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Title: Message from Ron [he's a GOP through and through, will ease on prez campaigning]
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Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2008-02-09 08:26:19 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Message from Ron Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well. Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican. I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen. In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me. Sincerely, Ron
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#146. To: RickyJ (#134)
Organize what? A 3rd party run? They don't work, though there will be a Libertarian candidate to vote for. We can't be treating America as though there IS a way of winning and that all we need to do is find it and win the election. This isn't a movie. It's a slow process. That's something the world controlling elite learned a long time ago. Ron Paul, at this point in time, has accomplished more in his prez candidacy in awakening people than probably any 3rd party candidate has even after a general election. We're definitely better off today than we would be if he never ran.
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I tend to agree with you, Pinguinite.
Set down the pipe and back away slowly.....
people.ronpaul2008.com/ca...ou-wont-find-on-fox-news/ A Scorecard You Won’t Find on Fox News Supporter Loren C. sends in this excellent summary of what Ron Paul has achieved so far. A friend of mine asked me tonight, “Should Ron Paul just quit? I never hear of him on the news so he can’t be doing very well today (Super Tuesday).” Here is my reply to him: I don’t care what the liberal media is saying, he has, 2nd place in Nevada 2nd place in Louisiana (possibly first once they get it sorted out) 2nd place in Montana 2nd place in Maine 3rd place in Utah 3rd place in North Dakota There is about 21 more states left to vote, He has plenty of money, No one has even close to enough delegates to take the nomination, He has the only true Republican stance on the issues, He is the only candidate who believes our government should follow ALL of the Constitution, Quit? Not even close. Keep fighting, Ron Paul is! Well said. And while the momentum John McCain has been gaining lately may appear daunting, Ron Paul supporters are the ones who should be least intimidated by it, because as the other, fraudulent alternatives to John McCain fail one by one — Mitt Romney is certainly on the ropes after tonight, especially if, as appears to be the case, he loses California to McCain — the real alternative to McCain-ism, Ron Paul, will only become more attractive to conservative Republican voters. Indeed, it’s interesting to note that so many of the states McCain won tonight were blue states which any Republican (except the antiwar Dr. Paul) will have a hard, if not impossible, time winning in November. And despite his wins tonight, McCain does not have a majority of Republican National Delegates, so the fight for the nomination is still very much on. This entry was posted on Wednesday, February 6th, 2008 at 12:52 am and is filed under primaries. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is currently not allowed.
We can't be treating America as though there IS a way of winning and that all we need to do is find it and win the election. This isn't a movie. It's a slow process. That's something the world controlling elite learned a long time ago. Ron Paul, at this point in time, has accomplished more in his prez candidacy in awakening people than probably any 3rd party candidate has even after a general election. We're definitely better off today than we would be if he never ran. Amen and pass the ashtry!!! Where do these people come from? The man is completely ignored in the media and the debates as a republican Congressman, and yet he's going to come back and win the whole shebang as an independent, even though he would be unable to run as President in at least eight states due to their anti-third party laws? These folks aren't looking for a presidential candidate, they're looking for a Christ figure to perform miracles by snapping his fingers and making "things right."
I had serious concerns about Ron Paul's determination after the NH primaries, where neither he nor his campaign made any sort of effort to join in the recount effort after there was blatent evidence of fraud. Seemed to me at the time that if he were serious about confronting the establishment, he would have made some noise about the matter, and not simply shrugged it off and left it to other people. I was also a bit dismayed with his lack of campaigning, where it was largely his supporters that were running the campaign. I didn't see any sort of effort on his part to wisely spend the donations given him by people scraping their pockets to give him a chance to win.
"real chance?". Try "Fat Chance". I mean if he decided to go independent/3rd party I'd support him, but how can you fault someone who won a seat in congress 10 times while talking about the Constitution? Ron has done the 3rd party thing before. Can't we respect his experience in this decision to stay in the R party? Apparently some can't. Ron's been there. Ron's done that. The vast majority of us haven't done either.
