn't fit the criteria.

Sodie Pop  posted on  2008-02-03   10:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Sodie Pop, farmfriend, Sparker (#2)

Looking back on the Kali recall, it's obvious that Kaliforniastanians just vote for whatever the media tells them is their preferred candidate. If you don't believe the media tells people how to vote, just examine Arnie's success.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-03   10:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Sodie Pop (#2)

Most intelligent folks make up a minority of the vote.

Do you want proof? Who elected W twice? Was it the most intelligent folks who voted for him? I don't think so.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-03   12:11:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeye (#3)

don't get me started on the recall. This is why I'm changing parties. The same party leaders that gave us Arnie gave us the current slate of candidates. I vote Ron Paul then I'm out. Joining the American Independent Party (Constitution Party).


My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles,
and the letters get in the wrong places.
-- Winnie the Pooh

farmfriend  posted on  2008-02-03   12:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#4)

Do you want proof? Who elected W twice?

the first time W was put in office by the SC, the second time by Dieboldt and the Governor of Ohio. You want proof?

Sodie Pop  posted on  2008-02-04   10:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Sodie Pop (#2)

What Obamer would need is someone with, pardon the over-used expression, "gravitas"...an older sage, so to speak, and Edwards doesn't fit the criteria.

Dumbya managed to get by just fine without gravitas (the sleazy and uncharismatic Cheney joined the team as a handler, not as an elder statesman). All that it takes to con the average voter into voting for you is to make him like you, or your phony TV persona.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-02-04   12:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#7)

Dumbya managed to get by just fine without gravitas (the sleazy and uncharismatic Cheney joined the team as a handler, not as an elder statesman). All that it takes to con the average voter into voting for you is to make him like you, or your phony TV persona.

Yeah. Or someone to re-write history.

Cheney was billed and accepted as a grand old statesman at the time. If you'll remember correctly we were ALL just glad as hell to be rid of clinton at last. Until we found out what a horror was put in office.

Do you really think that SHOULD Obama get the nomination he WILL pick Edwards? Or are you just posting to read yourself post?

Sodie Pop  posted on  2008-02-04   13:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Sodie Pop (#8)

Who is your idea of a senior Democrat with gravitas? Ted Kennedy?

Edwards wouldn't be a bad choice for Obama. Obama's weakness would be the blue collar union vote, which would be Edwards' strength.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-02-04   13:46:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, *Ron Paul for President 2008* (#0)

Well I just got a cool recorded message from Dr. Ron Paul reminding me to vote for him tomorrow. And very kindly leaving me a general phone number if I have any questions about what time the polls are open in my state. (I wish I had not answered, and let the machine record it so I could have played it again!)

Well done Ron Paul campaign!

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-02-04   13:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#9)

Who is your idea of a senior Democrat with gravitas? Ted Kennedy?

You're a funny guy. Not too funny.

Ted would probably not be a very good choice, however Dodd or Biden might be ok. Should Obama get the nod there are many possibilities out there for him. The talk going around is that he would name Edwards as AG, which would make more sense anyway, if he did decide he wanted Eddie around.

Edwards was painted as a loser last time, and a loser in this primary, so not a good choice.

I still think The Bitch will pull this one off...by hook or by crook, and most likely the latter.

Sodie Pop  posted on  2008-02-04   15:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)


My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles,
and the letters get in the wrong places.
-- Winnie the Pooh

farmfriend  posted on  2008-02-04   15:54:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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