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Title: Message from Ron [he's a GOP through and through, will ease on prez campaigning]
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Ron Paul 2008
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Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2008-02-09 08:26:19 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Message from Ron Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well. Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican. I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen. In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me. Sincerely, Ron
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#125. To: christine (#123)
I think that is going to be my focus from now on. You can fight everything else all you want but unless you have valid elections, nothing is winnable and nothing will change.
But what about the Myanmar republic? Shouldn't we be more concerned with their right to demonstrate and the denial of their right to vote in free and fair elections? I mean you know, they REALLY HATE US BECAUSE OF OUR FREEDOM.
Depends if you are thinking of revolution or genocide. Seems some rather just slit their own wrists than risk either.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it. I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House. Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free-- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending--if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained--we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us! They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable--and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come. It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death -- Patrick Henry NO THIRD PARTY RUN. ..The only way he could have made a true and lasting difference, and maybe even won the general election, was to go third party right now, after he has used the GOP as a mouthpiece, which he has done. Future pusuits under the GOP flag will do NO good at all. I am deeply disappointed, and so must be all who gave their hard earned money to him. Yes I am cynical. Party over country. NOt the Ron Paul I thought I knew. I am saddened because he has relegated us to the Final Option. I do not like it. I hesitate to embrace it. However, there is no appeal in this court. America is dying. Ron Paul's decision has ensured that it will continue to die. "There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & a half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. -- Thomas Jefferson 11/13/1787
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx He'll be the last voice crying in the wilderness. He should go Constitution Party and then start a new group. Better than a Think Tank. A Movement to train up the youngins and prepare for the future fights!
TOS2: Patrick Henry Warns Constitutional Delegates: "I see great jeapardy in this new government."
If you call honesty (Paul isn't a leader) trashing, you're the one who needs help. Your continued faith in a fraud explains all to well why we're in the mess we're are. So pump up the blimp and go vote for the lesser of two evil. Ron Paul, Republican, TX, surely will.
"Cookie" Thornton did more this past week to eliminate govermental waste than any politician has in my lifetime.
IF? We have over 300 million people in this country. Of course there is someone else to run. But with everyone getting behind Ron Paul's run they saw no need to run, now they have to with very little time to organize.
God is always good!
So now Ron Paul is a fraud.... I got no time to bother with that take.
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The honorable gentleman who presides told us that, to prevent abuses in our government, we will assemble in Convention, recall our delegated powers, and punish our servants for abusing the trust reposed in them. O sir, we should have fine times, indeed, if, to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people! Your arms, wherewith you could defend yourselves, are gone; and you have no longer an aristocratical, no longer a democratical spirit. Did you ever read of any revolution in a nation, brought about by the punishment of those in power, inflicted by those who had no power at all? You read of a riot act in a country which is called one of the freest in the world, where a few neighbors cannot assemble without the risk of being shot by a hired soldiery, the engines of despotism. We may see such an act in America.
Told you so.
I got no time to bother with that take. American politics are a fraud, and Ron Paul is a proud member of the Republican branch of the national establishment party. His words, not mine.
You sure did. No wonder we've been ground to dust. It's time to scrape the Ron Paul bumper stickers off their car fenders and replace them with a "Don't tase Me Bro" plea.
Or "don't gas me."
The reality is that Paul cannot win the election more due to the systemic corruption than to a fault of his and our efforts. American people haven't had a choice in the past two presidential elections, why would this one be any different? Romney has "suspended his campaign". Paul is backing off some. Is something happening of which we are not aware? Imminent something? Like Maybe McCain cancer or Pakistan war or something?
Some would compliantly line up after given their bar of soap.
Yes, I agree.
And your inability to state who he should step aside for is amusing.
He has just now proven that by his own words, failing to now run as a third party candidate with a real chance to win the general election. You are correct, sir.
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I tend to agree with you, Pinguinite.
