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Title: Pope Bows To The Jews!
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REAL JEW NEWS
URL Source: http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=136
Published: Feb 5, 2008
Author: Brother Nathanael Kapner
Post Date: 2008-02-05 21:45:51 by BroNathanael
Keywords: Pope, Good Friday Prayer, Jews
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A Special PICTORIAL REPORT By Former Jew Br Nathanael Kapner For: REAL JEW NEWS @ www.realjewnews.com/ *** See Pics Of Jews Making Demands On Everybody" *** @ www.realjewnews.com/?p=136 "POPE BOWS TO THE JEWS!" By Brother Nathanael Kapner Copyright © 2008 All Articles May Be Reproduced Only With Authorship of Br Nathanael Kapner & Link To Real Jew News @ www.realjewnews.com/ JEWS DEMAND APOLOGIES from the “goys.” But never once do the Jews apologize for their own crimes that they try to hide from the world. Jews were persecutors of the early Church - murdering thousands of Christians. Yet what pope has ever asked the Jews to “apologize” for murdering Christians? Jews do not “apologize” for anything. Jews make everybody else “apologize.” Now Pope Benedict, following in the footsteps of his brow-beaten predecessor, Pope John Paul, who apologized to the Jews for the so-called “wrongs inflicted on Jews by Christians,” has cowtowed to the Jews. How so? By caving into the demands of Rabbi David Rosen, the head of the Jewish Committee for Interreligious Consultations. Rabbi Rosen demanded that Pope Benedict excise references to the “blindness” and “darkness” of the Jews in a Good Friday prayer that calls for their conversion to Christianity. The prayer originally read: — “Almighty God, you do not refuse your mercy even to the perfidious Jews; Hear the prayers which we offer for their blindness so that they may acknowledge Christ and be delivered from their darkness.” — The apt adjective “perfidious” was unfortunately removed by Pope John in 1959. But the Jews were still not satisfied. So Pope Benedict bowed to their pressure last week and took out the words “blindness” and “darkness” of the Jews. Tsk tsk. See: “Pope Changes Prayer To Satisfy Jews” Here (All Links At www.realjewnews.com/?p=136) JEWS MAKE DEMANDS ON EVERYONE. AREN’T WE ALL SICK OF IT BY NOW? Catholics don’t dictate to Jews how they should word their Jewish prayers. Jews would certainly be offended if they did! But Jews are in the obnoxious habit of dictating to others how they should speak and pray about them. And if any are offended by their demands, they cry, “Anti Semite!” Aren’t we all sick of it by now? Here are 3 options of what we can say to the Jews: 1. “Hey Jews!” We like telling it like it is. Go back to your synagogues and leave us alone!” 2. “Hey Jews! Acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Messiah and your leaders’ crime of crucifying Him!” 3. “Hey Jews! Become Christians and give up your racist religion!” Now isn’t it about time we started making some demands of our own on the Jews? Huh? For More See: “Jews & The Guilt Of Deicide” @ www.realjewnews.com/?p=68 And: “Why The Jews Hate Jesus Christ” @ www.realjewnews.com/?p=34 Brother Nathanael...Street Evangelist! @ www.brothernathanael.com
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Hey bud, I've got a little secret to share with you... Jesus Christ was a Jew, and prayed to the God of the Jews. It is the God of the Jews whom he referred to as "Father".
Jesus Christ was a Jew http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm Whether one chooses to believe that Jesus was a Jew, or that Jesus existed at all, one is required to rely upon ancient texts coupled with faith and archaeological discoveries. I am in no way demeaning the veracity of scripture, only suggesting that many people (scholars) have made a variety of rational conclusions that are very different reading from the same scriptures. Over time I've decided to refrain from disputing religion based trivialities and focus on my own personal study. This makes more sense to me because the scriptures are multi-layered evidences that often times (most) are self validating, and require a lot of time to dig them out. I appreciate the fact that others study the scriptures even when I might not draw the same conclusions. Some people are interested in promoting an agenda through religious interpretations of scripture that are blatant fraud. I think a good example of this is the claim made by the Roman Church that Peter is the foundation stone, ie., "Rock" upon which the Church stands. Any student of scripture "KNOWS" that Peter was a weak and impulsive man that denied Christ 3 times. The scripture used to make this claim is one where Jesus is alleged to have asked Peter who did Peter think Jesus was. Peter made a couple of stabs at identifying Jesus by stating what others had said. Finally, Jesus asked "whom do you say that I am, Peter" ? Peter answered, the son of God, the Messiah, to which Jesus responded "right, and upon this rock I will build my church". The true church is founded upon Christ, the Savior and Messiah, the ressurection, etc., ... but absolutely not upon Peter. Until one uses certain criteria/claims made in scripture, by the Almighty Creator Himself, like "good fruit comes from a good tree" and vice versa, claims that violate these principles are likely to be believed wrongly even though offered by a preacher, priest or even a Pope. History is overwhelmingly replete with sadistic murdering priests that were in many instances fashioned as a "shadow government". They controlled the people and the politicians of their day. When Jesus was crucified it was by order of the Pharisees through their puppet, Pilate. The Scriptures state that "there is nothing new under the sun". Today, we see Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc., [PUPPETS ALL], taking their marching orders from "neo-cons", the high priests of death, in a similar manner as their predecessors like Pilate. Lastly, many people simply repeat things that others have said like "God helps those who help themselves" ... which isn't scripture. I find that most often the most vehement disputations are asserted by the least knowledgeable. When we consider the possibility that we (the masses) have been manipulated like cattle for millenium by a collusion of forces, we would certainly include the priests, preachers and Popes, that have abused scriptures throughout recorded history to control us. Until we determine to run ourselves in the absence of the teachings of corrupted men, we have little chance of improving our lot. Strict adherence to Biblical teachings eliminates the temptations added to it by priests and offers simple guidance towards a happy and contented lifestyle.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
Papist, are you? You forgot to spell it JOOOOOS. There is a big difference between Zionist Likud and Jewish. Ever met a Jew? I doubt it. Pathetic.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
Are you trying to imply that Jesus of Nazareth was not a Jew, and that his "Father in Heaven" was not the God of the Old Testament/Torah?
