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Title: Message from Ron [he's a GOP through and through, will ease on prez campaigning]
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Ron Paul 2008
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Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2008-02-09 08:26:19 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Message from Ron Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well. Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican. I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen. In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me. Sincerely, Ron
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#227. To: Peppa (#212)
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It's the primary that set the stage for the rest of the country. Up till then, RP WAS getting some coverage on various networks, including CNN and Fox. Of course Juli Arnie and such were getting more coverage even though they scored lower than RP in the NH primary, but that was to be expected. If Ron Paul had gone out and actively campaigned, speaking to the people and making campaign speeches to the public, then I think he would have done MUCH better to where he couldn't have so easily been ignored and "blackedout". I DID see him in person close up, and to me, he seemed like a tired old guy and looked exhausted. I think perhaps he's just too old to have the energy to do what it takes to actively campaign, and that's the biggest reason he didn't do as well as we all hoped.
I read Ron's response to the NH fraud. His response seemed reasoned, at least. He considered the difference in vote totals between the diebold and non-diebold precincts and reasoned that they also shared differences in demographics, not just in having or not having diebold. Ron didn't claim to believe that there was no fraud, he instead claimed that it was plausible that the counts were accurate -- a very different thing. That contrasted very much with his reaction in Louisiana where he was very vocal in contesting vote counting there. I would hope he would have scored points with you in LA. To me, it's a question of when to defer to another's judgment when that person is someone you know is on your side, and know can be trusted. If they come in your front door and tell you a story about what happened to them in town, then if it's someone you trust, then the first thing you do is you believe them, not start doubting their story. Vote fraud may well be rampant, but Ron has a long history of experience with the establishment. As I've said on this thread, Ron has "been there, done that", and he's definitely on our side. Because of that, I think it's a mistake to toss him aside or dismiss him at the first disagreement. Ron has his reasons for not challenging the NH count and he has good credentials to back up his judgment. While we can and should disagree where we will, I think we should understand that we are disagreeing with a very experienced and trusted hand, and one that's on our side at that. Maybe what we really need is a watchdog organization whose sole purpose is to challenge every federal election involving someone we like (who loses). Pay out the money and do the recounts without the computers. We don't need Ron Paul to create such an organization.
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And it is that playing the game in the present boundaries that pisses us all off--it is so frustrating. But the D & R set those campaign laws in place so as to have a corner, or lock, on the marketplace of political representation. And this is D & R at federal and AT STATE LEVEL. The D and R parties already meet all the requirements--hell, they made the rules--so they're in the catbird seat and calling the shots that the underlings have to play. So, the underling not only has to cowtow to their rules, they then have to tackle all the media sources.......oh wait, they can't do that cause they've already expended all their funds trying to go over hurdles, through hoops, and jumping canyons established by the D & R system, via lawyers to understand each state, district, and territorial election laws, and filing papers, to be told they have to pay large 'entry' fees in addition to having a gazillion signatures-- all within a couple of weeks or so. And so they work like mad to get signatures, and as quickly as they're turned in, the process begins to knock every signature off the petitions as 'disallowed'. You see, there is a certain number of voters that have to petition the secretary of states office to get a person/party on a ballot......come up one approved name short, and you can't run in that state! Getting a few extra signatures isn't a guarantee, but a huge extra number of signatures can save the day. All that money is essentially pissed away because try raising campaign funds when you don't have the dough to send out more begging letters! THe D & R don't have this problem-- they're already secure and have databases of supporters to call upon at a moments notice.........as well as flocks of union workers to 'volunteer' time to man phone banks, etc. Ever hear of a union supporting a 3rd party candidate? Me neither. When I ran for office, I had to pay UP FRONT for any advertising--they wouldn't take my word for it that the bill would be paid. Imagine that.......advertising agencies want to get paid for making the ads, and then the radio, tv, or newspapers want to be paid to run the ads. Well, anyhow...........there's bundles to learn, we all can.........and we need to be supportive where possible of each other.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
They offered to run it on the 7th but we declined at which time the manager and publisher settled the affair to my satisfaction. So, considering Ron Paul had been denied twice in the preceeding week, we had nothing in hand, but a verbal assurance. Now, you are telling us, that Ron Paul has tacitly endorsed McCain. I think I'll wait to see him do it on TV. Since that seems to be the one thing that will get any coverage. Having McCain as the nominee, is the biggest blatent FU to the American people, EVER. I just don't see RP endorsing him, considering his record. One article suggested voting for Cynthia McKinney, Green Party, since she'll be on the ticket. That would be the funniest upset of all time.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
• TACITLY (adverb) The adverb TACITLY has 1 sense: 1. in a tacit manner; by unexpressed agreement
That would be a pretty stupid question. He will NOT endorse McCain. If he does, show me and I'll eat my hat and disown Paul myself. Paul will not endorse him. A far better question is will Paul publicly disown McCain.