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These people are so full of cynicism and conspiracy theories they're just LOOKING for reasons to abandon Dr. Paul, even where none exist. You're wasting your time. Neither one of us needs to stand up for Dr. Paul. His record speaks for itself. On top of that, the majority of those whining now have never done a damned thing to further the cause of liberty and wouldn't make a pimple on the good doctor's ass.
Exactly.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Thank-you, IndieTX. I'm tired of dancing around the issue. He made it abundantly clear he isn't a leader, nor was Perot or Buchanan before him (all of which I worked for, and financially supported). I 'get' the charade and others will in time.
I won't go that far. I think a lot of us here on 4um have done various amounts of good, each in our own way. Those who have deserve respect and I won't deny them that.
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Are you saying RPs 'experience' has led him to stay in a party which is led by a genocidal mass murdered? A party filled with wide stanced, cross dressing perverts? Who does Paul eat lunch with, the overt Barney Frank or the closet David Drier?No man worth his salt would remain in the Republican party.....
I dislike getting TWO emails asking for money for Pauls Texas run for Congress. The email he sent under his name is self explanatory and very contradictory. Whether Romney is in or out had nothing to do with a brokered convention. That is totally misleading. Regardless of how one perceives Pauls email, the effort has lost its way and it appears it may be terminal.
Abso-freegan-lutly. He is, after all, immune to their cross dressing, both figurative and literal.
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Pauls devotion to the "republican" party was embarrassing. Does he really believe that all of us honestly think there are TWO parties.
Re NH.........as I recall, Ron, if not, then his campaign, said that the results in NH was in line with their own internal polling....so you think he should contest it anyways, spending valuable dollars and time, to fight for perhaps an additional per centage, maybe 2, which still wouldn't gain him a position change, or delegate count? You're saying this, and Ricky J is saying he's spending donations foolishly.........can't have it both ways, IMO. All that effort to have virtually nothing change would have given the msm types ammo to toss out the 'kook', the 'whiner', or any other thing with which they'd try to excoriate him. Thus far, Ron's comportment has been above reproach-- he's been the true gentleman of the game and can't be knocked around by them. One little tiny slip and they'd 'Dean' him in a heartbeat, and the republocraps would be rolling their eyes, and muttering under their breaths, and yet into an open mic, about the weird Dr. No., or some such. So far, they don't have of that kind of ammo to lob at him, to denigrate him in front of any 'newcomers'. Just because his campaign isn't hitting msm doesn't mean that he isn't campaigning. MSM won't do his a favor by mentioning his finish (unless its dead last, of course), so why would you expect them to let you know he was in Michigan, Nevada, Idaho, Timbucktoo, or anyplace else? What part of 'blackout' do you not understand? Remember, too, some of them bastids wouldn't even let him in the friggin 'debates'!!! Do you have access to the information on expenditures of donations? Have you bothered to look at the FEC filings? There are still 20 something states to hold primaries which would require some advertising, I would think. DId you read or hear where Ghouliana spent over $3 million on some advertising--maybe in FLA, while he was still spending oodles of personal time there. I really have to smile at some of these things people are saying...........the gopers started off with 10 candidates, then keyes jumped in, and now all that is left is the Mchurian Candidate, Huckster, Ron, and keyes! Even the richest of all the candidates,either side of the aisle, has suspended!!! And Ron just keeps on moving along, still in the race. He isn't a miracle worker, never professed to be. Everyone should be rejoicing in the new faces that have been brought into the circle of people that have seen the light of the damage done this nation. The sheeple have to be taught first, or learn about it, before change is going to be instigated. Imagine what would/could happen if half a dozen banks had runs on them, or closed in the current economic climate. Don't you believe that even more people will come to realize something is terribly wrong...meaning the Message will be able to continue going outward.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
Sorry to break it to you Cyni, but..... there are only two parties. That matter. The rest are good for, as they say, "educational purposes only". And there's value in that in spreading the word and waking people up, but in terms of getting elected president, they don't exist.
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There is ONE party, the ruling elite government party.
and so you volunteer RP for that job?