BroNathanael was born a Jew. He converted to Eastern Othodox Christian as an adult. He does not mean all Jews, he means Zionist elite. Why he does not clarify that in each and every thread I do not know. He was on RBN last week and stated that's what he meant when a Jewish caller questioned him. Although you may not agree with him or his style, he was quite rational and well spoken on this radio program last week.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! fyi: President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins
I demand both Jews and Christians shut up and learn to live with their neighbors. Just watched " Elizabeth the Golden Age ". (a movie) It seems we never learn. Why not practice your religion freely and leave others to their own devices.
I was hoping you'd post a rebuttle ATKHWDI.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx A jew doesn't stop being a jew just because they believe Christ is King.
It was literally impossible for those with soft-cyber chips in their head to imagine evil of the Korozhet.
2. “Hey Jews! Acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Messiah and your leaders’ crime of crucifying Him!” 3. “Hey Jews! Become Christians and give up your racist religion!” 1. Agreed. 2. None of my business. 3. That's the one thing jews got right, if in sometimes a ruthless and vindictive way.
It was literally impossible for those with soft-cyber chips in their head to imagine evil of the Korozhet.
Even the diciples were Jews, so that is true.
I'd believe my common sense and historical fact over what ever that link has to say.
Israelites aren't Jews.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
I said all of that too. I was a most recalcitrant convert to truth too. My Catholic upbringing and indoctrination almost made me feel guilty to investigate for myself the Biblical facts. There are too many unknowns in my opinion for anyone to have all of the answers. Jesus was a Judahite, not a "JEW". His heavenly Father was the God of the Hebrews/Israelites, not the god of the Pharisees. The Pharisees were Babylonians, or in some cases Judahites converted to Babylonian religious beliefs/sun worship/baal. The Rabbis of today claim an unbroken line from the Pharisees ... Their beliefs come from the Babylonian Talmud. Read the Bible at John Chapter 8 ... keeping in mind that Jesus (God) doesn't have to spout rhetoric or hyperbole when he tells them "You are of your father the devil" [keeping in mind that he can't lie either].
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
Actually, Jesus of Nazareth was an Essene, which is of course a Jewish sect.
They're not "born again christians" either. The Israelites were most certainly followers of the Jewish religion. They most certainly ARE the people of the Torah.
The mantra never fails. Jus' sayin'.
It was literally impossible for those with soft-cyber chips in their head to imagine evil of the Korozhet.
Don't take this the wrong way, but you're wrong. The Israelites were not followers of the JEWISH religion. There are strict Torah Jews that do base their religion on the Old Testament, however most modern Jews are Talmudic Jews that base their religion upon the BABYLONIAN TALMUD. (Jesus called these beliefs the Traditions of the Elders or the Traditions of men ... and he further said in this regard "Your laws make my father's laws OF NO EFFECT.) There's no mention of a SYNAGOGUE in the Old Testament. (There is one in Psalms ... it's a mistranslation, otherwise there is no mention of any such thing as a synagogue.) Look in Zondervan's dictionary of Biblical terms under Synagogue to find that the Synagogue came into existence after the return from the "SECOND" captivity in BABYLON. The ten tribes that went into the first captivity (Assyria), NEVER RETURNED TO JERUSALEM, and many of them may very well be "BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS" ! My thoughts about this subject were similar to yours many years ago. I was wrong then and you are wrong now. (Don't fret it, most of modern Christendom is mistaken too.)
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
Pure speculation, that I wouldn't discount.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
My point is that no person described in the Old Testament was a "born again christian", as such a thing didn't exist until the 20th Century. And call the Israelites what you wish, but Jesus was not the King of Rome or King of Chistianity, he was the KING OF THE JEWS, in terms of his followers at least.
Here's something you might find interesting...
"Let us also pray for the Jews. So that God our Lord enlightens their hearts so that they recognize Jesus Christ savior of all men." The prayer also asks God that "all Israel be saved." ....... ...we are deeply troubled and disappointed that the framework and intention to petition God for Jews to accept Jesus as Lord was kept intact," ADL Director Abraham H. Foxman said in a statement. www.haaretz.com/hasen/spa ges/952188.html Last update - 18:39 07/02/2008 Vatican rejects criticism of new prayer for Jewish conversion By Adi Schwartz, Haaretz Correspondent Tags: Jews, ADL, Christianity The top Vatican cardinal in charge of relations with Jews on Thursday denied that a new prayer for their conversion was offensive and said Catholics had the right to pray as they wish. The Vatican had come under fire from Jewish groups in recent days for changing its Good Friday service to include a prayer urging God to let Jews "recognize Jesus Christ as savior of all men." Earlier this week, Pope Benedict ordered changes to a Latin prayer for Jews at traditionalist Good Friday services, deleting a reference to their "blindness" over Christ. Cardinal Walter Kasper spoke in an interview in a leading Italian newspaper a day after world Jewish leaders said the new prayer could set back inter- religious dialogue by decades. "We think that reasonably this prayer cannot be an obstacle to dialogue because it reflects the faith of the Church and, furthermore, Jews have prayers in their liturgical texts that we Catholics don't like," "I must say that I don't understand why Jews cannot accept that we can make use of our freedom to formulate our prayers," Kasper, a German, told the Corriere della Sera. "One must accept and respect differences," said the cardinal. In a separate interview with Vatican Radio, Kasper said: "The Holy Father wanted to say 'yes, Jesus Christ is the savior of all men, including the Jews'." He added: "But this does not mean we are embarking on a mission [to convert Jews]. We are giving witness to our faith." The Anti-Defamation League on Thursday called the revision to the prayer "cosmetic revisions," saying that the prayer is still "deeply troubling" because of its call to convert Jews. Apart from the deletion of the word "blindness," the new prayer - which has retained the name 'Prayer for Conversion of the Jews' - also excludes a former a phrase that asked God to "remove the veil from their hearts". Instead, the new prayer hopes that Jews will recognize Christ. According to an unofficial translation from Latin, the new prayer says in part: "Let us also pray for the Jews. So that God our Lord enlightens their hearts so that they recognize Jesus Christ savior of all men." The prayer also asks God that "all Israel be saved." Jewish groups had protested against the old prayer and had asked the Pope to change it. The groups complained last year when the Pope issued a decree allowing a wider use of the old-style Latin Mass and a missal, or prayer book, that was phased out after the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, which met from 1962 to 1965. "While we appreciate that some of the deprecatory language has been removed from a new version of the Good Friday prayer for the Conversion of Jews in the 1962 Roman Missal, we are deeply troubled and disappointed that the framework and intention to petition God for Jews to accept Jesus as Lord was kept intact," ADL Director Abraham H. Foxman said in a statement. "Alterations of language without change to the 1962 prayer's conversionary intent amount to cosmetic revisions, while retaining the most troubling aspect for Jews, namely the desire to end the distinctive Jewish way of life," adds the statement. In a letter to Pope Benedict in late January, the ADL said it worried the new prayer "would be devastating to the deepening relationship and dialogue between the Catholic Church and the Jewish people." Related articles: Pope nixes reference to Jews` `blindness` over Jesus in prayer Wiesenthal Center urges Vatican to quickly remove offensive prayer Vatican: We may drop revived prayer offensive to Jews
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" Someone should inform the pope that Jesus never existed and the Bible is a book of fables. Not that he'll ever learn....