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That may well have played a role.
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I try to not ask stupid questions and it is rare to be accused of such.
The D and R parties already meet all the requirements--hell, they made the rules--so they're in the catbird seat and calling the shots that the underlings have to play. So, the underling not only has to cowtow to their rules, they then have to tackle all the media sources.......oh wait, they can't do that cause they've already expended all their funds trying to go over hurdles, through hoops, and jumping canyons established by the D & R system, via lawyers to understand each state, district, and territorial election laws, and filing papers, to be told they have to pay large 'entry' fees in addition to having a gazillion signatures-- all within a couple of weeks or so. And so they work like mad to get signatures, and as quickly as they're turned in, the process begins to knock every signature off the petitions as 'disallowed'. You see, there is a certain number of voters that have to petition the secretary of states office to get a person/party on a ballot......come up one approved name short, and you can't run in that state! Getting a few extra signatures isn't a guarantee, but a huge extra number of signatures can save the day. All that money is essentially pissed away because try raising campaign funds when you don't have the dough to send out more begging letters! THe D & R don't have this problem-- they're already secure and have databases of supporters to call upon at a moments notice.........as well as flocks of union workers to 'volunteer' time to man phone banks, etc. Ever hear of a union supporting a 3rd party candidate? Me neither. When I ran for office, I had to pay UP FRONT for any advertising--they wouldn't take my word for it that the bill would be paid. Imagine that.......advertising agencies want to get paid for making the ads, and then the radio, tv, or newspapers want to be paid to run the ads. Well, anyhow...........there's bundles to learn, we all can.........and we need to be supportive where possible of each other. Rowdee, Thank you for the excellent post. The machine in place is a steam roller. It gives only enough notice to get out of its way or be crushed. The point of RP's candidacy was to expose the steamroller. I think it did. But memories are short, and people won't look at who's driving the roller. ;) Now it's about using what we have learned and move forward. I know, the beatings will continue until morale improves.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
They offered to run it on the 7th, so no, that doesn't fly.
1. in a tacit manner; by unexpressed agreement Thank you.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
I guess today is a rare day.... :^)
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that was not a factor at all. they offered to run the ad on the 7th and we declined because we wanted the Sunday edition #s. we are satisfied, after having spoken with the ad manager and the editor, that it was a mistake made by an inept employee. we were issued an immediate refund too.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
"Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. "But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican." John McCain is a republican. I sent a lot of money Pauls way, with that in mind, I have the right to ask if he will support McCain openly or tacitly as he has done.
They offered to run it on the 7th, so no, that doesn't fly. Oh? And had we accepted, they definitely would have run it on the seventh without any more snafoos. Sure. They offered to run it on the 6th too. Right.
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There's still so much that can happen..... I remember back when George Wallace ran for the presidency, and he was gaining traction--until a gunman decided to change the course of history. I don't wish anything like that on anyone. Period. Not my nature. With that said, the Mchurian candidate could have a relapse with the cancer issue......or he could be swift-planed by veterans against him over the POW/MIA issues--these are my biggest negatives of him. Gurarantee that if he is the nominee, it will be all over the place how he did his first wife, after all she had done while he was a POW, and her serious injuries. Decent people didn't take kindly to Newtie treating his first wift like dirt by asking for a divorce as she lay in a hospital bed.......nor did they take kindly to news of Bob Dole's first wife.While I don't support the gop, the wimmen in the party seem to take a dimmer view of this sort of crap than the demos do. And it will be plastered all over the place about his wife's addiction to drugs. How could he not have known? The Dems will be sure to put it out in the news about how even his fellow senators think he's a loose cannon, unfit to be cic, i.e., Thad Cochran's comments re him. All of Hilary's crap has been out in the open for a long time--its old news........and obamasama seems like the 'clean cut guy'...... Yep.........lots of things could happen. Even with the Huckster.....which would open it back up to mitty and Paul.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
Okay, I'll leave it at that.