Cyni, most likely he realizes there are two parties TO WORK WITHIN. The 'd' head called a party and the "r" head called a party. He knows, after having traveled the 3rd party ticket before, and seeing what happened with Perot, that it would be a cold day in hell before there would be any headway made on that front...........can the Message afford to be lost to the masses for another 4 - 8 years? If I had the desire and/or the time, i'd take on a project entitled, "51+ Sets of Rules and Regulations for Campaigning at the Federal Level in the United States of America".....just so everyone could have easy access to seeing just how difficult it is for anyone other than a 'd' or an 'r' to get on the ballot in all states. I'm sure you'd agree that such a candidate would need to run in each of the 50 states, plus the territories, and the district, don't you? Just imagine it costing a mere $1 million in fees, legal costs, signature collections, etc., in order to get your name on the ballot in every state.......geeze, that would only be $50 MILLION dollars! How many millions did Perot spend just in the state of New York? I recall it as being 'many'.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
The titular leader of his precious GOP should be chained by the neck to a docket at the Hague and tried for war crimes. And RP is choosing to remain aligned to that? The man is a sellout and he wouldn't have collected a dime had people known in advance his proclivity to be surrounded by queers and internationalists. I want my $100 back.
Are you saying we're all dupes because we were too stupid to see that Ron Paul doesn't belong to the ruling elite?
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
I don't know what to think.
I want our 9.5 trillion dollars back from the future.
Aren't you a retired cop? A profession whose members routinely abuse their authority? A profession whose members routinely taser and murder their fellow citizens? A profession whose members have been on the take for decades? The same standards you use to condem Ron Paul can legitmatley be used right back at you.
That's gone. Its been bundled up and sold as equities to the Red Chinese by the members of the Washington R&D Charter Club.
That matter. Can't ignore that the first step of awareness is breaking free of affiliation, and many did that. Dems swept to power when pubs said, no more. And dems have shown themselves to be no different, as the polls reflect the opinions (if one believe polls), of the pubic awarness of this FACT. Coming to 'see' there is no difference, and taking the next step of exposing 'who' is in charge of both, is nearly impossible considering the media ownership, and the information habits of the average person now fighting to keep a job and has not the time to see the real bastards pulling the levers. But hey, let's not cut them any slack. They should get it right now dammit, and see and demand Ron Paul pull on some stretchy SuperMan tights and fly from tower to tower. The frustration spewed about his party affiliation rather than the body of his works reflect not on Ron Paul, but on those that have been unable to free themselves from pulling the game right back where it started. Damn Republican. Damn Democrat. Action and deed, uncounted. Try THAT dance on your judgement day and see if flys.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Paul went to great end to make sure we all understood that he was a republican. I do not see anywhere that I said or inferred anyone was stupid. It is difficult to accept that Paul goes for months telling the world what is wrong with this country, blaming both parties equally, and then asserts I am a republican. Well then if that is so, he is part of the problem because the "two" parties got us here.
Yes, NYPD, and If I woke up tomorrow morning and every Kevlar-coated cop in America didn't, I'd throw a kegger party in my front lawn. I hold the same sentiment for the scum pols in DC who utilize them as a palace guard.
There is ONE party, the ruling elite government party. I stand corrected.
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You might want to check his posts about working from inside the party machine, and that he wasn't part of the elite. If you look at it, RP hasn't changed the supporter has, and is trying to shift the 'blame'. If RP were an insider, he'd have all the support needed to defeat the DEMOCRAT. The media's treatment of him would be different. RedState and Wonkette would not have conspired to smear him. That is, if RP was an insider. Truth is, the turncoats always were.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Incorrect. NO they can't because WE QUIT becuase of it. RP did not. Your argument falls flat on its face.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Regardless, it's common knowledge that the NYPD is one of, if not the most, corrupted police department's in the United States. Yet you didn't quit. If we were to use the standards you apply to Ron Paul to you, you would not fare well. Glass houses and all that...
He has never been so aligned and if you think otherwise then you're wearing some muddy goggles. You act like the GOP is proud to have Ron Paul as a Republican. In case you hadn't noticed, they hate the guy.