The tone seems to be argumentative, and I don't have the need. To say that a born again Christian didn't exist until the 20th Century is to deny that Christians were baptized, prophetic, or tongue speaking from the time of Christ until sometime in the 20th Century. [Have it your way]. Jesus was the King of Israel, not Jews. The term Jew didn't exist in Jesus time. The Letter J didn't exist either ... Jesus was Yahshua. It seems to be a hard concept to grasp until you do. Hebrews are not Jews. Israelites are not Jews. Moses didn't lead any Jews out of Egypt, only Hebrews/Israelites.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
IIRC, the "king of the Jews" bit was supposed to be Roman heckling.
ESSENE CHRISTIANITY VERSUS PAULIANITY I haven't read this work yet, but let me say that if I have any trouble with the scriptures they are with Paul.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
Sorry to hear you believe that.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" Conventional wisdom: "INRI is an acronym of the Latin phrase IESVS·NAZARENVS·REX·IVDÆORVM, which translates to English as: 'Jesus the Nazarene, King of the Jews'."
The pope is trying to help zionists by looking like he's falling back on that old papal standby of knocking the jewish religion. Know why it always fails? I told you already. In any event, I am being kind by being candid here. If everyone was candid, no one would produce a solid reason to share your sorrow.
To say that a born again Christian didn't exist until the 20th Century is to deny that Christians were baptized, prophetic, or tongue speaking from the time of Christ until sometime in the 20th Century. [Have it your way]. A "born again christian" in the modern sense is what I was referring to. The "speaking of tongues" is certainly a sect related novelty, and from what I've seen of the practice, is certainly far removed from any sort of true understanding of what Jesus had to teach. Honestly, I don't give a whole lot of credence to modern day religions. Jesus was the King of Israel, not Jews. The term Jew didn't exist in Jesus time. The Letter J didn't exist either ... Jesus was Yahshua. The letters "G-O-D" didn't exist back then either, but that doesn't mean they didn't refer to the Creator in terms of God. The Scriptures were Jewish Scriptures, not Babylonian, Buddhist, or Hindu. What religion do you think the Hebrews practiced in the time of Jesus?
I have a book printed in 1908 that details the finding of a copper plate that was inside of a vase unearthed during some construction near Naples in 1810. It is described as the DEATH WARRANT OF JESUS CHRIST. (I scanned this page into my computer). It details the charges (several), one of which is "He claimed to be the King Of Israel" While the term Jew could apply to Judeans, or even people of the tribe of Judah, it wouldn't have any application to the other tribes of Israel.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
Your prior statement wasn't precise regarding "born again" ... so I interpreted it to mean some of the practices of various churches, and only mentioned those things because they were being practiced during Christ's lifetime, long before the 20th Century. The Scriptures were Hebrew, but whatever the Pharisees (direct ancestors of modern Jewry) practiced it was contrary to Jesus' teachings, and he let them know it. The letters "G-O-D" didn't exist back then either This will only open another can of worms but, the words el, yah, elohim, etc., did exist and in some cases mean "GODS" (plural). What religion do you think the Hebrews practiced in the time of Jesus? Who's buried in Grant's Tomb ? Honestly, I don't give a whole lot of credence to modern day religions. I give them none. Zero. Nada. Zilch. God is divine ... religion is a man made farce.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
The "Traditions of the Elders / Traditions of Men" that Jesus spoke of were at that time oral traditions passed down by word of mouth that were later codified in 500 AD. This is known as the Babylonian Talmud and is the Bible of Judaism.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
While I certainly agree that the Talmud is an integral part of modern day Judaism, the Bible of Judaism is the Tanakh
He supposedly said the Kingdom of Christ is not of this world.
You said you were once Catholic, IIRC. I don't see it. When was that?
I was baptised as an infant and attended Catholic School through 8th Grade. I became an altar boy when the mass was still done in latin. I would add that I didn't have any bad experiences with priests or nuns to cause a sour grapes reaction. I always felt that the Church hesitated to teach the Bible, we'd get two sentences of Bible and 2 hours of priestly interpretation. So much of the Catholic tradition is contrary to Biblical instruction that it amazes me more Catholics don't see it.
"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08
I DEBATED whether to do it!! Then I couldn't keep my eyes open and went to bed. Looks like it started a storm.
