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Title: THIS JUST IN: Mitt Romney To Quit Presidential Race
Source: Time
URL Source: http://thepage.time.com/
Published: Feb 7, 2008
Author: Time
Post Date: 2008-02-07 12:27:23 by Brian S
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Views: 1292
Comments: 85

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#45. To: Brian S, ALL (#0)

Transcript of Romney’s Speech Withdrawing From the Race

Governor Romney’s Address to the Conservative Political Action Committee – February 7, 2008

I want to begin by saying thank you. It’s great to be with you again. And I look forward to joining with you many more times in the future.

Last year, CPAC gave me the sendoff I needed. I was in single digits in the polls and I was facing household Republican names. As of today, more than 4 million people have given me their vote for president, less than Senator McCain’s 4.7 million, but quite a statement nonetheless. 11 states have given me their nod, compared to his 13. Of course, because size does matter, he’s doing quite a bit better with his number of delegates.

To all of you, thank you for caring enough about the future of America to show up, stand up and speak up for conservative principles.

As I said to you last year, conservative principles are needed now more than ever. We face a new generation of challenges, challenges which threaten our prosperity, our security and our future. I am convinced that unless America changes course, we will become the France of the 21st century—still a great nation, but no longer the leader of the world, no longer the superpower. And to me, that is unthinkable. Simon Peres, in a visit to Boston, was asked what he thought about the war in Iraq. “First,” he said, “I must put something in context. America is unique in the history of the world. In the history of the world, whenever there has been conflict, the nation that wins takes land from the nation that loses. One nation in history, and this during the last century, laid down hundreds of thousands of lives and took no land. No land from Germany, no land from Japan, no land from Korea. America is unique in the sacrifice it has made for liberty, for itself and for freedom loving people around the world.” The best ally peace has ever known, and will ever know, is a strong America!

And that is why we must rise to the occasion, as we have always done before, to confront the challenges ahead. Perhaps the most fundamental of these is the attack on the American culture.

Over the years, my business has taken me to many countries. I have been struck by the enormous differences in the wealth and well-being of people of different nations. I have read a number of scholarly explanations for the disparities. I found the most convincing was that written by David Landes, a professor emeritus from Harvard University. I presume he’s a liberal–I guess that’s redundant. His work traces the coming and going of great civilizations throughout history. After hundreds of pages of analysis, he concludes with this: If we learn anything from the history of economic development, it is that culture makes all the difference. Culture makes all the difference.

What is it about American culture that has led us to become the most powerful nation in the history of the world? We believe in hard work and education. We love opportunity: almost all of us are immigrants or descendants of immigrants who came here for opportunity—opportunity is in our DNA. Americans love God, and those who don’t have faith, typically believe in something greater than themselves—a “Purpose Driven Life.” And we sacrifice everything we have, even our lives, for our families, our freedoms and our country. The values and beliefs of the free American people are the source of our nation’s strength and they always will be!

The threat to our culture comes from within. The 1960’s welfare programs created a culture of poverty. Some think we won that battle when we reformed welfare, but the liberals haven’t given up. At every turn, they try to substitute government largesse for individual responsibility. They fight to strip work requirements from welfare, to put more people on Medicaid, and to remove more and more people from having to pay any income tax whatsoever. Dependency is death to initiative, risk-taking and opportunity. Dependency is a culture-killing drug—we have got to fight it like the poison it is!

The attack on faith and religion is no less relentless. And tolerance for pornography—even celebration of it—and sexual promiscuity, combined with the twisted incentives of government welfare programs have led to today’s grim realities: 68% of African American children are born out-of-wedlock, 45% of Hispanic children, and 25% of White children. How much harder it is for these children to succeed in school—and in life. A nation built on the principles of the founding fathers cannot long stand when its children are raised without fathers in the home.

The development of a child is enhanced by having a mother and father. Such a family is the ideal for the future of the child and for the strength of a nation. I wonder how it is that unelected judges, like some in my state of Massachusetts, are so unaware of this reality, so oblivious to the millennia of recorded history. It is time for the people of America to fortify marriage through constitutional amendment, so that liberal judges cannot continue to attack it!