Set down the pipe and back away slowly.....
people.ronpaul2008.com/ca...ou-wont-find-on-fox-news/ A Scorecard You Won’t Find on Fox News Supporter Loren C. sends in this excellent summary of what Ron Paul has achieved so far. A friend of mine asked me tonight, “Should Ron Paul just quit? I never hear of him on the news so he can’t be doing very well today (Super Tuesday).” Here is my reply to him: I don’t care what the liberal media is saying, he has, 2nd place in Nevada 2nd place in Louisiana (possibly first once they get it sorted out) 2nd place in Montana 2nd place in Maine 3rd place in Utah 3rd place in North Dakota There is about 21 more states left to vote, He has plenty of money, No one has even close to enough delegates to take the nomination, He has the only true Republican stance on the issues, He is the only candidate who believes our government should follow ALL of the Constitution, Quit? Not even close. Keep fighting, Ron Paul is! Well said. And while the momentum John McCain has been gaining lately may appear daunting, Ron Paul supporters are the ones who should be least intimidated by it, because as the other, fraudulent alternatives to John McCain fail one by one — Mitt Romney is certainly on the ropes after tonight, especially if, as appears to be the case, he loses California to McCain — the real alternative to McCain-ism, Ron Paul, will only become more attractive to conservative Republican voters. Indeed, it’s interesting to note that so many of the states McCain won tonight were blue states which any Republican (except the antiwar Dr. Paul) will have a hard, if not impossible, time winning in November. And despite his wins tonight, McCain does not have a majority of Republican National Delegates, so the fight for the nomination is still very much on. This entry was posted on Wednesday, February 6th, 2008 at 12:52 am and is filed under primaries. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is currently not allowed.
We can't be treating America as though there IS a way of winning and that all we need to do is find it and win the election. This isn't a movie. It's a slow process. That's something the world controlling elite learned a long time ago. Ron Paul, at this point in time, has accomplished more in his prez candidacy in awakening people than probably any 3rd party candidate has even after a general election. We're definitely better off today than we would be if he never ran. Amen and pass the ashtry!!! Where do these people come from? The man is completely ignored in the media and the debates as a republican Congressman, and yet he's going to come back and win the whole shebang as an independent, even though he would be unable to run as President in at least eight states due to their anti-third party laws? These folks aren't looking for a presidential candidate, they're looking for a Christ figure to perform miracles by snapping his fingers and making "things right."
I had serious concerns about Ron Paul's determination after the NH primaries, where neither he nor his campaign made any sort of effort to join in the recount effort after there was blatent evidence of fraud. Seemed to me at the time that if he were serious about confronting the establishment, he would have made some noise about the matter, and not simply shrugged it off and left it to other people. I was also a bit dismayed with his lack of campaigning, where it was largely his supporters that were running the campaign. I didn't see any sort of effort on his part to wisely spend the donations given him by people scraping their pockets to give him a chance to win.
"real chance?". Try "Fat Chance". I mean if he decided to go independent/3rd party I'd support him, but how can you fault someone who won a seat in congress 10 times while talking about the Constitution? Ron has done the 3rd party thing before. Can't we respect his experience in this decision to stay in the R party? Apparently some can't. Ron's been there. Ron's done that. The vast majority of us haven't done either.
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These people are so full of cynicism and conspiracy theories they're just LOOKING for reasons to abandon Dr. Paul, even where none exist. You're wasting your time. Neither one of us needs to stand up for Dr. Paul. His record speaks for itself. On top of that, the majority of those whining now have never done a damned thing to further the cause of liberty and wouldn't make a pimple on the good doctor's ass.
Exactly.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Thank-you, IndieTX. I'm tired of dancing around the issue. He made it abundantly clear he isn't a leader, nor was Perot or Buchanan before him (all of which I worked for, and financially supported). I 'get' the charade and others will in time.
I won't go that far. I think a lot of us here on 4um have done various amounts of good, each in our own way. Those who have deserve respect and I won't deny them that.
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Are you saying RPs 'experience' has led him to stay in a party which is led by a genocidal mass murdered? A party filled with wide stanced, cross dressing perverts? Who does Paul eat lunch with, the overt Barney Frank or the closet David Drier?No man worth his salt would remain in the Republican party.....