President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins
I'd believe my common sense and historical fact over what ever that link has to say. Well, actually, I'd believe the Bible before I'd trust my own common sense. If you want historical fact..... Jesus was the Lion of the TRIBE OF JUDAH BLB (KJV) Rev 5 Rev 5:5, And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, ... www.blueletterbible.org/Rev/Rev005.html of Juda, [2455] Ioudas Lexicon Results for Ioudas (Strong's G2455) Greek for G2455 Root Word (Etymology) of Hebrew origin H3063 Outline of Biblical Usage Judah or Judas = "he shall be praised" 1) the fourth son of Jacob 2) an unknown ancestor of Christ 3) a man surnamed the Galilean, who at the time of the census of Quirinus, excited the revolt in Galilee, Acts 5:37 4) a certain Jew of Damascus, Acts 9:11 5) a prophet surnamed Barsabas, of the church at Jerusalem, Acts 15:22,27,32 6) the apostle, Jn 14:22, who was surnamed Lebbaeus or Thaddaeus, and according to opinion wrote the Epistle of Jude. 7) the half-brother of Jesus, Mt. 13:55 8) Judas Iscariot, the apostle who betrayed Jesus root word: Lexicon Results for Yhuwdah (Strong's H3063) Hebrew for H3063 Judah = "praised" 1) the son of Jacob by Leah 2) the tribe descended from Judah the son of Jacob 3) the territory occupied by the tribe of Judah 4) the kingdom comprised of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin which occupied the southern part of Canaan after the nation split upon the death of Solomon 5) a Levite in Ezra's time 6) an overseer of Jerusalem in the time of Nehemiah 7) a Levite musician in the time of Nehemiah 8) a priest in the time of Nehemiah Jhn 8:31 ¶ Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, [then] are ye my disciples indeed; Jhn 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. Jhn 8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?..... those Jews [2453] Ioudaios Lexicon Results for Ioudaios (Strong's G2453) Greek for G2453 Root Word (Etymology) from G2448 (in the sense of G2455 as a country) Outline of Biblical Usage 1) Jewish, belonging to the Jewish nation 2) Jewish as respects to birth, origin, religion if they were Abraham's seed, why do they say they were never in bondage? Some say it is because they were from Esau and not Jacob. I recently read a website offering a well-researched theory that the Hyskos kings that ruled over the Israelites in Egypt, before they were driven out, and before "the king arose who knew not Joseph", were Edomites. That could explain why they were A.'s seed but never in bondage. "Edomites, Phoenicians, Canaanites, Jews. The Jewish Encyclopedia tells us that "Edom is in Modern Jewry". This witness from the 1905 edition records the connection between modern day Jews and the ... www.biblebelievers.org.au/edomites.htm " : "....Canaanite, Khazar and Edomite are all names that accurately refer to the majority of people who call themselves "Jews." The name Jew originally meant a resident of Judea regardless of religion or race, and has long since lost any association with a true Judahite. Jesus made this clear in Revelation 2:9, "I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not but are a synagogue of Satan." And 3:9, "I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie; indeed I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you"......."] Jhn 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Jhn 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. Jhn 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. www.blueletterbible.org/Jhn/Jhn008.html Est 8:17 And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them. President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins
note to myself "Edomites, Phoenicians, Canaanites, Jews. The Jewish Encyclopedia tells us that "Edom is in Modern Jewry". This witness from the 1905 edition records the connection between modern day Jews and the ... http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/edomites.htm " : just starting to read that little gem. added some material ....excerpt with my comments....connecting the dots "....The Jewish Encyclopedia tells us that "Edom is in Modern Jewry". This witness from the 1905 edition records the connection between modern day Jews and the race of Edom: "Some anthropologists are inclined to associate the racial origins of the Jews, not with the Semites, whose language they adopted, but with the Armenians and Hittites of Mesopotamia, whose broad skulls and curved noses they appear to have inherited (Vol. X, p. 284). Thus Esau/Edom was now absorbed into the Canaanite people by means of his Hittite and Hivite wives. According to Strong's Concordance the word Canaan means "trader or merchant" [NOTE: Corp USA's "Law" is Merchant Marine and not common law. Furthermore, we have this to look forward to (substitute "merchant" for "Canaanite") .....and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts. http://www.blueletterbible.org/Zec/Zec014.html#21 ] and the Phoenicians, as Canaanites, are derived from Ham's incestuous relationship with Naamah the sister of Tubalcain, the wife Noah took with him in the Ark (Genesis 9:18-27; 10:6, 15-19). Owing to the intermarriage of their forefathers with Canaanites, there were probably few Israelites without Phoenician, that is, Serpent's seed blood in their veins. Judges 3:5-6, "The children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites, Hittites, and Amorites, and Perizzites, and Hivites, and Jebusites: and they took their daughters to be their wives, and gave their daughters to their sons, and served their gods". The Jews claimed to be the children of Abraham however that they were not true children of Abraham is certain when they say that they were never in bondage (John 8:32-33). "Phoenician" is a Greek word connoting "palm tree" and as such does not appear in the Old Testament where the locals call themselves "Canaanites." The name Kennan is preserved on a coin of Laodicea, of the time of Antiochus Epiphanes, whereon Laodicea is styled, "a mother city in Canaan." The Phoenicians or Canaanites were the most powerful of all tribes in Palestine at the time of its invasion by Joshua. In speaking of their own territory as it was before the conquest the Israelites called it, "the land of Canaan." After the conquest the tendency developed to call only the coastal strip and the Jordan Valley the land of Canaan. As late as the second century AD the descendants of the Carthaginians in North Africa called themselves Canaanites. The term "Canaanite" came to denote the members of a Jewish sect who was a zelot or fanatic (Matthew 10:4). The Phoenicians were the great maritime and commercial people of the ancient world, and pre-eminent in colonization. The Romans transcribed the Greek "phoenix" [Note: the phoenix is a fixture in Judeo-Masonic symbolism and in CorpUSA's creation of the US Seal, and other things] to "poenus", thus calling the emigres to Carthage "punic." Augustine of Hippo stated that the peasants in his part of Africa, if asked their race, would answer, in Punic or Phoenician, "Canaanites." In Hebrew "canaan" means, "merchant" or "trafficer," "to bend the knee," "bring down low," "humiliate" or "vanquish." Genesis 10:18, "the families of the Canaanites (would be scattered, vanquished, or) spread abroad". [Note: is this what Jesus meant when He said "He who is not with me, SCATTERS ABROAD"??? Note how this is in direct conflict with GWBush, who has said "Those who are not with us, are with