Europe is facing a demographic disaster. That is the inevitable product of weakened faith in the Creator, failed families, disrespect for the sanctity of human life and eroded morality. Some reason that culture is merely an accessory to America’s vitality; we know that it is the source of our strength. And we are not dissuaded by the snickers and knowing glances when we stand up for family values, and morality, and culture. We will always be honored to stand on principle and to stand for principle.

The attack on our culture is not our sole challenge. We face economic competition unlike anything we have ever known before. China and Asia are emerging from centuries of poverty. Their people are plentiful, innovative, and ambitious. If we do not change course, Asia or China will pass us by as the economic superpower, just as we passed England and France during the last century. The prosperity and security of our children and grandchildren depend on us.

Our prosperity and security also depend on finally acting to become energy secure. Oil producing states like Russia and Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and Iran are siphoning over $400 billion per year from our economy—that’s almost what we spend annually for defense. It is past time for us to invest in energy technology, nuclear power, clean coal, liquid coal, renewable sources and energy efficiency. America must never be held hostage by the likes of Putin, Chavez, and Ahmendinejad.

And our economy is also burdened by the inexorable ramping of government spending. Don’t focus on the pork alone—even though it is indeed irritating and shameful. Look at the entitlements. `They make up 60% of federal spending today. By the end of the next President’s second term, they will total 70%. Any conservative plan for the future has to include entitlement reform that solves the problem, not just acknowledges it.

Most politicians don’t seem to understand the connection between our ability to compete and our national wealth, and the wealth of our families. They act as if money just happens–that it’s just there. But every dollar represents a good or service produced in the private sector. Depress the private sector and you depress the well-being of Americans.

That’s exactly what happens with high taxes, over-regulation, tort windfalls, mandates, and overfed, over-spending government. Did you see that today, government workers make more money than people who work in the private sector. Can you imagine what happens to an economy where the best opportunities are for bureaucrats?

It’s high time to lower taxes, including corporate taxes, to take a weed-whacker to government regulations, to reform entitlements, and to stand up to the increasingly voracious appetite of the unions in our government!

And finally, let’s consider the greatest challenge facing America—and facing the entire civilized world: the threat of violent, radical Jihad. In one wing of the world of Islam, there is a conviction that all governments should be destroyed and replaced by a religious caliphate. These Jihadists will battle any form of democracy—to them, democracy is blasphemous for it says that citizens, not God shape the law. They find the idea of human equality to be offensive. They hate everything we believe about freedom just as we hate everything they believe about radical Jihad.

To battle this threat, we have sent the most courageous and brave soldiers in the world. But their numbers have been depleted by the Clinton years when troops were reduced by 500,000, when 80 ships were retired from the Navy, and when our human intelligence was slashed by 25%. We were told that we were getting a peace dividend. We got the dividend, but we didn’t get the peace. In the face of evil in radical Jihad and given the inevitable military ambitions of China, we must act to rebuild our military might. Raise military spending to 4% of our GDP, purchase the most modern armament, re-shape our fighting forces for the asymmetric demands we now face, and give the veterans the care they deserve!

Soon, the face of liberalism in America will have a new name. Whether it is Barack or Hillary, the result would be the same if they were to win the Presidency. The opponents of American culture would push the throttle, devising new justifications for judges to depart from the constitution. Economic neophytes would layer heavier and heavier burdens on employers and families, slowing our economy and opening the way for foreign competition to further erode our lead.

Even though we face an uphill fight, I know that many in this room are fully behind my campaign.” You are with me all the way to the convention. Fight on, just like Ronald Reagan did in 1976. But there is an important difference from 1976: today… we are a nation at war.

And Barack and Hillary have made their intentions clear regarding Iraq and the war on terror. They would retreat and declare defeat. And the consequence of that would be devastating. It would mean attacks on America, launched from safe havens that make Afghanistan under the Taliban look like child’s play. About this, I have no doubt.

I disagree with Senator McCain on a number of issues, as you know. But I agree with him on doing whatever it takes to be successful in Iraq, on finding and executing Osama bin Laden, and on eliminating Al Qaeda and terror. If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror.

