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Title: Six Dead In Missouri City Hall Shooting; Two police officers and three city officials including the Mayor...
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0743157520080208
Published: Feb 8, 2008
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2008-02-08 00:30:55 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1018
Comments: 51

KIRKWOOD, Missouri (Reuters) - A gunman killed two police officers and three city officials on Thursday night when he stormed into a city council meeting in a suburb of St. Louis, police said.

The gunman, who was later shot dead by police, killed one police officer in the parking lot outside City Hall in Kirkwood and killed another inside the building.

He rushed into the council meeting and began shooting people, including council officials and Mayor Mike Swoboda, who suffered a gunshot wound to the head and was in critical condition, police said.

"He shot three other people who were attending the council meeting. They also are deceased," the St. Louis Post-Dispatch newspaper quoted Officer Tracy Panus as saying.

Two of the dead were council members and the other was an engineer, police said.

Witnesses said the gunman was a middle-aged local contractor who had feuded with the city council in the past and had twice been arrested for disrupting meetings in 2006.

Kirkwood is an upscale suburb around 15 miles southwest of St Louis.

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#21. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

I just looked at the mayor and council, and they appear to be a bunch of Republicans.

The town has an ordinance to regulate how long they have to dispose of a newborn litter of kittens so as not to exceed the three-cat rule.

As with many small, corporate governments they are probably a pain in the ass.

I see the mayor was elected in 1976, took an 8 year break between 84 and 92, and has served since.

Of course the news report is slanted, but if the shooter was a disruptive, childish, pain in the ass who wouldn't take no for an answer and wouldn't allow the council to conduct business when he wished to dominate the agenda, then I would have had little sympathy for him.

He could have done what we did when we found the Newport, DE town govt unsatisfactory-move out of town and let the rest of the residents have the govt they deserve.

I take no pleasure in this senseless act. Whatever the grievance it couldn't possibly warrant this violence.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-02-08   1:52:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21)

I looked up the website and their municipal codes, and found the below:

Sec. 449;1. Cruelty to animals.

No person shall overdrive, overload, drive when overloaded, ill-treat, torture, torment or unnecessarily or cruelly beat or needlessly mutilate or kill, or cause or procure to be over-driven, overloaded, driven when overloaded, ill-treated, tortured, tormented or unnecessarily or cruelly beaten, or needlessly mutilated or killed, any dumb animal. (Gen. Ords. 1959, § 52.35)

That sentence illustrates why I hate the way laws are written. It's like they just kept adding words to existing ordinances over time to end up with such confused trash. The subject of the sentence doesn't appear until the last two words!

The "three cat" rule seems to be ubiquitous. Where I live in Michigan they've got a three cat per domicile rule that I haven't figured out yet. I think it's in response to the "crazy cat lady" but I wonder who decided that three is the maximum amount. And there are other laws that cover the crazy cat lady that could be used, rather than arbitrarily setting limits. I suppose that cat fosterers must get some kind of license. One of the people we adopted two cats from had nine.

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#37. To: historian1944 (#29) (Edited)

Sec. 449;1. Cruelty to animals.

No person shall overdrive, overload, drive when overloaded, ill-treat, torture, torment or unnecessarily or cruelly beat or needlessly mutilate or kill, or cause or procure to be over-driven, overloaded, driven when overloaded, ill-treated, tortured, tormented or unnecessarily or cruelly beaten, or needlessly mutilated or killed, any dumb animal. (Gen. Ords. 1959, § 52.35)

That sentence illustrates why I hate the way laws are written. It's like they just kept adding words to existing ordinances over time to end up with such confused trash. The subject of the sentence doesn't appear until the last two words!

The "three cat" rule seems to be ubiquitous. Where I live in Michigan they've got a three cat per domicile rule that I haven't figured out yet. I think it's in response to the "crazy cat lady" but I wonder who decided that three is the maximum amount. And there are other laws that cover the crazy cat lady that could be used, rather than arbitrarily setting limits. I suppose that cat fosterers must get some kind of license. One of the people we adopted two cats from had nine.

The first ordinance seems to be a relic from a bygone era, back when it was deemed necessary to regulate by ordinance which had the right of way if a horse and a cow reached the crossroads at the same time.

I suspect the three-cat rule was settled by folks who know how much cat litter in a communal cat box is too much! (probably wimmen, heh heh)

Yeah, we have some "kat experts" and some "kat haters" here. One woman council member pushed through a leash law aimed at cats, and I brutalized her in my newspaper column at the time. I called it "the alligator leash law" because it didn't mention cats and supposedly applied to all animals kept in town, and it proved so embarrassing (I did my part) that they eventually repealed it. (Those who've ever tried to walk a cat understand)

My solution to katz peeing on folks' tomato plants was considerably bolder-I recommended using super quiet CB caps in a .22 rifle and bagging the carcasses up and tossing them where they'd never be found.

The sheer horror my "solution" caused cat lovers forced them to accept the point I was making-"If you really love Fluffy then you'll keep its furry little ass inside."

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