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Title: Six Dead In Missouri City Hall Shooting; Two police officers and three city officials including the Mayor...
Source: Reuters
URL Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0743157520080208
Published: Feb 8, 2008
Author: Reuters
Post Date: 2008-02-08 00:30:55 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1030
Comments: 51

KIRKWOOD, Missouri (Reuters) - A gunman killed two police officers and three city officials on Thursday night when he stormed into a city council meeting in a suburb of St. Louis, police said.

The gunman, who was later shot dead by police, killed one police officer in the parking lot outside City Hall in Kirkwood and killed another inside the building.

He rushed into the council meeting and began shooting people, including council officials and Mayor Mike Swoboda, who suffered a gunshot wound to the head and was in critical condition, police said.

"He shot three other people who were attending the council meeting. They also are deceased," the St. Louis Post-Dispatch newspaper quoted Officer Tracy Panus as saying.

Two of the dead were council members and the other was an engineer, police said.

Witnesses said the gunman was a middle-aged local contractor who had feuded with the city council in the past and had twice been arrested for disrupting meetings in 2006.

Kirkwood is an upscale suburb around 15 miles southwest of St Louis.

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#21. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

I just looked at the mayor and council, and they appear to be a bunch of Republicans.

The town has an ordinance to regulate how long they have to dispose of a newborn litter of kittens so as not to exceed the three-cat rule.

As with many small, corporate governments they are probably a pain in the ass.

I see the mayor was elected in 1976, took an 8 year break between 84 and 92, and has served since.

Of course the news report is slanted, but if the shooter was a disruptive, childish, pain in the ass who wouldn't take no for an answer and wouldn't allow the council to conduct business when he wished to dominate the agenda, then I would have had little sympathy for him.

He could have done what we did when we found the Newport, DE town govt unsatisfactory-move out of town and let the rest of the residents have the govt they deserve.

I take no pleasure in this senseless act. Whatever the grievance it couldn't possibly warrant this violence.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-02-08   1:52:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: HOUNDDAWG (#21) (Edited)

Whatever the grievance it couldn't possibly warrant this violence.

Do you think it's simply a matter of the local activities ? Are we to forget WACO and RUBY RIDGE ? Do government organs get a special waiver (immunity) from their deeds ? When it comes right down to it, WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS CATCHING UP TO DO !!!

It looks to me that many politicians aren't able to cope with the inherent power of their office in a respectable manner. When a citizen that might get tongue twisted or may stutter when speaking before a large audience is cut-off, asked to leave, laughed at or ignored, where is the redress ?

I've noticed that many small towns are now implementing "ordinances" that appear to be straight out of Agenda 21, and contrary to the way things had normally been.

The more intrusive the governing authorities become on all levels ... the more violence we will see. Cameras, check-points, bio-metrics, finger scanning the "kids", forced vaccinations, strip searches at the mall, dna samples taken at routine traffic stops ... gimme a break, this revolution is 50 years late.

noone222  posted on  2008-02-08   3:46:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: noone222 (#23)

Do you think it's simply a matter of the local activities ? Are we to forget WACO and RUBY RIDGE ? Do government organs get a special waiver (immunity) from their deeds ? When it comes right down to it, WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS CATCHING UP TO DO !!!

Well, I certainly agree in principle.

But, my reading of the article left me with the impression that this disgruntled contractor was "settling the score" for perceived wrongs at the local level. His theatrics and sophomoric insults directed toward the mayor, and sitting down on the floor after his alloted time had elapsed and forcing the police to remove him just reminds me of the grumpy, childish, "I want what I want when I want it" types that I've seen at town meetings here.

If they had a legit complaint the majority of the council would more often than not agree with them. But, some folks channel their frustrations about the evil feds, the NWO, The Rockefellers, etc., toward niddly shit town govt people, and as often as not those who complain incessantly are simply bullying folks because they can, all the while thinking of themselves as local heroes instead of the disruptive, anti social,, arrested development buttheads that they are.

I don't share the view that a city meter maid or building inspector be shot with a sniper rifle to even the score for what Lon Horiuchi did at Ruby Ridge.

To advocate such would be to forfeit the high moral ground and simply reduce one's self to a mutual combatant in a battle of competing evils.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-02-08   9:13:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: HOUNDDAWG (#35)

I don't share the view that a city meter maid or building inspector be shot with a sniper rifle to even the score for what Lon Horiuchi did at Ruby Ridge.

To advocate such would be to forfeit the high moral ground and simply reduce one's self to a mutual combatant in a battle of competing evils.

That's pretty sage wisdom there HD. For local boobs wallowing in power trips, there's plenty of petty BS of theirs that merely needs to be brought to light to get the locals to give them the boot...

Axenolith  posted on  2008-02-08   11:12:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#47. To: Axenolith (#44) (Edited)

That's pretty sage wisdom there HD. For local boobs wallowing in power trips, there's plenty of petty BS of theirs that merely needs to be brought to light to get the locals to give them the boot

Thank you.

More often than not the "conspiracy of the mediocre" will combine against those who try to unseat entrenched local officials. They won't elect worthy people but they'll resist me with all they have if I try to remove the petty despots who walk into office unopposed.

The only thing left is to move out into the county and beyond the reach of tiny municipal, corporate tyrants. That's what I did, and I'm better off for having done so.

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