This is not an easy decision for me. I hate to lose. My family, my friends and our supporters… many of you right here in this room… have given a great deal to get me where I have a shot at becoming President. If this were only about me, I would go on. But I entered this race because I love America, and because I love America, I feel I must now stand aside, for our party and for our country.

I will continue to stand for conservative principles; I will fight alongside you for all the things we believe in. And one of those things is that we cannot allow the next President of the United States to retreat in the face evil extremism!!

It is the common task of each generation—and the burden of liberty—to preserve this country, expand its freedoms and renew its spirit so that its noble past is prologue to its glorious future.

To this task… accepting this burden… we are all dedicated, and I firmly believe, by the providence of the Almighty, that we will succeed beyond our fondest hope. America must remain, as it has always been, the hope of the earth.

Thank you, and God bless America.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-07   13:07:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#20)

why would you vote for one of their selections in this totally rigged sham and lend it any legitimacy, Rupert?

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-07   13:08:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: TwentyTwelve, cynicom (#45)

I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror.

There you have it.

angle  posted on  2008-02-07   13:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: TwentyTwelve (#45)

After saying a few things that are true he returns to the "Official Disinformation Lyin'":

And finally, let’s consider the greatest challenge facing America—and facing the entire civilized world: the threat of violent, radical Jihad. In one wing of the world of Islam, there is a conviction that all governments should be destroyed and replaced by a religious caliphate. These Jihadists will battle any form of democracy—to them, democracy is blasphemous for it says that citizens, not God shape the law. They find the idea of human equality to be offensive. They hate everything we believe about freedom just as we hate everything they believe about radical Jihad.

"Cough, cough, bull, cough, sh-t, cough cough."

Al CIAda is a threat, but they don't want a caliphate.

Soon, the face of liberalism in America will have a new name. Whether it is Barack or Hillary, the result would be the same if they were to win the Presidency. The opponents of American culture would push the throttle, devising new justifications for judges to depart from the constitution. Economic neophytes would layer heavier and heavier burdens on employers and families, slowing our economy and opening the way for foreign competition to further erode our lead.

There is no substantial difference between Hitlery, Obam-bam, or McInsane, they are all three wholly owned whores who are in the business of betraying the Republic and serving their one world Plutocratic/Psychiatric masters.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-02-07   13:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: TwentyTwelve (#45)

Romney speaks all the right phrases but has not the character to take action and endorse Paul.

Just another politician. Have done with him.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-07   13:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: christine (#46)

Because Obama is slightly less likely than McCain to start a nuclear war.

If it were Obama or Hillary vs. Romney or Huckabee, I wouldn't bother. Politically, they're all cut from the same cloth. The difference with McCain is that on top of that, he's out of his mind.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-02-07   13:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Cynicom (#37)

hmmmmm.....

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-02-07   13:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#50)

They're all members of the same club. They're all puppets, with a ton of dirt on them. They'll do as they're told.

"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08

noone222  posted on  2008-02-07   13:26:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: noone222 (#52) (Edited)

I agree. They're all bought and paid for by the same people. But on top of that, McCain is fit for the looney bin.

So we can choose between a sane crook or an insane one. Isn't "choice" great?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-02-07   13:27:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#50)

If it were Obama or Hillary vs. Romney or Huckabee, I wouldn't bother. Politically, they're all cut from the same cloth. The difference with McCain is that on top of that, he's out of his mind.

Don't kid yourself Hitlery is every bit as nuts as McInsane, and if Obama wasn't a sociopath he would not have been allowed to get this far.

Hitlery just has better handlers and hides her insanity better, but the things that have seeped out through the information blockade suggest that she is every bit as vile, if not more so, than McInsane. Mary Caitlin Mahoney was whacked to protect her "image".

We are going to Preznit Hitlery shoved err, uh, up, oh no, down, that's right - down - our err, ummmm, yeah, our throats.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-02-07   13:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: christine, Rupert_Pupkin (#46)

I think I can answer that, b/c I'm considering it too in Nov; anything to keep McCain out of the WH.

However, the # of Dems showing up to vote in the primaries indicate they won't need my vote anyway.