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When did you cultists develop mind reading capabilities?
Yep.........lots of things could happen. Even with the Huckster.....which would open it back up to mitty and Paul. The only odd thing I can think of at this time, is Mitts comment about 'suspending' his campaign. For some reason, I just thought McCain's pony ride is getting close to the end of the trail. Huck, has been plastered all over the tube lately. Something is definitely up with that. You're right... a lot could yet develop.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Go for it.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Human error on our part is fine. On RP's part means he's really an inside guy. Set your decoder ring accordingly.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
I did...No answer.
Well that's all the proof you need then. That must mean he endorsed McCain.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Many people put in lots of money and TIME in Ron Paul's campaign. You are not the only one.
You are not the only one. I am one who stuck up for Critter and the sheer hell we were putting him through, though he never complained a peep. Tons of input, but supporters, not so much. For all the crabbing about what a failure Ron Paul has been, the question is what did they do to help make him a success. There has to be some personal responsibility taken, and that is all I am getting at. A lot of people bitch but do nothing, and that's the only point. Some people can not, and that was all taken into consideration, as I made clear my donation was small. But working the message to suit the fight against McCain, who the PAPER endorsed was a key point. If we want to rehash all this fine with me. But to me, at this time, people crapping on Ron Paul's efforts do not place equal responsibility on their own efforts. Maybe it is, that he and we, have done all that we can. All that would be allowed. Saying that, then means, Ron Paul opened a door, it's up to the rest of us to keep it open. He can not do it alone, and none of us can either. If it is to be done, we are going to have to decide that it will be done, despite our petty differences. We have to decide. Can we set aside the bullshit, and work together, or be steamrolled forever. Otherwise, this was always an exercise in futility. Any momentum gained from this, will be quickly lost forever. Ron Paul himself said, he may not be the best messenger, but the message was sound.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
You're the one telling everybody what Ron's real motives are, Mr. Spock.
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LOL!
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Damn. I guess it's time to eat my hat!
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Just wait a day or two... perhaps we can set up a buffet. We should hire a photographer too.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
I dont recall saying that, however having given in good faith I would assume I also in good faith have some measure of right to ask what is going to done from this point on. Giving is a two way street, giving in blind faith is not for me.
Pep.... Most everyone can read. Sometimes reading the words without comprehension leaves one without what the author intended. Re read Pauls email a few times. I did. Several times. I have it printed out and hanging here in front of me. If the author of a book intends to make you cry and you dont, who failed? The author that made everyone else cry but not you, or perhaps you failed to comprehend. Whatever you do, dont let Pauls own words confuse you.