the terrorists".] Canaanite, Khazar and Edomite are all names that accurately refer to the majority of people who call themselves "Jews." The name Jew originally meant a resident of Judea regardless of religion or race, ......." "In the ritual of exhaltation, the name of the Great Architect of the Universe " [NOTE: of Judeo-Freemasonry fame, George Washington often using that term] is revealed as JAH-BUL-ON." JAH represents Jahweh, the God of the Hebrews. BUL is Baal, the ancient Canaanite fertility god with "licentious rites of imitative magic." ON is Osiris, the ancient Egyptian god of the underworld. The Canaanite political parties included the Pharisees, Sadducees, Zealots, Essenes, Assassins, Herodians and Scribes. They were also divided into the Amorites, Hittites, Moabites, Midinites, Philistines, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, Sepharvaims, Perizzites and affiliated tribes. Later the Edomites (descended from Esau) intermarried with the Turks and became known as the Chazars who eventually occupied [present- day] Israel. Eustace Mullins, The Curse of Canaan, p. 22 (1987). The last will and testament of Canaan read: "Love one another, love robbery, love lewdness, hate your masters, and do not speak the truth." The Babylonian Talmud says: "Five things did Canaan charge his sons: love one another, love robbery, love lewdness, hate your masters, and do not speak the truth." These five points have been the modus operadi of the Canaanites for three thousand years. "the Will of Canaan today remains the operating instructions of the Canaanite heirs, who presently control the World Order. At the same time, it remains unknown to the peoples whom the Canaanites continue to rob, enslave, and massacre." The instructions are a command to commit genocide against the people of Shem (Genesis 27:39-41). ......" "....It was a member of the Edomite progeny who first sought to kill our Lord. Matthew 2:16 records how Herod the Idumean (Edomite) had all the Israelite children two years and younger slain that in so doing he might also kill the baby Messiah. Jesus would not live in Judea, "for fear of the Jews" (John 7:1). Luke 11:14, "Jesus was driving out a demon that was mute. When the demon left, the man who had been mute spoke, and the crowd was amazed." The Pharisees accused Jesus of casting out demons by the prince of demons, Beelzebub. Baalzebub, "lord of the flies", was the Philistine god of Accaron (Ekron), 25 miles west of Jerusalem. King Ahaziah attempted to consult its oracle in his last illness (II Kings 1:2). Beelzeboul and Beezebou preserve the name of an old Canaanite god, meaning "Baal, the Prince" or "Baal of the Exalted Abode." Joseph A. Fitzmyer, The Gospel According to Luke (X-XXIV), p. 920. When they said of Jesus that "an unclean spirit is within him. Jesus said: I tell you solemnly, all men's sins will be forgiven, all their blasphemies; but let anyone blaspheme against the Holy Spirit and he will never have forgiveness; he is guilty of an eternal sin" (Mark 3:28-30). Grolier's Academic American Encyclopedia tells us that the Mongols were a people who "For nearly two centuries . . . raided, invaded, conquered, and destroyed many more highly developed countries and peoples." Of the Khazars we read: "The Khazars, a Turkic people, created a commercial and political empire that dominated substantial parts of South Russia during much of the 7th through 10th centuries. During the 8th century the Khazar aristocracy and the kagan (king) were converted to Judaism . . . The Khazars controlled many of the trade routes to the Orient." The synagogue of Satan has perpetuated the traits of their forebears by maintaining control of trade which is one of the methods they use to continue in their quest to overthrow "more highly developed countries and peoples". That this group of people is genetically linked to the Khazars and Mongols is well-proven and even admitted by Jews themselves. Ashkenazim Jew Arthur Koestler, The Thirteenth Tribe Random House, Inc. (1976) gives abundant proof of this. The 1925 edition of The Jewish Encyclopedia (Vol. 15, p. 292) has this to say about the Khazars: "CHAZARS: a people of Turkish origin whose life and history is interwoven with the very beginnings of the history of the Jews in Russia." Before it became politically incorrect to discuss such things, the 1952 edition of the American People's Encyclopedia says of the Khazar/Mongol/Turk connection to the Jews: "In the year 740 the Khazars were officially converted to Judaism. A century later they were cursed by the incoming Slavic-speaking people and scattered over central Europe where they were known as Jews". Television programming such as Leave it to Beaver, Father Knows Best, and others which showed Christian families as loving, caring people led by the man of the house have been replaced by shows such as Fox's Married . . . with Children and the neo-feminist Who's the Boss? Such shows feature dysfunctional families led by women, with children who are disrespectful and disobedient. The role of the father has been relegated to the trash heap as something of the past, no longer needed for the 21st century. Instead of "Father Knows Best," now it's Father is a Complete and Utter Moron, with all thanks due to the Jewish media moguls who write, direct, produce and star in and market these abominable productions. Indeed, the synagogue of satan is hard at work discrediting and defaming the white Christians of this land and worldwide. It is interesting to note that the word 'mogul' which we used above to describe this people is defined by the American Heritage Dictionary as: "2. A Mongol or Mongolian. 3. mogul. A very rich or powerful person; a magnate." The very word which has come to mean someone with vast wealth and power originally meant someone of the Mongol tribes of Asia. Interestingly enough, those people today who possess the wealth and power are direct descendants of the Mongolian peoples, who later mixed with the Khazars, a branch of the Turks. The Khazars are Serpent's seed who converted to Judaism in AD740. The Maccabean leadership was replaced by the descendants of traditional enemies of the Jewish people, namely the converted Edomites, Herod and his family. The Ashkenazim developed the idea of Political Zionism. The Sephardim were forced out of Spain after the inaguuration of the inquisition in 1840. The name "Sephard" is derived from a city in Asia Minor, where exiles from Jerusalem settled after the destruction of the first temple in 586BC (Obadiah 20). They speak Ladino, a mixture of Spanish and Hebrew and settled in Spain, Portugal, the Eastern Mediterranean, Italy, the Balkans, Salonica and Macedonia. In Holland, where so many of the better off and the intelligentsia had fled, "the phoenix was adopted as the symbol of the elite Sephardic Jews, representing their rise from the ashes of the inquisition." On the front of the Great Seal the eagle has a small tuft at the back of the head. This indicates a hybrid combination of an eagle and the mythical phoenix. The New York Excelsior coin of 1787 shows a thin, long-necked, crested profile of the phoenix. The phoenix was one of the most familiar symbols of both the Egyptian and Atlantean cultures. It serves primarily as a symbol of Atlantis reborn in America. By 1600, the Dutch manned 1,000 ships, and were the world's leading power in maritime commerce. In 1609 the great Bank of Amsterdam was established, an event which probably should be considered as "ground