In which case I will vote my conscience as I did in '04.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-02-07   13:28:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#53)

Think about it ... they're all crazy, fit for the looney bin.

"Give us liberty and give them death" ... noone222 1-10-08

noone222  posted on  2008-02-07   13:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: noone222 (#52)

They'll do as they're told.

Right on son...

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-07   13:31:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#29)

You'd think McCain would be the perfect candidate for FR and LP. On every single issue, he out-Bushes Bush.

For the life of me I don't get their angst over McCain. He's Bush on steroids regarding terrorism & open borders, so what's the bitch?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-07   13:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

He's not in favor of tax cuts and IS in favor of campaign finance reform. Plus, the base has NEVER gone along with Bush on open borders. This is perhaps their most passionate issue of all, being white guys who thought they had settled this back in the 19th century during several wars with the little brown ones.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-02-07   13:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

Not to sweat it. McCain will never be president, however he very might well be Sec of DoD for Hillary.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-07   13:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Sam Houston (#59)

He's not in favor of tax cuts and IS in favor of campaign finance reform. Plus, the base has NEVER gone along with Bush on open borders. This is perhaps their most passionate issue of all, being white guys who thought they had settled this back in the 19th century during several wars with the little brown ones.

That doesn't stop them from loving Bush to death, does it? Idiots.

Anyway, I think what really galls them about McCain is the one issue where he disagrees with the neocons in the WoT: the use of torture. Hannity and Coulter have said as much, I think. Isn't it ironic that they hate a despicable man for the one issue where he isn't despicable?

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-02-07   13:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Sam Houston (#59)

Gotcha ya' thanks. But come Nov. they'll line up like party lemmings and vote for McCain anyway. I want this to be rout, a simple trounce isn't enough to satisfy me.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-07   13:41:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Cynicom (#60)

McCain will never be president

I agree. The party establishment is allowing him his turn, a la Bob Dole.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-07   13:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#61)

despicable?

Someone said McCain was George on steroids, and deranged to boot.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-07   13:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Jethro Tull (#63)

The party establishment is allowing him his turn, a la Bob Dole.

The "system" has been putting the palace in order for some time for queen Hillary and no Goy schmuck is going to muck up the works.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-07   13:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Cynicom (#65)

This is a job for Palidan

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-07   14:00:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

For the life of me I don't get their angst over McCain. He's Bush on steroids regarding terrorism & open borders, so what's the bitch?

I think that maybe, just maybe, they have finally realized that they've been had.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-07   14:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Vitamin Z (#67)

I think that maybe, just maybe, they have finally realized that they've been had.

I think so too. This slop the Rs are passing off as politics isn't defensible except for the most die hard hacks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-07   14:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Jethro Tull (#68)

Have you seen the #s for the Democrat primary turnout?

The GOP is D-E-A-D

For a vote of conscience we have the Independent, Constitution Party and Write In.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-02-07   14:44:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Original_Intent (#28)

As I read through thread the phrase "not a freaking clue amongst them" seemed to suggest itself.

I normally don't peep in there much, but they do provide a good barometer for the state of the Republican party. Talk about a mess....and it's everything we former Buchananites warned them of when they opened the tent for the neocons.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-07   14:48:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: robin (#69)

Yes, it looks like 66% to 33%, Ds to Rs. A complete and total Bush rejection looms and I'm loving it.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-07   14:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Original_Intent (#43)

What can I say I'm just an old softy at heart.

I do fear for the poor dear with her shattered personality and schizophrenic mood swings.

I feel her pain.

Yes indeed. It would bring a tear to a glass eye.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-02-07   14:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Jethro Tull (#70)

As I read through thread the phrase "not a freaking clue amongst them" seemed to suggest itself.

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I normally don't peep in there much, but they do provide a good barometer for the state of the Republican party. Talk about a mess....and it's everything we former Buchananites warned them of when they opened the tent for the neocons.

NeoCon = Trotskyite in a 3-Piece Suit.

Free Republic = 1984

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-02-07   14:55:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

FReepers in meltdown. Bush has destroyed the GOP and "conservatives" - LOVE IT !!