I dislike getting TWO emails asking for money for Pauls Texas run for Congress. The email he sent under his name is self explanatory and very contradictory. Whether Romney is in or out had nothing to do with a brokered convention. That is totally misleading. Regardless of how one perceives Pauls email, the effort has lost its way and it appears it may be terminal.
Abso-freegan-lutly. He is, after all, immune to their cross dressing, both figurative and literal.
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Pauls devotion to the "republican" party was embarrassing. Does he really believe that all of us honestly think there are TWO parties.
Re NH.........as I recall, Ron, if not, then his campaign, said that the results in NH was in line with their own internal polling....so you think he should contest it anyways, spending valuable dollars and time, to fight for perhaps an additional per centage, maybe 2, which still wouldn't gain him a position change, or delegate count? You're saying this, and Ricky J is saying he's spending donations foolishly.........can't have it both ways, IMO. All that effort to have virtually nothing change would have given the msm types ammo to toss out the 'kook', the 'whiner', or any other thing with which they'd try to excoriate him. Thus far, Ron's comportment has been above reproach-- he's been the true gentleman of the game and can't be knocked around by them. One little tiny slip and they'd 'Dean' him in a heartbeat, and the republocraps would be rolling their eyes, and muttering under their breaths, and yet into an open mic, about the weird Dr. No., or some such. So far, they don't have of that kind of ammo to lob at him, to denigrate him in front of any 'newcomers'. Just because his campaign isn't hitting msm doesn't mean that he isn't campaigning. MSM won't do his a favor by mentioning his finish (unless its dead last, of course), so why would you expect them to let you know he was in Michigan, Nevada, Idaho, Timbucktoo, or anyplace else? What part of 'blackout' do you not understand? Remember, too, some of them bastids wouldn't even let him in the friggin 'debates'!!! Do you have access to the information on expenditures of donations? Have you bothered to look at the FEC filings? There are still 20 something states to hold primaries which would require some advertising, I would think. DId you read or hear where Ghouliana spent over $3 million on some advertising--maybe in FLA, while he was still spending oodles of personal time there. I really have to smile at some of these things people are saying...........the gopers started off with 10 candidates, then keyes jumped in, and now all that is left is the Mchurian Candidate, Huckster, Ron, and keyes! Even the richest of all the candidates,either side of the aisle, has suspended!!! And Ron just keeps on moving along, still in the race. He isn't a miracle worker, never professed to be. Everyone should be rejoicing in the new faces that have been brought into the circle of people that have seen the light of the damage done this nation. The sheeple have to be taught first, or learn about it, before change is going to be instigated. Imagine what would/could happen if half a dozen banks had runs on them, or closed in the current economic climate. Don't you believe that even more people will come to realize something is terribly wrong...meaning the Message will be able to continue going outward.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
Sorry to break it to you Cyni, but..... there are only two parties. That matter. The rest are good for, as they say, "educational purposes only". And there's value in that in spreading the word and waking people up, but in terms of getting elected president, they don't exist.
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There is ONE party, the ruling elite government party.
and so you volunteer RP for that job?
Cyni, most likely he realizes there are two parties TO WORK WITHIN. The 'd' head called a party and the "r" head called a party. He knows, after having traveled the 3rd party ticket before, and seeing what happened with Perot, that it would be a cold day in hell before there would be any headway made on that front...........can the Message afford to be lost to the masses for another 4 - 8 years? If I had the desire and/or the time, i'd take on a project entitled, "51+ Sets of Rules and Regulations for Campaigning at the Federal Level in the United States of America".....just so everyone could have easy access to seeing just how difficult it is for anyone other than a 'd' or an 'r' to get on the ballot in all states. I'm sure you'd agree that such a candidate would need to run in each of the 50 states, plus the territories, and the district, don't you? Just imagine it costing a mere $1 million in fees, legal costs, signature collections, etc., in order to get your name on the ballot in every state.......geeze, that would only be $50 MILLION dollars! How many millions did Perot spend just in the state of New York? I recall it as being 'many'.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
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#126. To: farmfriend (#125)
#127. To: Zoroaster (#122)
I learned my lesson with Pat Buchanan, which is why I never got excited by Ron Paul. Didn't Thomas Jefferson say something like "The tree of liberty must be nourished with blood ever twenty years or so?"