zero" for the modern Western financial system. Deposits were guaranteed by the government. The bank's solvency was unrivalled, a welcome development after the plethora of debased and varying monetary units which had characterized the sixteenth century economy. The Bank's florin became the standard unit of European currency. Checks could be written against bank accounts. Sephardic resources and expertise certainly played a role in forming this great bank, as they did later in the seventeenth century when a group of Dutch financiers, many of them conversos, agreed to hold British bonds in return for the ability to operate a bank similar to the Bank of Amsterdam. This second great European bank, the Bank of England, was thus formed in 1694. In both banks, Sephardic investments were significant, but not exclusive. Above all, the Banks were obviously sponsored by national regimes and Christian upper-classes, which benefitted greatly. In 1779 Herz married "the young and dazzling" Henrietta de Lemos, daughter of a physician of Sephardic discent. Their home became "a center of Berlin high society" but Mendelssohn died before "the salon of the tragic muse stood in full bloom" Antelmann, Mendelsohn, the head of Jewish Illuminism (Haskala), p. 349. Mendelssohn cooperated with Weishaupt and other leaders of secret societies. Lady Queenborough, Occult Theocracy, p.185 (1933). Mendelssohn trained disciples for the French Revolution. Antelman, p. 72. On Yom Kippur Eve, 1779, Washington's soldiers, unpaid for months, were at a point of mutiny before a battle: "At last a desperate Washington sent a messanger on horseback through the night to Philadelphia with instructions to obtain, from Haym Salomon, a loan of $400,000, an enormous sum in those days, to pay and provision his troops. The messenger found Salomon in the synagogue, and a hasty whispered conference took place. Salomon rose and quickly moved about the synagogue, collecting certain friends. A small group left together, and that night the money was raised. Did Haym Salomon himself contribute $240,000 of the money? So the legend, perpetuated in many accounts, insists." [Endnote 2238: Stephen Birmingham, The Grandees, p. 152-153 (1971). Haym Salomon was in Philadelphia. Ibid. p. 145. He was a member of two Sephardic congregations (Shearith Israel in New York and later Mikveh Israel in Philidelphia). Ibid. p. 147-148. A planned massing of French and Spanish troops in Mexico was stopped when the Czar of Russia dispatched two fleets to the US. James Rothschild was left without his anticipated empire in Mexico: "Because of these good offices on behalf of the union, the Czar was later murdered by Rothschild agents, and Russia was condemned to be turned over to the atrocities of the demonic Canaanite revolutionaries" Eustace Mullins, The Curse of Canaan, p. 158 (1987). The Baruch family was one of the great Sephardic families of New York. Our Crowd, p. 42 (1967). Class differences were an integral part of this new Feudal system. When the call went out to Jews all around the globe to come to Israel to help establish the country, some of the first to arrive were Jews of African and Arabic origins who are referred to as Sephardic Jews. In later years, as more of the Ashkenazic Jews (of European stock) arrived, many Sephardic Jews, who had served as Israel's pioneers, were forced to give up their homes to the Ashkenazim who consider themselves to be superior to those of Moroccan or Ethiopian heritage. Explosive new evidence has come to light - in part, from dozens of reopened graves - suggesting that the sort of mass atrocities Zionist propaganda has blamed on Germany since the 1940s were, in reality, planned and perpetrated, not by any of Europe's nationalist leaders, but by the government of Israel. Thousands of small children belonging to Sephardic (Oriental) Jewish immigrants were seized - often wrenched from the arms of their mothers - on arrival in the ministate in the 1950s and 1960s, a year-long investigation by international refugee administrators has reported. The children were bundled into trucks and driven off by armed guards. Some were subsequently used in inhuman medical experiments. Others were forcibly relocated and placed in the custody of "superior" European Jewish foster families. "It's a bombshell of a scandal and it has set Israeli society afire" said Jurgen Liedke, an International Red Cross refugee administrator who has returned recently from a stint in the Middle East. "At first the [Israeli] government just flatly denied the whole thing," he added. "But then a witness from their own ranks stood up and confessed. What he said was more shattering than any suicide bombing." The witness, identified as Ami Hovev, a former Israeli immigration inspector, told the influential Tel Aviv daily newspaper Yediot Ahronot that "hundreds, perhaps thousands" of children from immigrant Yemenite Jewish families were "taken away" by the authorities. Their parents never saw them again. Hovev, who also participated in a recent internal investigation into the fate of the kidnapped children, admitted that a "substantial number" of them were secretley consigned for "unmerciful" medical experiments and then buried in lime pits. "I know that they [Israeli physicians in state hospitals] conducted experiments on living [Sephardic] children, extracting phosphorus and bone marrow from the spinal cord," Hovev declared on Israeli TV. The scandals drew reactions of horror and apprehension from the ministate's neighbors. "At last we're seeing the real Israel," wrote Lebanese columnist Emanuel Khouri. "To think that a people capable of such crimes against humanity now also have atomic weapons is terrifying." The poor and often barely literate Sephardic Jewish immigrants from nations such as Yemen, whose young were seized, were told by Israeli officials that, under standing immigration regulations, it was necessary to hospitalize underage arrivals from the East briefly for "tests" and " examination." But once taken, the children never returned. All the families received was an official notice that their child had died in the hospital. Now, the Yemenite Jewish community, led by a militant rabbi of its own, is in revolt. Scores of graves dating back to the 1950s and 1960s have been recently dug up at their demand. "Most were found empty," Liedke said. The children supposedly buried in them had been entrusted, under false names, to European Jewish families who were, in the view of the Israeli government, "superior" to the children's own poverty-stricken parents. Although the scandal has generated banner headlines throughout the Middle East, in the United States, press coverage has been almost nil. (The Spotlight, April 1st 1996. * 300 Independence Ave SE., Washington, DC. 20003. USA). Thousands of unauthorised and often illegal experiments on small children and geriatric and psychiatric patients in Israeli hospitals were still being conducted as recently as 2001. See the film, The Ringworm Children......." whew...that goes along with something I was reading last night: ".....1952 Israeli Prime Minister, David Ben-Gurion oversees a project in which a generation of Sephardic Jews in Israel are weeded out from their Ashkenazi counterparts at school and, to avoid suspicion by the parents, these Sephardic children are then taken on, “school trips.” On these supposed, “trips,” they actually receive a radiation treatment, purportedly for ringworm infection. At this time, the permitted maximum x-ray