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Title: Judge: Navy not exempt from sonar ruling
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Yahoo News
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Published: Feb 5, 2008
Author: ANDREW DALTON
Post Date: 2008-02-05 00:20:24 by kiki
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LOS ANGELES - The Navy must follow environmental laws placing strict limits on sonar training that may harm whales, despite President Bush's decision to exempt it, a federal judge ruled Monday. The Navy is not "exempted from compliance with the National Environmental Policy Act" and a court injunction creating a 12 nautical-mile no-sonar zone off Southern California, U.S. District Judge Florence-Marie Cooper wrote in a 36-page decision. "We disagree with the judge's decision," White House spokesman Tony Fratto said. "We believe the orders are legal and appropriate." The president signed a waiver Jan. 15 exempting the Navy and its anti-submarine warfare exercises from a preliminary injunction creating the no-sonar zone. The Navy's attorneys argued in court last week that he was within his legal rights. Environmentalists have fought the use of sonar in court, saying it harms whales and other marine mammals. "It's an excellent decision," said Joel Reynolds, attorney for the Natural Resources Defense Council, which is spearheading the legal fight. "It reinstates the proper balance between national security and environmental protection." The Navy last week wrapped up a training exercise by the carrier strike group of the USS Abraham Lincoln in which sonar was used. There are currently no task force training exercises off the coast of California using sonar. When he signed the exemption, Bush said complying with the law would "undermine the Navy's ability to conduct realistic training exercises that are necessary to ensure the combat effectiveness of carrier and expeditionary strike groups." Said Reynolds: "I've always felt that the president's actions were illegal in this case, and the judge has affirmed that point of view with the decision today." The judge also wrote that she has "significant concerns about the constitutionality of the President's exemption," but that a ruling based on constitutionality was not needed to reinstate the injunction. A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco had been expected to rule on the future of the Navy exercises last month. After Bush's decision, the appeals court sent the issue to the U.S. District Court in Los Angeles for reconsideration. Navy spokeswoman Lt. Cmdr. Cindy Moore did not say what the military's next legal move may be. Government attorneys can appeal Cooper's decision to the 9th Circuit or could ask the appeals court to allow sonar exercises until the appeal is resolved. Scientists have said that loud sonar can damage the brains and ears of marine mammals, and that it may mask the echoes some whales and dolphins listen for when they use their own natural sonar to locate food. The Navy maintains that it already minimizes risks to marine life and has employed sonar for decades without seeing any whale injuries. The sonar is essential for tracking submarines, it said.
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#1. To: kiki (#0)
The Navy maintains...sonar is essential for tracking submarines, it said. The Navy is a day late and a dollar short when a Communist Chinese submarine can surface in the middle of an aircraft carrier battle group.
"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck
A patently false statement. The beached whales, the ones that just show up and refuse to leave and even return when towed back to sea were fatally injured by sonar. I never thought there was any question of that.
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Yeppers. The capitalists sold them the rope, and now it's just a question of when the trap door snaps open.
When he signed the exemption, Bush said complying with the law would "undermine the Navy's ability to conduct realistic training exercises that are necessary to ensure the combat effectiveness of carrier and expeditionary strike groups."
#2. To: kiki (#0)
The Navy maintains that it already minimizes risks to marine life and has employed sonar for decades without seeing any whale injuries.
#3. To: X-15 (#1)
The Navy is a day late and a dollar short when a Communist Chinese submarine can surface in the middle of an aircraft carrier battle group.
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#4. To: kiki, *Agriculture-Environment* (#0)
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#5. To: Pinguinite (#2)
Screw the whales. “Nuke the pregnant gay whales for Christ!” is my motto.
The beached whales […] were fatally injured by sonar. I never thought there was any question of that.
#6. To: kiki (#0)
When he signed the exemption, Bush said complying with the law would "undermine the Navy's ability to conduct realistic training exercises that are necessary to ensure the combat effectiveness of carrier and expeditionary strike groups." In other news, President Bush signed a waver exempting federal law enforcement officers from being prosecuted for rape, theft, and murder. When he signed the exemption, Bush said complying with the law would "harm morale and undermine the federal government's authority over the citizens of the United States.
The president signed a waiver Jan. 15 exempting the Navy and its anti-submarine warfare exercises from a preliminary injunction creating the no-sonar zone. The Navy's attorneys argued in court last week that he was within his legal rights.
#7. To: kiki (#0)
I'll tell you what the Navy's/Bush's next move will be. Completley ignore the judge and his thirty-six page opinion. If there is one thing Bush has proven over the last seven years is that he can do whatever-the-fuck he wants to do and no one will do a damn thing about it. There is no reason to believe this issue will be any different. What is the judge going to do, hold him in contempt? Issue arrest warrants? Neither the secret service nor any federal law enforcement agency will follow those orders or allow anyone else to.
Navy spokeswoman Lt. Cmdr. Cindy Moore did not say what the military's next legal move may be.
#8. To: Hayek Fan (#7)
He still has to pretend otherwise.
If there is one thing Bush has proven over the last seven years is that he can do whatever-the-fuck he wants to do and no one will do a damn thing about it. There is no reason to believe this issue will be any different.
The surge is working, but "we need more time." (100 years, according to Sinator McInsane).
#9. To: karelian (#5)
That's your motto? You are irrelevant.
The surge is working, but "we need more time." (100 years, according to Sinator McInsane).
#10. To: Pinguinite (#2)
There's no question. Just the obligatory lying for the uneducated.
I never thought there was any question of that.
The surge is working, but "we need more time." (100 years, according to Sinator McInsane).
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