#128. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, noone222, _______, all (#0)
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No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The questing before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.
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#129. To: All, REDPANTHER (#128)
PING
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#130. To: who knows what evil (#124)
#131. To: IndieTX, richard9151 (#128)
#132. To: Pinguinite (#78)
You trash RP's efforts because why? Because he didn't succeed?
#133. To: iconoclast, Esso, all (#116)
#134. To: Pinguinite (#92)
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If there was someone else, the group would have found him (or her) long before Ron started his presidential run.
#135. To: Jethro Tull (#132)
Your continued faith in a fraud explains all to well why we're in the mess we're are.
#136. To: buckeye (#131)
#137. To: Jethro Tull (#116)
#138. To: Pinguinite (#135)
So now Ron Paul is a fraud....
#139. To: Esso (#137)
#140. To: Jethro Tull (#139)
#141. To: Cynicom (#47)
Paul has destroyed any organized effort by Americans on the right of having a choice in this election. His failure to step aside is appalling.
#142. To: buckeye (#140)
#143. To: Original_Intent (#56)
but in short the voting (and media) system is currently so rigged that there is no way for an honest Candidate, not a controlled by the Banksters Machine Candibot, to win.
#144. To: Cynicom (#47)
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Paul has destroyed any organized effort by Americans on the right of having a choice in this election. His failure to step aside is appalling.
#145. To: Jethro Tull (#138)
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American politics are a fraud, and Ron Paul is a proud member of the Republican branch of the national establishment party. His words, not mine.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#146. To: RickyJ (#134)
IF? We have over 300 million people in this country. Of course there is someone else to run. But with everyone getting behind Ron Paul's run they saw no need to run, now they have to with very little time to organize.
#147. To: Pinguinite (#146)
#148. To: IndieTX (#145)
third party candidate with a real chance to win the general election.
#149. To: Pinguinite, FOH (#146)
#150. To: Pinguinite (#146)
Organize what? A 3rd party run? They don't work, though there will be a Libertarian candidate to vote for.
#151. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
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You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#152. To: IndieTX (#145)
failing to now run as a third party candidate with a real chance to win the general election.
#153. To: Pinguinite (#152)
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Ron has done the 3rd party thing before. Can't we respect his experience in this decision to stay in the R party? Apparently some can't. Ron's been there. Ron's done that. The vast majority of us haven't done either.
#154. To: Hayek Fan (#153)
On top of that, the majority of those whining now have never done a damned thing to further the cause of liberty and would make a pimple on the good doctor's ass.
#155. To: IndieTX (#145)
#156. To: Hayek Fan (#153)
On top of that, the majority of those whining now have never done a damned thing to further the cause of liberty and wouldn't make a pimple on the good doctor's ass.
#157. To: Pinguinite, all (#152)
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Can't we respect his experience in this decision to stay in the R party?
#158. To: angle (#141)
Paul is backing off some
#159. To: Jethro Tull (#157)
Are you saying RPs 'experience' has led him to stay in a party which is led by a genocidal mass murdered? A party filled with wide stanced, cross dressing perverts?
#160. To: Jethro Tull (#157)
No man worth his salt would remain in the Republican party.....
#161. To: FormerLurker, RickyJ (#151)
#162. To: Cynicom (#160)
Does he really believe that all of us honestly think there are TWO parties.
#163. To: Pinguinite (#162)
there are only two parties.
#164. To: christine (#123)
except for the VOTE FRAUD. that's what i wanted illuminated.
#165. To: Cynicom (#160)
Does he really believe that all of us honestly think there are TWO parties.
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