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Title: Message from Ron [he's a GOP through and through, will ease on prez campaigning]
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Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2008-02-09 08:26:19 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Message from Ron Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well. Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican. I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen. In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me. Sincerely, Ron
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#169. To: Jethro Tull (#166)
I want our 9.5 trillion dollars back from the future.
Aren't you a retired cop? A profession whose members routinely abuse their authority? A profession whose members routinely taser and murder their fellow citizens? A profession whose members have been on the take for decades? The same standards you use to condem Ron Paul can legitmatley be used right back at you.
That's gone. Its been bundled up and sold as equities to the Red Chinese by the members of the Washington R&D Charter Club.
That matter. Can't ignore that the first step of awareness is breaking free of affiliation, and many did that. Dems swept to power when pubs said, no more. And dems have shown themselves to be no different, as the polls reflect the opinions (if one believe polls), of the pubic awarness of this FACT. Coming to 'see' there is no difference, and taking the next step of exposing 'who' is in charge of both, is nearly impossible considering the media ownership, and the information habits of the average person now fighting to keep a job and has not the time to see the real bastards pulling the levers. But hey, let's not cut them any slack. They should get it right now dammit, and see and demand Ron Paul pull on some stretchy SuperMan tights and fly from tower to tower. The frustration spewed about his party affiliation rather than the body of his works reflect not on Ron Paul, but on those that have been unable to free themselves from pulling the game right back where it started. Damn Republican. Damn Democrat. Action and deed, uncounted. Try THAT dance on your judgement day and see if flys.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Paul went to great end to make sure we all understood that he was a republican. I do not see anywhere that I said or inferred anyone was stupid. It is difficult to accept that Paul goes for months telling the world what is wrong with this country, blaming both parties equally, and then asserts I am a republican. Well then if that is so, he is part of the problem because the "two" parties got us here.
Yes, NYPD, and If I woke up tomorrow morning and every Kevlar-coated cop in America didn't, I'd throw a kegger party in my front lawn. I hold the same sentiment for the scum pols in DC who utilize them as a palace guard.
There is ONE party, the ruling elite government party. I stand corrected.
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You might want to check his posts about working from inside the party machine, and that he wasn't part of the elite. If you look at it, RP hasn't changed the supporter has, and is trying to shift the 'blame'. If RP were an insider, he'd have all the support needed to defeat the DEMOCRAT. The media's treatment of him would be different. RedState and Wonkette would not have conspired to smear him. That is, if RP was an insider. Truth is, the turncoats always were.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Incorrect. NO they can't because WE QUIT becuase of it. RP did not. Your argument falls flat on its face.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Regardless, it's common knowledge that the NYPD is one of, if not the most, corrupted police department's in the United States. Yet you didn't quit. If we were to use the standards you apply to Ron Paul to you, you would not fare well. Glass houses and all that...
He has never been so aligned and if you think otherwise then you're wearing some muddy goggles. You act like the GOP is proud to have Ron Paul as a Republican. In case you hadn't noticed, they hate the guy.
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I didn't see any Ron Paul TV adds on the popular channels, just the lame Manchester station that hardly anyone watches. He should have peppered the Boston stations with his ads, especially the week before the NH primary. In terms of the recount, there may well have been huge disparities between the actual vote and that which was reported. Why else resort to the tactics that have taken place so far, with sealed boxes leaving the precincts and open boxes arriving at the recount center? I'm not saying he should have used millions of dollars in the effort, but could have at least voiced concern and taken a stand on the matter, if anything giving moral support to Kucinich and the brave soul who asked for the Republican recount, Albert Howard. Did NOT getting involved help his cause any? If anything, his name would have at least been in the news, where he is now basically a non-person as far as the media is concerned.
He didn't quit. He retired and is receiving pension check IIRC. So no, it doesn't fall on its face.
I did too. I left in my early 30s, went on to two other professions, plus I built a business from the ground up (since sold). How that compares with the actions of a 72 year old Republican party hack is best left for those still addicted to American politics to ponder.
I quit..and he quit..and the reason why is all of the tazerings we've been seeing and I don't believe in placing people into the Criminal Prison Industial Complex and destroying their lives for BAD LAWS..such as marijuana. I can't tell you how much I dumped on the street and allowed the evil weed doers to egress on their own recognisance. The only diff between retiring and quitting is whether or not you took your pension money or left it in for later. I took it all and got out. To hell with the city's "match" when I'm 65
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx All the more reason to put the Nation Killers in the rear view mirror.