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I didn't see any Ron Paul TV adds on the popular channels, just the lame Manchester station that hardly anyone watches. He should have peppered the Boston stations with his ads, especially the week before the NH primary. In terms of the recount, there may well have been huge disparities between the actual vote and that which was reported. Why else resort to the tactics that have taken place so far, with sealed boxes leaving the precincts and open boxes arriving at the recount center? I'm not saying he should have used millions of dollars in the effort, but could have at least voiced concern and taken a stand on the matter, if anything giving moral support to Kucinich and the brave soul who asked for the Republican recount, Albert Howard. Did NOT getting involved help his cause any? If anything, his name would have at least been in the news, where he is now basically a non-person as far as the media is concerned.
He didn't quit. He retired and is receiving pension check IIRC. So no, it doesn't fall on its face.
I did too. I left in my early 30s, went on to two other professions, plus I built a business from the ground up (since sold). How that compares with the actions of a 72 year old Republican party hack is best left for those still addicted to American politics to ponder.
I quit..and he quit..and the reason why is all of the tazerings we've been seeing and I don't believe in placing people into the Criminal Prison Industial Complex and destroying their lives for BAD LAWS..such as marijuana. I can't tell you how much I dumped on the street and allowed the evil weed doers to egress on their own recognisance. The only diff between retiring and quitting is whether or not you took your pension money or left it in for later. I took it all and got out. To hell with the city's "match" when I'm 65
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx All the more reason to put the Nation Killers in the rear view mirror.
I stand corrected then. For some reason I thought you had retired and were receiving a pension.
I don't get what the big deal is about party affiliation.......my gawd, my own Mother is a democrap! Am I to disown her? Toss her to the wolves? She sure as hell didn't like learning that blow jobs were a part of the WH function any more than I liked hearing about Senator Wide Stance! She is not at fault, just as I am not at fault. The people in action are responsible for their actions. When we discover their actions, then it is up to us to disassociate from that 'evil' person. Ya want him to like and call himself a democrap? Or some other party member when he isn't? People can disagree and still be civil. That he chooses to remain to try to restore the gop to what it once stood for, as back in the days of Goldwater is to his credit. I personally won't give the gopers the time of day. I would only have taken a goper ballot, if necessary, in order to vote for Ron Paul. There is no other goper I would vote for. Not my senators, nor my representative, and sure as hell not Mchurian or Huckleberry or MIttyMouse. I can see where you'd differ, but I can't understand the party thing.......especially knowing that if he said he was anything other than that, they'd be out for his blood, denigrating him as 'two faced', a backstabber, a carpet bagger, a two-timer, a _____________ (fill in the blank)--just anything to mark him as a kook in order to assure his name drops out of society. I've not forgotten B-1 Bob and how the gopers and dems were relieved to have that pain in the ass out of congress. Ditto for Jim Traffi.... And you can bet your sweet bippy it will be likewise with Ron sitting in Congress---they hate and despise the conscience of reason standing up and speaking out. It all gets stuck in the damned Federal Register for eternity.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest IF? We have over 300 million people in this country. Of course there is someone else to run. But with everyone getting behind Ron Paul's run they saw no need to run, now they have to with very little time to organize.
#147. To: Pinguinite (#146)
#148. To: IndieTX (#145)
third party candidate with a real chance to win the general election.
#149. To: Pinguinite, FOH (#146)
#150. To: Pinguinite (#146)
Organize what? A 3rd party run? They don't work, though there will be a Libertarian candidate to vote for.
#151. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
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You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#152. To: IndieTX (#145)
failing to now run as a third party candidate with a real chance to win the general election.
#153. To: Pinguinite (#152)
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Ron has done the 3rd party thing before. Can't we respect his experience in this decision to stay in the R party? Apparently some can't. Ron's been there. Ron's done that. The vast majority of us haven't done either.
#154. To: Hayek Fan (#153)
On top of that, the majority of those whining now have never done a damned thing to further the cause of liberty and would make a pimple on the good doctor's ass.