I understand your impression of "parties" given your background, but he's not more a "part of the problem" in staying in the GOP than you are "part of the problem" in staying in the United States. Afterall, you do pay many, many taxes which fund the beast's activities, whether it's bombing Iraq or paying the CIA & military agents that engage in torture. Am I wrong? Sure, Ron's in the GOP, but what the GOP is, is not in Ron. You'd prefer he depart the party that dispises him, thus making it's sickness more pure? I am sorry, my friend, but Ron Paul staying in the GOP is a vastly larger problem than me staying in the United States or me staying alive. Let's have some sense of proportions, should we? I am tired of having to repeat this over and over and over but his staying in the GOP only strengthens the GOP by feeding the illusion that the GOP 'bit tent' is the natural residence for libertarians. This is nothing new. The GOP is also feeding the illusion that it is the natural home for 'conservatives', 'Christians', sexually normal people and those who are financially responsible - all untruths, of course. The GOP, like the Demo party is nothing but a power Mafia. It seeks power for the sake of holding it and wielding it and the expressed GOP ideology is little more than an attempt to differentiate itself, on minor issues, from its Demo 'rival'. The fact that most people, even most intelligent people accept these illusions shows how good the illusionists working for 'both' parties happen to be. Does my 'background' have something to do with my understanding of how parties work in the US? Sure it does. Political science happens to be part of my background. I studied it in college and among my college buddies I count a prime minister, the prime minister's wife, a foreign minister, the equivalent of the US speaker of the house and a couple of ambassadors - so 'they' must have thought us something given that it worked quite well in the post-communist East Europe, in a country of tens of millions. I have a pretty good understanding of the US political system even though I will never involve myself in it. My understanding of the 2 party system is a bit more sophisticated and goes way beyond someone's belief that the 2 parties are nothing but machines or tools available to just about anyone who feels like getting himself nominated for some important elected job - if there was a mother of all naive views on how the US 2-party system works, this one would be a good candidate for the title. It IS true that I prefer that Ron Paul and all honest people quit the GOP party and leave only the sick and the monstrous there, all by themselves. All RP and other decent people do by staying in the GOP and the Demos is lending these evil organizations credibility and legitimacy and therefore helping them keep going for a while longer. These being said, if you read what I wrote on this thread, you would notice that I, in fact, salute RP for his decision to do what is good for him and for the people who elected him to represent them. I do not think that his staying in the GOP is a good thing but, clearly, it makes no sense for him to stay in the GOP race for nomination when everyone with a clear mind and their dog can see that he has zero chances to win that nomination. He should not have been in that race in the first place and I've been stating this for quite a while now.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
It sounds like politics never was and never will be your thing, vast. Well... it is true that, for ethical reasons, and this is a pledge I made while in college, I will never involve myself in politics, professionally. Now, as far as understanding of what's going on is concerned, I believe I did state BEFORE that nomination show started that: - RP will NOT win the GOP nomination I didn't comment on the more recent theories/schemes of RP prevailing in a 'brokered convention because that was so much 'out there' and some people were so passionately believing it it, I chose not to state to obvious because there was no need to hurt feelings. I may be mistaken but, I believe, I was right and I am right on all of the above. Aren't I? So, politics may not be 'my thing' and, I do admit that it is not but 'common sense' probably is.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Sounds like a smart move.
RPs motives are to remain a Republican and to keep his House seat safe. Again, those are his words. Tell me something, given that he is 72 years old, and has been in congress for more that 20 years, how do you students of Edgar Cayce explain his failure to groom a younger man/woman to replace him? After all even an heroic figure such as he is isn't immortal. Wouldn't a House legacy be something a 'revolutionary' would want?
Another major disagreement with RP is on term limits. You want to kill the parties? Imposing strict and SHORT term limits could help. One-term term limits are almost guaranteed to kill the parties.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I appreciate your comments on this thread. My overall feeling right now is ...what, a couple of namby pamby paragraphs and that's where the r3VOLution is going to be left by him? I sure gave him waaaaay too much credit.
Thanks for clueing me in. If the author of a book intends to make you cry and you dont, who failed? The author that made everyone else cry but not you, or perhaps you failed to comprehend. Whatever you do, dont let Pauls own words confuse you. Here are the facts. You have called yourself a conservative, not a Republican. The 'conservative' label has been hijacked, and does not mean what it once did. So what does that make you now? RP says he's a Republican. The Republican party has been hijacked, so what does that make him now? Either you are both true to what those labels used to stand for, and want to restore it's definition, or you have decided that there is one rule for you and a different one for him. It would seem to me, that is now entirely impossible to restore, and a new party should be formed. That said, why bother. With the rampant vote fraud, there is no chance of anyone, or any new party achieving anything for anyone but false hope. RP said from the beginning he was running as a Republican, and now, it seems, you did not take him at his word.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Good point. RP is obviously against term limits, at least personally.