I stand corrected then. For some reason I thought you had retired and were receiving a pension.
I don't get what the big deal is about party affiliation.......my gawd, my own Mother is a democrap! Am I to disown her? Toss her to the wolves? She sure as hell didn't like learning that blow jobs were a part of the WH function any more than I liked hearing about Senator Wide Stance! She is not at fault, just as I am not at fault. The people in action are responsible for their actions. When we discover their actions, then it is up to us to disassociate from that 'evil' person. Ya want him to like and call himself a democrap? Or some other party member when he isn't? People can disagree and still be civil. That he chooses to remain to try to restore the gop to what it once stood for, as back in the days of Goldwater is to his credit. I personally won't give the gopers the time of day. I would only have taken a goper ballot, if necessary, in order to vote for Ron Paul. There is no other goper I would vote for. Not my senators, nor my representative, and sure as hell not Mchurian or Huckleberry or MIttyMouse. I can see where you'd differ, but I can't understand the party thing.......especially knowing that if he said he was anything other than that, they'd be out for his blood, denigrating him as 'two faced', a backstabber, a carpet bagger, a two-timer, a _____________ (fill in the blank)--just anything to mark him as a kook in order to assure his name drops out of society. I've not forgotten B-1 Bob and how the gopers and dems were relieved to have that pain in the ass out of congress. Ditto for Jim Traffi.... And you can bet your sweet bippy it will be likewise with Ron sitting in Congress---they hate and despise the conscience of reason standing up and speaking out. It all gets stuck in the damned Federal Register for eternity.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
A few days ago this fraud of a government received a scare in that the economy seemed to be on the brink of collapse For the masses, they all got together, calling it "bi-partisanship", all buddies, and decide to give away money to the gullible . They were saving our sorry butts, except, just maybe they were saving themselves.
Ah......the NYPD allows one to quit and collect a vested pension if qualified. Your point?
Labels have been meaningless for a very long time. There is only one party, just a right and left wing of the same turkey. The turkey owns and operates both wings.
You mean like the ad we prepaid to run in the Manchester paper on the Sun b4 the primaries and "they forgot"? Those popular ads?
And so you must wonder why all this sudden hatred for Ron Paul. Perhaps the turncoats want him completely out and silenced. Their motive is what?
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
My point doesn't stand. It would only have stood if you had completed your 20 year career and then retired. At that point you would have been applying a double standard. Since this wasn't the case, my point is moot.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Were convention halls closed to him? Were TV and radio slots refused? In any case, he may have some money left now for better things.
We trusted the word of a lackey. That was enough. But Ron Paul is a turd.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
I had long conversations with the UL, from the newsroom to the editors and publisher. I am as cynical as they come but I came away satisfied that human error (stupidity) was the culprit.
Gotcha. No harm, no foul. 10-4, over and out.
I haven't heard of the Paul campaign being denied ads in the media, have you? It's one thing for the media to ignore private citizen, but I believe there would be hell to pay if a candidate's official campaign was refused ad time.
...and the rest of the media blackout? That was human error as well?
It's happened 3 times that I know of. One was a live broadcast when he was denied a seat at the Fox debate, the second was a paid newspaper ad that was inadvertently forgotten, then the following week, the 4um ad was inadvertently forgotten. So, yeah, denied, yes. As to the number of questions and time allowed to answer, have you followed any of that? If not, you might be SHOCKED to learn, he didn't get equal time. As for being crossed off ballots, airbrushed from ads, left off ballots, not shown on front pages of major newpapers, yeah... that seems to fall in the category of denied. Off the top of by pointy little head.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
That's different. Ron Paul is a turd now... get with it.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Certainly not. I just wanted to clear up that one matter of interest because I was involved.