dose was 0.5 rad, yet these children received 350 rad, directly to their heads. As a result at least 6,000 die shortly afterwards, with those remaining developing severe conditions such as cancers, epilepsy, and psychosis. Those that are still alive today, and many of their children and grandchildren, are stricken with genetic diseases and malignant tumours. This is an attempt to genocide the Sephardic Jews who are an underclass in Israel and even referred to by many Ashkenazi Jews, as “niggers.” On April 23rd, during a debate on immigration law, Congressman John Rankin makes the following statement to the house on the subject of the Jews, which is recorded in the Congressional Record, “They whine about discrimination. Do you know who is being discriminated against? The white Christian people of America, the ones who created this nation... Communism is racial. A racial minority seized control in Russia and in all her satellite countries, such as Poland, Czechoslovakia, and many other countries I could name. They have been run out of practically every country in Europe in the years gone by, and if they keep stirring race trouble in this country and trying to force their Communistic program on the Christian people of America, there is no telling what will happen to them here.” ......" The Synagogue of Satan 1949-1973 http://www.iamthewitness.com/boo...ue.of.Satan/1949-1973.htm The Hyksos, Kings of Egypt and the land of Edom This document sets forth the theory that the Edomites were the ancient Hyksos who invaded Egypt. If you are interested in investigating such a theory, we ask that you extend us the courtesy of starting at the beginning of the document, in order to follow our line of reasoning. Please note that this document has been split into fifteen web pages and comprises over 30,000 words. It was first published in 1962 under the title “Whence Came the Hyksos, Kings of Egypt” and has been revised and updated for publication on this website. http://www.nabataea.net/edomch1.html BLB (KJV) Psa 83 Psa 83:4, They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from [being] a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. ... http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Psa/Psa083.html#4 / http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Psa/83/4.html .....and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite [MERCHANT] in the house of the LORD of hosts. http://www.blueletterbible.org/Zec/Zec014.html#21 ===================================== "....This brief identifies the chains with which they, the Merchants of Venice, their direct descendants and their lackeys, have used to make, we the people of North America into debt slaves. The Merchants of Venice bastardized the many courts of Europe during the Middle Ages so as to effect their continued control, which they had established during the period after the collapse of the Roman Empire, up to the Dark Ages and through the Middle Ages period. In 1776 (as indicated on the symbolic pyramid on the Federal Reserve $1.00 note), the continuation of their control was revealed as the Illuminati. This was the grand organization (or, re-organization, as they would have us believe) of the Masonic Lodge. The direct effect on us was their influence in the various mixings of the Law of the Sea with the Law of the Land in the British Limited Monarchy system. The situation is as a frog immersed in cold water brought slowly to a boil; the poor creature doesn't recognize the temperature change and cooks unaware. In the latter half of another webpage I have posted on the internet, I explain how the British Monarchy has exchanged the Anglo-Saxon Common Law, based solely upon God's Law - the Golden Rule - 'Do not unto others as you would not have them do unto you', for British (so-called) Common Law, a form of Roman Civil Law. Find it here: Treason The "Founding Fathers" of the USA were all Masons, a commonly known fact. A recent revelation shows that the Constitution of the USA is "Ultra Vires" because it was never ratified -- by either the Committee of The States, or, more appropriately, by the People. Those signing as "witness" after Article VII were members of a committee to draft the Constitution. Witnessing would be the procedure to show unanimous approval of the draft by the committee members involved. The next step should have been "approval" by the Committee of the States, the representative organization of the States mandated in the Articles of Confederation, Section 5 (AD1777). The final step should have been a "ratification" vote by the eligible voters in all the States concerned. There is no evidence that the latter two steps ever took place, thus making the present Constitution of the USA an unratified draft. Instead, it was only ratified by the corporate officers (Legislatures) of the incorporated States. Americans have been deceived into believing that those they elect into State legislatures and Congress are 'representatives' of the people. They are only 'representatives' of that portion of the deck (voting district) of the make-believe ship - corporate body politic for which they become corporate officers. Their total allegiance is to the 'captain' - governor of the make-believe ship. The Protocols of Zion, the gameplan of the Illuminati and their One World Government movement was apparently brought to public attention as early as 1785. In that program, the plans were set forth to thwart nationalism and common law societies by many devious ways, including the use of Masonry. Were George Washington and his close associates -- all Masons -- involved in the plan to scuttle the Union and the Common Law society destined for the People of North America? It is quite obvious that the Government of Canada has been using similar tactics to enslave the people of Canada; and, to turn over this country's raw materials to the Overlords who hold the economic strings which control it. The BNA Act of 1867 did not confederate Canada. It only combined four British colonies into one colony, the Dominion (Colony) of Canada. The government was a dictatorship, a Governor General and Council (Canada's Parliament). The status of Canada was similar to that of a ship of the British Admiralty. The status of the people of Canada was similar to sailors on a ship of the British Admiralty; not that of an English freeman. In 1931, the Statute of Westminster effectively decommissioned the colonies of the British Empire just as they would decommission outdated ships of the Admiralty. Canada was taken over by a usurper clique of financial barons (with Rothchild empire connections and allegiances) at that time, supposedly under the "right of salvage": and, no change has taken place since then. . . . . At the time of writing of this document, the author was obviously unaware of the status of "US citizen". As originally conceived, the States were independent countries tied together by a pact or treaty in which certain sovereign states rights were given over to a federal government; first in the Articles of Confederation, and then more succinctly in the Constitution of the USA. Each person born within a State or naturalized in a State was a citizen of that State; and then by the "commonality clause" of the Constitution, a citizen of the other States -- a citizen of the USA. For eminent domain purposes, so that the Federal Government could purchase land (Louisiana Purchase and Alaska Purchase) and enter into international treaties, a piece of land (a Federal State) was