#155. To: IndieTX (#145)
#156. To: Hayek Fan (#153)
On top of that, the majority of those whining now have never done a damned thing to further the cause of liberty and wouldn't make a pimple on the good doctor's ass.
#157. To: Pinguinite, all (#152)
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Can't we respect his experience in this decision to stay in the R party?
#158. To: angle (#141)
Paul is backing off some
#159. To: Jethro Tull (#157)
Are you saying RPs 'experience' has led him to stay in a party which is led by a genocidal mass murdered? A party filled with wide stanced, cross dressing perverts?
#160. To: Jethro Tull (#157)
No man worth his salt would remain in the Republican party.....
#161. To: FormerLurker, RickyJ (#151)
#162. To: Cynicom (#160)
Does he really believe that all of us honestly think there are TWO parties.
#163. To: Pinguinite (#162)
there are only two parties.
#164. To: christine (#123)
except for the VOTE FRAUD. that's what i wanted illuminated.
#165. To: Cynicom (#160)
Does he really believe that all of us honestly think there are TWO parties.
#166. To: Pinguinite, cynicom, all (#159)
Abso-freegan-lutly.
#167. To: Cynicom (#163)
There is ONE party, the ruling elite government party.
#168. To: Cynicom (#160)
Does he really believe that all of us honestly think there are TWO parties.
#169. To: Jethro Tull (#166)
I want my $100 back.
#170. To: Jethro Tull, Pinguinite (#166)
The titular leader of his precious GOP should be chained by the neck to a docket at the Hague and tried for war crimes. And RP is choosing to remain aligned to that? The man is a sellout and he wouldn't have collected a dime had people known in advance his proclivity to be surrounded by queers and internationalists. I want my $100 back.
#171. To: buckeye (#169)
I want our 9.5 trillion dollars back from the future.
#172. To: Pinguinite (#162)
Sorry to break it to you Cyni, but..... there are only two parties.
#173. To: rowdee (#167)
Are you saying we're all dupes because we were too stupid to see that Ron Paul doesn't belong to the ruling elite?
#174. To: Hayek Fan (#170)
Aren't you a retired cop?
#175. To: Cynicom (#163)
#176. To: rowdee (#167)
Are you saying we're all dupes because we were too stupid to see that Ron Paul doesn't belong to the ruling elite?
#177. To: Hayek Fan, JETHRO TULL (#170)
Aren't you a retired cop? A profession whose members routinely abuse their authority? A profession whose members routinely taser and murder their fellow citizens? A profession whose members have been on the take for decades? The same standards you use to condem Ron Paul can legitmatley be used right back at you.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#178. To: Jethro Tull (#174)
Yes, NYPD, and If I woke up tomorrow morning and every Kevlar-coated cop in America didn't, I'd throw a kegger party in my front lawn. I hold the same sentiment for the scum pols in DC who utilize them as a palace guard.
#179. To: Jethro Tull (#166)
The titular leader of his precious GOP should be chained by the neck to a docket at the Hague and tried for war crimes. And RP is choosing to remain aligned to that?
#180. To: rowdee, RickyJ (#161)
Re NH.........as I recall, Ron, if not, then his campaign, said that the results in NH was in line with their own internal polling....so you think he should contest it anyways, spending valuable dollars and time, to fight for perhaps an additional per centage, maybe 2, which still wouldn't gain him a position change, or delegate count? You're saying this, and Ricky J is saying he's spending donations foolishly.........can't have it both ways, IMO.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#181. To: IndieTX (#177)
WE QUIT becuase of it.
#182. To: Hayek Fan (#178)
Yet you didn't quit.
#183. To: Hayek Fan (#181)
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"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#184. To: Pinguinite (#179)
You act like the GOP is proud to have Ron Paul as a Republican. In case you hadn't noticed, they hate the guy.
#185. To: Jethro Tull (#182)
I did too. I left in my early 30s, went on to two other professions, plus I built a business from the ground up (since sold). How that compares with the actions of a 72 year old Republican party hack is best left for those still addicted to American politics to ponder.
#186. To: Cynicom (#173)
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