Do you have access to all the broadcast stations 24/7 and were you monitoring to see if any of his ads were showing? Was there advertising spaces available? Recall that this forum even tried to buy an ad, and it went south-- right after another person did the same thing.........without a legit reason why, other than 'they screwed up'.....an that was immediately before the election. Air time, as I recall with radio and tv, just before elections was hard to come by. And Ron didn't have all the big bucks to even contemplate a lot of ads until the December bomb........so could that have arrived in time, or were guys like romney hoarding the airwaves? Regarding the vote counts.......there could have been differences, but Ron's campaign did not find it to be so. They were right in the ballpark with what his polling showed they would garner. IIRC, he couldn't have gained enough to make a difference. Part of the game is knowing when to hold em and to fold em. After all these years of being a student of history, I would hope that Ron knows which battles to choose to stand and fight vs backing off for another day and another chance at battle. For what its worth, Ron's name is not, has not, nor will it be in the news--except if faux paux are made. Recall the debate where he got onto Ghouli re WOT, and Ghouli told Ron to retract what he had said--the snorting and snickering and laughing by media types--they hold him beneath contempt----but shut their friggin mouths when it was determined that what Ron said was exactly what the beloved 911 commission said! I've not heard a single one of them apologize or withdraw their stupid remarks.....they don't want his name out there. He shows the world how stupid they are. After all, it has been the media types who have told the sheeple for years that the economy, money and finances is too complicated to discuss is such a short time, blah blah blah......and now their ignorance is showing. No doubt, most of the glossy lipped blonde babes and the hairdo foo foo guys haven't a clue as to what a federal reserve note is; certainly no idea of what the gold standard is all about.....or that money is created out of thin air! You wouldn't like somebody who was always making you aware of how stupid you are, would ya? BTW, I am not saying that you are stupid--I'm referring to the talking heads...
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
Oh, we agree on that Cyni........i have said that for ages........a two headed leviathan!
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
A) That wasn't paid advertising from the candidates, that was a "forum" run by Faux. And yes, I was one of the people waving RP signs out in the streets of Manchester that night. B) I'm not sure what you're talking about on this one. C) 4um is a private entity, it is not the official RP campaign. I agree that he's been ignored by the media since the NH primary. BUT, you're not understanding my point. The point is that he did not campaign in NH like the other candidates did, and that is what I'm talking about.
I have to wonder in the months to come if Paul will indeed endorse McCain or if he will withhold. I would like to ask Paul that question, as a republican, will he endorse McCain.
All I saw on TV were Romney and Guiliani ads for awhile, and then McCain ads. Only days before the primary did I see Ron Paul ads on the more popular stations, yet they were few and far between. And again, 4um is not the offical RP campaign. Perhaps the paper checked the site and had problems with running an ad from our 4um, with some of the posts that are made here concerning Jews and stuff, who knows. Hey man, think what you want, whether it be wishful thinking or denial. I'm just reporting my observations, if that bothers you, then don't read what I write.
Rowdee, There is hardly any sense in arguing with those clearly waiting for their chance to dump all over RP. They are picking apart that which they felt he should have done better, yet, when it was time to put the ad together for the 4um, who actually put their ass on the line with ideas and effort, not to mention cash. They know who they are. Now, the freeking asslicking vultures are here to pick the bones of what they believe a bird not to their liking, which tells me quite alot about their true motives. Waiting for a weakness to go in for the kill. This argument is not about RP the "republican", its about murdering off hope. The yoke is heavier on them, than us.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
It was an accident. LOL
Why? Because they don't like seeing themselves as a part of the problem-- because he speaks to that. If they can get rid of the consciences of decent people, then the debil will have a field day. Up is down, white is black, left is right, east is west--whatever they want it to be. And there is no one out there to correct them! It has to stick in their collective craws everytime the raise issue comes up and Ron Paul speaks out against it.....without him there, there's a soothing effect--they can justify in their evil mind that they deserve it cause they work so hard, blah blah. Spend more money--oh what the hell.........its just paper that someone is printing at our request; we don't have to worry about where it comes from, blah blah, and on and on. Liars get habituated to lying and in no time it doesn't bother them. Even when people talk about lying--you can get them to agree it is wrong--but they don't see that what they are saying is a lie!
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
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#170. To: Jethro Tull, Pinguinite (#166)
The titular leader of his precious GOP should be chained by the neck to a docket at the Hague and tried for war crimes. And RP is choosing to remain aligned to that? The man is a sellout and he wouldn't have collected a dime had people known in advance his proclivity to be surrounded by queers and internationalists. I want my $100 back.
#171. To: buckeye (#169)
I want our 9.5 trillion dollars back from the future.
#172. To: Pinguinite (#162)
Sorry to break it to you Cyni, but..... there are only two parties.
#173. To: rowdee (#167)
Are you saying we're all dupes because we were too stupid to see that Ron Paul doesn't belong to the ruling elite?
#174. To: Hayek Fan (#170)
Aren't you a retired cop?