That won't last long. RimJob's already making pro-McCain noises, so it won't be long before the purges of anti-McCain posters begin. And Limbaugh's whining like a little girl this morning about McCain not showing him proper respect, so as soon as Mad Mac throws him a bone he'll get back on board, likre he always does, the fat fraud. The sad fact is these Democrat/Republicans will keep voting Democrat/Republican until the country's completely f*cked. A good third party candidate could make a difference, but we haven't had one of those since pre-meltdown Ross Perot and right now I don't see any on the horizon, so I don't see much positive happening anytime soon.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BWS - Bush Worship Syndrome; a mental disorder that causes Iraq had WMDs and Saddam did 9/11 troofers to worship Bush no matter how much damage he does to conservatism, to the GOP, to the English language, or to the country. Rush "the doper" Limbaugh and Sean "the dope" Hannity are two examples of extreme cases.

Rich  posted on  2008-02-07   15:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Brian S (#0)

Good riddance to the Mormon apostate and his Jesus-pajamas.....

"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck

X-15  posted on  2008-02-07   15:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Jethro Tull (#71)

Yes, it looks like 66% to 33%, Ds to Rs. A complete and total Bush rejection looms and I'm loving it.

I take no comfort in it because it is engineered. Now we will get Queen Hitlery and if the Republic survives the next few years it will only be because enough people wake up to the fraud being perpetrated on them - and fight back.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-02-07   15:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Rich (#74)

That won't last long. RimJob's already making pro-McCain noises, so it won't be long before the purges of anti-McCain posters begin. And Limbaugh's whining like a little girl this morning about McCain not showing him proper respect, so as soon as Mad Mac throws him a bone he'll get back on board, likre he always does, the fat fraud.

Dead on accurate. The party will have a last dance on the deck of the Titanic before it goes under next November.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-07   15:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Original_Intent (#76)

This slow boil is killing me, so Hillary will be a positive in that she'll jack the heat up full. Maybe some froggies will get a clue before the full boil hits.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-07   15:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Jethro Tull (#78)

You call eight years of Bush a slow boil? It was my idea of scalding.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-02-07   17:02:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Rich (#74)

That won't last long. RimJob's already making pro-McCain noises, so it won't be long before the purges of anti-McCain posters begin. And Limbaugh's whining like a little girl this morning about McCain not showing him proper respect, so as soon as Mad Mac throws him a bone he'll get back on board, likre he always does, the fat fraud. The sad fact is these Democrat/Republicans will keep voting Democrat/Republican until the country's completely f*cked. A good third party candidate could make a difference, but we haven't had one of those since pre-meltdown Ross Perot and right now I don't see any on the horizon, so I don't see much positive happening anytime soon.

dead on post, Rich

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-07   22:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: christine, Rich (#80)

RJ's already making pro-McCain noises

Travis McGee was banned for accusing Tony Snow of being a CFR traitor during the days when McCain-Kennedy was being pushed. Beginning? RJ's always been on McCain's side. The M-Feingold laws may take him out someday, which will be a sad irony.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-07   22:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#79)

You call eight years of Bush a slow boil? It was my idea of scalding.

Total mass destruction.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-07   22:18:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: TwentyTwelve (#82)

You call eight years of Bush a slow boil? It was my idea of scalding.

All Shrub did was turn up the heat on different burners from Clinton and Poppy (Waco, Ruby Ridge). Clinton was pardoned for draft-dodging by Carter. Poppy was in the CIA.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-07   22:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: christine, Rich (#80)

And one of the first things the Clinton Administration did after was to award the contract to Perot's company EDS to computerize all of the SS records.

So while Perot made an interesting run, there are indications why he petered out at the end that are discouraging.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-02-07   22:42:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: TwentyTwelve (#45)

Can't help but laugh at this moronic mitty character.........'clear' intentions regarding Iraq by hilary? Puleeze.........all the bitching is that it is not clear at all.......that she has her nose up the liar in chief's arse regarding the war.

He started off half-way good in his speechifying, and then let the MIC take it to ruination.

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!

rowdee  posted on  2008-02-07   23:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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