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Title: Pope Bows To The Jews!
Source: REAL JEW NEWS
URL Source: http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=136
Published: Feb 5, 2008
Author: Brother Nathanael Kapner
Post Date: 2008-02-05 21:45:51 by BroNathanael
Keywords: Pope, Good Friday Prayer, Jews
Views: 849
Comments: 57

A Special PICTORIAL REPORT By Former Jew Br Nathanael Kapner For:

REAL JEW NEWS @ www.realjewnews.com/

*** See Pics Of Jews Making Demands On Everybody" *** @ www.realjewnews.com/?p=136

"POPE BOWS TO THE JEWS!"

By Brother Nathanael Kapner Copyright © 2008

All Articles May Be Reproduced Only With Authorship of Br Nathanael Kapner & Link To Real Jew News @ www.realjewnews.com/

JEWS DEMAND APOLOGIES from the “goys.” But never once do the Jews apologize for their own crimes that they try to hide from the world.

Jews were persecutors of the early Church - murdering thousands of Christians. Yet what pope has ever asked the Jews to “apologize” for murdering Christians? Jews do not “apologize” for anything. Jews make everybody else “apologize.”

Now Pope Benedict, following in the footsteps of his brow-beaten predecessor, Pope John Paul, who apologized to the Jews for the so-called “wrongs inflicted on Jews by Christians,” has cowtowed to the Jews.

How so? By caving into the demands of Rabbi David Rosen, the head of the Jewish Committee for Interreligious Consultations. Rabbi Rosen demanded that Pope Benedict excise references to the “blindness” and “darkness” of the Jews in a Good Friday prayer that calls for their conversion to Christianity. The prayer originally read:

— “Almighty God, you do not refuse your mercy even to the perfidious Jews; Hear the prayers which we offer for their blindness so that they may acknowledge Christ and be delivered from their darkness.” —

The apt adjective “perfidious” was unfortunately removed by Pope John in 1959. But the Jews were still not satisfied. So Pope Benedict bowed to their pressure last week and took out the words “blindness” and “darkness” of the Jews. Tsk tsk.

See: “Pope Changes Prayer To Satisfy Jews” Here (All Links At www.realjewnews.com/?p=136)

JEWS MAKE DEMANDS ON EVERYONE. AREN’T WE ALL SICK OF IT BY NOW?

Catholics don’t dictate to Jews how they should word their Jewish prayers. Jews would certainly be offended if they did! But Jews are in the obnoxious habit of dictating to others how they should speak and pray about them. And if any are offended by their demands, they cry, “Anti Semite!” Aren’t we all sick of it by now?

Here are 3 options of what we can say to the Jews:

1. “Hey Jews!” We like telling it like it is. Go back to your synagogues and leave us alone!”

2. “Hey Jews! Acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Messiah and your leaders’ crime of crucifying Him!”

3. “Hey Jews! Become Christians and give up your racist religion!”

Now isn’t it about time we started making some demands of our own on the Jews? Huh?

For More See: “Jews & The Guilt Of Deicide” @ www.realjewnews.com/?p=68

And: “Why The Jews Hate Jesus Christ” @ www.realjewnews.com/?p=34

Brother Nathanael...Street Evangelist! @ www.brothernathanael.com

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#1. To: BroNathanael (#0)

1. “Hey Jews!” We like telling it like it is. Go back to your synagogues and leave us alone!”

Hey bud, I've got a little secret to share with you...

Jesus Christ was a Jew, and prayed to the God of the Jews. It is the God of the Jews whom he referred to as "Father".

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-02-06   1:12:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Hey bud, I've got a little secret to share with you ...

Jesus Christ was a Jew

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm

Whether one chooses to believe that Jesus was a Jew, or that Jesus existed at all, one is required to rely upon ancient texts coupled with faith and archaeological discoveries. I am in no way demeaning the veracity of scripture, only suggesting that many people (scholars) have made a variety of rational conclusions that are very different reading from the same scriptures.