#175. To: Cynicom (#163)
#176. To: rowdee (#167)
Are you saying we're all dupes because we were too stupid to see that Ron Paul doesn't belong to the ruling elite?
#177. To: Hayek Fan, JETHRO TULL (#170)
Aren't you a retired cop? A profession whose members routinely abuse their authority? A profession whose members routinely taser and murder their fellow citizens? A profession whose members have been on the take for decades? The same standards you use to condem Ron Paul can legitmatley be used right back at you.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#178. To: Jethro Tull (#174)
Yes, NYPD, and If I woke up tomorrow morning and every Kevlar-coated cop in America didn't, I'd throw a kegger party in my front lawn. I hold the same sentiment for the scum pols in DC who utilize them as a palace guard.
#179. To: Jethro Tull (#166)
The titular leader of his precious GOP should be chained by the neck to a docket at the Hague and tried for war crimes. And RP is choosing to remain aligned to that?
#180. To: rowdee, RickyJ (#161)
Re NH.........as I recall, Ron, if not, then his campaign, said that the results in NH was in line with their own internal polling....so you think he should contest it anyways, spending valuable dollars and time, to fight for perhaps an additional per centage, maybe 2, which still wouldn't gain him a position change, or delegate count? You're saying this, and Ricky J is saying he's spending donations foolishly.........can't have it both ways, IMO.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#181. To: IndieTX (#177)
WE QUIT becuase of it.
#182. To: Hayek Fan (#178)
Yet you didn't quit.
#183. To: Hayek Fan (#181)
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"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#184. To: Pinguinite (#179)
You act like the GOP is proud to have Ron Paul as a Republican. In case you hadn't noticed, they hate the guy.
#185. To: Jethro Tull (#182)
I did too. I left in my early 30s, went on to two other professions, plus I built a business from the ground up (since sold). How that compares with the actions of a 72 year old Republican party hack is best left for those still addicted to American politics to ponder.
#186. To: Cynicom (#173)
#187. To: Pinguinite (#175)
#188. To: Hayek Fan (#181)
He didn't quit. He retired and is receiving pension check IIRC
#189. To: rowdee (#186)
#190. To: FormerLurker, christine (#180)
He should have peppered the Boston stations with his ads, especially the week before the NH primary.
#191. To: rowdee (#186)
And you can bet your sweet bippy it will be likewise with Ron sitting in Congress---they hate and despise the conscience of reason standing up and speaking out. It all gets stuck in the damned Federal Register for eternity.
#192. To: Jethro Tull (#188)
Ah......the NYPD allows one to quit and collect a vested pension if qualified. Your point?
#193. To: angle (#190)
#194. To: angle (#190)
You mean like the ad we prepaid to run in the Manchester paper on the Sun b4 the primaries and "they forgot"? Those popular ads?
#195. To: angle (#190)
#196. To: Hayek Fan (#192)
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#197. To: angle (#190)
You mean like the ad we prepaid to run in the Manchester paper on the Sun b4 the primaries and "they forgot"? Those popular ads?
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#198. To: Cynicom (#195)
I am as cynical as they come but I came away satisfied that human error (stupidity) was the culprit.
#199. To: FormerLurker (#197)
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I haven't heard of the Paul campaign being denied ads in the media, have you? It's one thing for the media to ignore private citizen, but I believe there would be hell to pay if a candidate's official campaign was refused ad time.
#200. To: angle (#198)
...and the rest of the media blackout? That was human error as well?
#201. To: angle (#198)
.and the rest of the media blackout? That was human error as well?
#202. To: FormerLurker (#180)
#203. To: Cynicom (#189)
#204. To: Peppa (#199)
One was a live broadcast when he was denied a seat at the Fox debate, the second was a paid newspaper ad that was inadvertently forgotten, then the following week, the 4um ad was inadvertently forgotten.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#205. To: rowdee (#202)
You wouldn't like somebody who was always making you aware of how stupid you are, would ya?
#206. To: rowdee (#202)
Do you have access to all the broadcast stations 24/7 and were you monitoring to see if any of his ads were showing? Was there advertising spaces available? Recall that this forum even tried to buy an ad, and it went south-- right after another person did the same thing.........without a legit reason why, other than 'they screwed up'.....an that was immediately before the election.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#207. To: rowdee (#202)
#208. To: angle (#190)
You mean like the ad we prepaid to run in the Manchester paper on the Sun b4 the primaries and "they forgot"? Those popular ads?
#209. To: Peppa (#191)
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