Ah....a Republican House member who reached his political zenith 20 years ago.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestYour point is that he wasn't there for one little bitty primary.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#228. To: christine (#121)
ok, Neil, for me, RP's declaration that he and his campaign concluded that vote fraud in NH didn't effect his results there did it for me. vote fraud was proven there and in the subsequent primaries. imo, that should have been his mantra--especially when he knew that he couldn't possibly secure the GOP nomination because of it. i just couldn't and can't get past that.
#229. To: Peppa (#225)
#230. To: Cynicom (#226)
placed the ad. The editor after the fact read it to me verbatim at 11.30 PM on the 6th. Without the ad in hand she would have had zero knowledge. The ad manager was called after midnight for information and the errant employee could not be contacted.
#231. To: Peppa (#230)
#232. To: Cynicom (#205)
I would like to ask Paul that question, as a republican, will he endorse McCain.
#233. To: FormerLurker (#206)
with some of the posts that are made here concerning Jews and stuff, who knows.
#234. To: Pinguinite (#232)
That would be a pretty stupid question.
#235. To: rowdee (#229)
And it is that playing the game in the present boundaries that pisses us all off--it is so frustrating. But the D & R set those campaign laws in place so as to have a corner, or lock, on the marketplace of political representation. And this is D & R at federal and AT STATE LEVEL.
#236. To: Pinguinite (#233)
That may well have played a role.
#237. To: Cynicom (#231)
• TACITLY (adverb) The adverb TACITLY has 1 sense:
#238. To: Cynicom (#234)
#239. To: FormerLurker, Pinguinite (#206)
Perhaps the paper checked the site and had problems with running an ad from our 4um, with some of the posts that are made here concerning Jews and stuff, who knows.
#240. To: Peppa (#237)
#241. To: Jethro Tull (#236)
#242. To: Peppa (#235)
#243. To: christine (#239)
we are satisfied, after having spoken with the ad manager and the editor, that it was a mistake made by an inept employee. we were issued an immediate refund too.
#244. To: Pinguinite (#241)
Oh? And had we accepted, they definitely would have run it on the seventh without any more snafoos. Sure.
#245. To: rowdee (#242)
All of Hilary's crap has been out in the open for a long time--its old news........and obamasama seems like the 'clean cut guy'......
#246. To: Cynicom (#240)
John McCain is a republican. I sent a lot of money Pauls way, with that in mind, I have the right to ask if he will support McCain openly or tacitly as he has done.
#247. To: Pinguinite (#243)
Okay, I'll leave it at that.
#248. To: Peppa (#246)
Go for it.
#249. To: Cynicom (#248)
I did...No answer.
#250. To: Peppa, _______, Cynicom (#246)
#251. To: TwentyTwelve (#250)
Many people put in lots of money and TIME in Ron Paul's campaign.
#252. To: Jethro Tull (#244)
When did you cultists develop mind reading capabilities?
#253. To: Pinguinite (#252)
You're the one telling everybody what Ron's real motives are, Mr. Spock.
#254. To: Peppa (#249)
That must mean he endorsed McCain.
#255. To: Pinguinite (#254)
Damn. I guess it's time to eat my hat!
#256. To: TwentyTwelve (#250)
You are not the only one.
#257. To: Peppa (#249)
That must mean he endorsed McCain.
#258. To: Pinguinite (#77)
Wrong.
#259. To: Pinguinite (#87)
Given the current availability of post-teen virgins, is it really worth wasting your time re-transforming a diseased whore?
- RP will NOT win one single state
- RP's seeking to be nominated by the party of war, mass killing and other evils is as ridiculous as him seeking the nomination of the Nazi party
- The theory/scheme that RP's supporters were going to hijack the GOP primaries and caucuses because they were 'more motivated' was BS and was not going to work
#260. To: IndieTX (#183)
To hell with the city's "match" when I'm 65
#261. To: Pinguinite, students of Edgar Cayce, all (#252)
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You're the one telling everybody what Ron's real motives are, Mr. Spock.
#262. To: Jethro Tull (#261)
#263. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
#264. To: Cynicom (#257)
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Pep.... Most everyone can read.
#265. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#262)
#266. To: Peppa (#207)
This argument is not about RP the "republican", its about murdering off hope.
#267. To: Peppa (#264)
The Republican party has been hijacked, so what does that make him now?
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