Over time I've decided to refrain from disputing religion based trivialities and focus on my own personal study. This makes more sense to me because the scriptures are multi-layered evidences that often times (most) are self validating, and require a lot of time to dig them out. I appreciate the fact that others study the scriptures even when I might not draw the same conclusions.

Some people are interested in promoting an agenda through religious interpretations of scripture that are blatant fraud. I think a good example of this is the claim made by the Roman Church that Peter is the foundation stone, ie., "Rock" upon which the Church stands. Any student of scripture "KNOWS" that Peter was a weak and impulsive man that denied Christ 3 times. The scripture used to make this claim is one where Jesus is alleged to have asked Peter who did Peter think Jesus was. Peter made a couple of stabs at identifying Jesus by stating what others had said. Finally, Jesus asked "whom do you say that I am, Peter" ? Peter answered, the son of God, the Messiah, to which Jesus responded "right, and upon this rock I will build my church".

The true church is founded upon Christ, the Savior and Messiah, the ressurection, etc., ... but absolutely not upon Peter.

Until one uses certain criteria/claims made in scripture, by the Almighty Creator Himself, like "good fruit comes from a good tree" and vice versa, claims that violate these principles are likely to be believed wrongly even though offered by a preacher, priest or even a Pope. History is overwhelmingly replete with sadistic murdering priests that were in many instances fashioned as a "shadow government". They controlled the people and the politicians of their day. When Jesus was crucified it was by order of the Pharisees through their puppet, Pilate.

The Scriptures state that "there is nothing new under the sun". Today, we see Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc., [PUPPETS ALL], taking their marching orders from "neo-cons", the high priests of death, in a similar manner as their predecessors like Pilate.

Lastly, many people simply repeat things that others have said like "God helps those who help themselves" ... which isn't scripture. I find that most often the most vehement disputations are asserted by the least knowledgeable.

When we consider the possibility that we (the masses) have been manipulated like cattle for millenium by a collusion of forces, we would certainly include the priests, preachers and Popes, that have abused scriptures throughout recorded history to control us. Until we determine to run ourselves in the absence of the teachings of corrupted men, we have little chance of improving our lot. Strict adherence to Biblical teachings eliminates the temptations added to it by priests and offers simple guidance towards a happy and contented lifestyle.

noone222  posted on  2008-02-06   2:19:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Are you trying to imply that Jesus of Nazareth was not a Jew, and that his "Father in Heaven" was not the God of the Old Testament/Torah?

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-02-06   13:20:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Israelites aren't Jews.

noone222  posted on  2008-02-07   14:49:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Israelites aren't Jews

They're not "born again christians" either. The Israelites were most certainly followers of the Jewish religion. They most certainly ARE the people of the Torah.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-02-07   15:20:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

They're not "born again christians" either. The Israelites were most certainly followers of the Jewish religion. They most certainly ARE the people of the Torah.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you're wrong.

The Israelites were not followers of the JEWISH religion. There are strict Torah Jews that do base their religion on the Old Testament, however most modern Jews are Talmudic Jews that base their religion upon the BABYLONIAN TALMUD. (Jesus called these beliefs the Traditions of the Elders or the Traditions of men ... and he further said in this regard "Your laws make my father's laws OF NO EFFECT.)

There's no mention of a SYNAGOGUE in the Old Testament. (There is one in Psalms ... it's a mistranslation, otherwise there is no mention of any such thing as a synagogue.)

Look in Zondervan's dictionary of Biblical terms under Synagogue to find that the Synagogue came into existence after the return from the "SECOND" captivity in BABYLON.

The ten tribes that went into the first captivity (Assyria), NEVER RETURNED TO JERUSALEM, and many of them may very well be "BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS" !

My thoughts about this subject were similar to yours many years ago. I was wrong then and you are wrong now. (Don't fret it, most of modern Christendom is mistaken too.)

noone222  posted on  2008-02-07   17:43:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The ten tribes that went into the first captivity (Assyria), NEVER RETURNED TO JERUSALEM, and many of them may very well be "BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS" !

My point is that no person described in the Old Testament was a "born again christian", as such a thing didn't exist until the 20th Century.