provided for in the Constitution (a necessity arising out of the rules governing eminent domain). Since the Federal Government was not given any Saxon Common Law jurisdiction in the Constitution (whether this was by oversight or by designing scheme, considering later circumstance, remains for conjecture) -- but only Maritime jurisdiction, the people within such a federal state (Washington, DC) come under Maritime law. In legal terms, United States only means the District of Columbia, some territories, and navy bases. The United States of America is the combined 50 States. The 14th Amendment to the US Constitution was supposedly inserted to give the black slaves citizenship which was denied to them by the States; but, in fact, what the 14th Amendment did was just transfer ownership from the private slave owners to the US Federal Government. It seems that the schemers have multi-layered the traps to ensnare the unwary People into Admiralty jurisdiction. Beyond what the author has revealed in his research within this paper, later research shows other methods. The result would be that one argument would clip one strand of the noose; but, two or three others would still be fatal in and before a Court of Admiralty. For example: Through interpretations of the Fourteenth Amendment and the Social Security Act (the act of applying for and receiving a Social Security Number being the binder of the contract), a USA citizen also becomes a US citizen. The former has Common Law RIGHTS, the latter has Maritime PRIVILEGE. The author adequately covers the differences in Common Law and Maritime Law. The former citizenship you were born or "naturalized" into; the latter, you were hoodwinked into. In the USA, you have the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). You should become "very" familiar with UCC 1-207; as well as UCC 1-103.6. Therein lies your protection and recourse when you are subject to any issue that falls into Admiralty jurisdiction on land - that is, unless the judge, whom you confront, decides that it is for the 'good' of the ship - the body politic that he invoke the 'notwithstanding clause' and disregard even this protection clause. END Links to Further Information on this Topic How the Crown of Great Britain and the Vatican have maintained a claimed ownership of North America ever since its discovery by the several European nations. ......" http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cmlaw13.htm Gen 25:23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations [are] in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and [the one] people shall be stronger than [the other] people; and the elder shall serve the younger. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Gen/25/23.html Gen 15:12 ¶ And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him. Gen 15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land [that is] not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; Gen 15:14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they "come out" with great substance. ["substance" see Micah 4:13] http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen015.html#14 "seed" see Galatians 3:16-29. www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gal/Gal003.html#29 Act 7:7 And the nation to whom they shall be in bondage will I judge, said God: and after that shall they "come forth", and serve me in this [THAT] place. II Samuel 7:10 Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime, http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2Sa/2Sa007.html#10 finished.
President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest1. “Hey Jews!” We like telling it like it is. Go back to your synagogues and leave us alone!”
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#2. To: FormerLurker (#1)
Hey bud, I've got a little secret to share with you ...
#3. To: BroNathanael (#0)
#4. To: noone222 (#2)
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#5. To: Mekons4 (#3)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#6. To: FormerLurker (#1)
Jesus Christ was a Jew,
#7. To: BroNathanael (#0)
" Now isn’t it about time we started making some demands "
#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#9. To: FormerLurker (#1)
Hey bud, I've got a little secret to share with you...
#10. To: BroNathanael (#0)
1. “Hey Jews!” We like telling it like it is. Go back to your synagogues and leave us alone!”
#11. To: Tauzero (#9)
A jew doesn't stop being a jew just because they believe Christ is King.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)
www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm [not]
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#13. To: FormerLurker (#4)
#14. To: FormerLurker (#12)
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I'd believe my common sense and historical fact over what ever that link has to say.
#15. To: noone222 (#14)
Jesus was a Judahite, not a "JEW".
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#16. To: noone222 (#13)
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Israelites aren't Jews
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#17. To: FormerLurker (#11)
#18. To: FormerLurker (#16)
They're not "born again christians" either. The Israelites were most certainly followers of the Jewish religion. They most certainly ARE the people of the Torah.
#19. To: FormerLurker (#15)
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Actually, Jesus of Nazareth was an Essene
#20. To: noone222 (#18)
The ten tribes that went into the first captivity (Assyria), NEVER RETURNED TO JERUSALEM, and many of them may very well be "BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS" !
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#21. To: noone222 (#19)
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#22. To: BroNathanael, all (#0)
According to an unofficial translation from Latin, the new prayer says in part:
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#23. To: Artisan (#22)
#24. To: FormerLurker (#20)
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(1). My point is that no person described in the Old Testament was a "born again christian", as such a thing didn't exist until the 20th Century.
#25. To: noone222 (#24)
#26. To: FormerLurker (#21)
Here's something you might find interesting...
#27. To: nobody (#23)
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#28. To: noone222 (#24)
The term Jew didn't exist in Jesus time.
#29. To: Artisan (#27)
#30. To: noone222 (#24)
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#31. To: nobody (#28)
#32. To: FormerLurker (#30)
A "born again christian" in the modern sense is what I was referring to. The "speaking of tongues" is certainly a sect related novelty, and from what I've seen of the practice, is certainly far removed from any sort of true understanding of what Jesus had to teach.
#33. To: FormerLurker (#30)
The Scriptures were Jewish Scriptures, not Babylonian, Buddhist, or Hindu.
#34. To: noone222 (#33)
This is known as the Babylonian Talmud and is the Bible of Judaism.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#35. To: noone222 (#31)
He claimed to be the King Of Israel
#36. To: noone222 (#33)
#37. To: nobody (#36)
#38. To: IndieTX (#8)
I was hoping you'd post a rebuttle ATKHWDI.
#39. To: FormerLurker, IndieTX (#12)
www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm [not]
#40. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#39)
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