And call the Israelites what you wish, but Jesus was not the King of Rome or King of Chistianity, he was the KING OF THE JEWS, in terms of his followers at least.

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-02-07   17:52:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

(1). My point is that no person described in the Old Testament was a "born again christian", as such a thing didn't exist until the 20th Century.

The tone seems to be argumentative, and I don't have the need.

To say that a born again Christian didn't exist until the 20th Century is to deny that Christians were baptized, prophetic, or tongue speaking from the time of Christ until sometime in the 20th Century. [Have it your way].

Jesus was the King of Israel, not Jews. The term Jew didn't exist in Jesus time. The Letter J didn't exist either ... Jesus was Yahshua.

It seems to be a hard concept to grasp until you do. Hebrews are not Jews. Israelites are not Jews. Moses didn't lead any Jews out of Egypt, only Hebrews/Israelites.

noone222  posted on  2008-02-07   18:37:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

To say that a born again Christian didn't exist until the 20th Century is to deny that Christians were baptized, prophetic, or tongue speaking from the time of Christ until sometime in the 20th Century. [Have it your way].

A "born again christian" in the modern sense is what I was referring to. The "speaking of tongues" is certainly a sect related novelty, and from what I've seen of the practice, is certainly far removed from any sort of true understanding of what Jesus had to teach.

Honestly, I don't give a whole lot of credence to modern day religions.

Jesus was the King of Israel, not Jews. The term Jew didn't exist in Jesus time. The Letter J didn't exist either ... Jesus was Yahshua.

The letters "G-O-D" didn't exist back then either, but that doesn't mean they didn't refer to the Creator in terms of God.

The Scriptures were Jewish Scriptures, not Babylonian, Buddhist, or Hindu.

What religion do you think the Hebrews practiced in the time of Jesus?

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-02-07   18:56:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The Scriptures were Jewish Scriptures, not Babylonian, Buddhist, or Hindu.

The "Traditions of the Elders / Traditions of Men" that Jesus spoke of were at that time oral traditions passed down by word of mouth that were later codified in 500 AD. This is known as the Babylonian Talmud and is the Bible of Judaism.

noone222  posted on  2008-02-07   19:39:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You said you were once Catholic, IIRC. I don't see it. When was that?

nobody  posted on  2008-02-07   20:02:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I was baptised as an infant and attended Catholic School through 8th Grade. I became an altar boy when the mass was still done in latin. I would add that I didn't have any bad experiences with priests or nuns to cause a sour grapes reaction. I always felt that the Church hesitated to teach the Bible, we'd get two sentences of Bible and 2 hours of priestly interpretation.

So much of the Catholic tradition is contrary to Biblical instruction that it amazes me more Catholics don't see it.

noone222  posted on  2008-02-08   2:11:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So much of the Catholic tradition is contrary to Biblical instruction that it amazes me more Catholics don't see it.

I don't follow you. My recollection is that it is right out of the Bible that when Jesus was asked if he was a king he said his kingdom was not of this world. My apologies in advance for not properly capitalizing all over the place. I know it's supposed to be wrong not to do so, but I've gotten lazy or tired of it, because the miracle-working Jesus described in the Bible never existed.

Going ex-Christian is probably usually a very aggravating experience, but also probably not as bad as quitting smoking, if my own experience is indicative. A lot of swear-words seemed to be an essential part of it for me. I wasn't really ever a very good Christian in the first place. I just couldn't accept the miracles. I tried, but it always ended up being personally embarrassing to me.

nobody  posted on  2008-02-08   21:24:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

but I've gotten lazy or tired of it, becuase the miracle-working Jesus described in the Bible never existed.

You're not alone ... many think the same as you do. Far be it from me to try to convince you otherwise. I'm not a preacher.

There is truth. Few find it.

noone222  posted on  2008-02-08   21:34:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#47. To: noone222 (#46)

I am prone to reverse letters on certain words a lot. It has to do with being left-handed, I suppose.

nobody  posted on  2008-02-08 21:37:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Another odd thing I do is leaf through books backward. Forget about me memorizing the alphabet backward, though.

nobody  posted on  2008-02-08 21:39:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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