[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

The INCREDIBLE Impacts of Methylene Blue The LARGEST Eruptions since the Merapi Disaster in 2010 at Lewotobi Laki Laki in Indonesia Feds ARREST 11 Leftists For AMBUSH On ICE, 2 Cops Shot, Organized Terror Cell Targeted ICE In Texas What is quantum computing? 12 Important Questions We Should Be Asking About The Cover Up The Truth About Jeffrey Epstein TSA quietly scraps security check that every passenger dreads Iran Receives Emergency Airlift of Chinese Air Defence Systems as Israel Considers New Attacks Russia reportedly used its new, inexpensive Chernika kamikaze drone in the Ukraine Iran's President Says the US Pledged Israel Wouldn't Attack During Previous Nuclear Negotiations Will Japan's Rice Price Shock Lead To Government Collapse And Spark A Global Bond Crisis Beware The 'Omniwar': Catherine Austin Fitts Fears 'Weaponization Of Everything' Roger Stone: AG Pam Bondi Must Answer For 14 Terabytes Claim Of Child Torture Videos! 'Hit Us, Please' - America's Left Issues A 'Broken Arrow' Signal To Europe Cash Jordan Trump Deports ‘Thousands of Migrants’ to Africa… on Purpose Gunman Ambushes Border Patrol Agents In Texas Amid Anti-ICE Rhetoric From Democrats Texas Flood Why America Built A Forest From Canada To Texas Tucker Carlson Interviews President of Iran Mosoud Pezeshkian PROOF Netanyahu Wants US To Fight His Wars RAPID CRUSTAL MOVEMENT DETECTED- Are the Unusual Earthquakes TRIGGER for MORE (in Japan and Italy) ? Google Bets Big On Nuclear Fusion Iran sets a world record by deporting 300,000 illegal refugees in 14 days Brazilian Women Soccer Players (in Bikinis) Incredible Skills Watch: Mexico City Protest Against American Ex-Pat 'Invasion' Turns Viole Kazakhstan Just BETRAYED Russia - Takes gunpowder out of Putin’s Hands Why CNN & Fareed Zakaria are Wrong About Iran and Trump Something Is Going Deeply WRONG In Russia 329 Rivers in China Exceed Flood Warnings, With 75,000 Dams in Critical Condition Command Of Russian Army 'Undermined' After 16 Of Putin's Generals Killed At War, UK Says Rickards: Superintelligence Will Never Arrive

Ron Paul
See other Ron Paul Articles

Title: Message from Ron [he's a GOP through and through, will ease on prez campaigning]
Source: Ron Paul 2008
URL Source: http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/ron_ ... 8/2008/02/message-from-ro.html
Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2008-02-09 08:26:19 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 6614
Comments: 315

Message from Ron

Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well.

Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican.

I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen.

In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me.

Sincerely,

Ron

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  

That must mean he endorsed McCain.

Damn. I guess it's time to eat my hat!

Pinguinite.com EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   0:03:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Damn. I guess it's time to eat my hat!

Just wait a day or two... perhaps we can set up a buffet. We should hire a photographer too.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   0:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are not the only one.

I dont recall saying that, however having given in good faith I would assume I also in good faith have some measure of right to ask what is going to done from this point on.

Giving is a two way street, giving in blind faith is not for me.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   5:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That must mean he endorsed McCain.

Pep.... Most everyone can read.

Sometimes reading the words without comprehension leaves one without what the author intended.

Re read Pauls email a few times. I did. Several times. I have it printed out and hanging here in front of me.

If the author of a book intends to make you cry and you dont, who failed? The author that made everyone else cry but not you, or perhaps you failed to comprehend. Whatever you do, dont let Pauls own words confuse you.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   5:34:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Wrong.

I understand your impression of "parties" given your background, but he's not more a "part of the problem" in staying in the GOP than you are "part of the problem" in staying in the United States. Afterall, you do pay many, many taxes which fund the beast's activities, whether it's bombing Iraq or paying the CIA & military agents that engage in torture. Am I wrong?

Sure, Ron's in the GOP, but what the GOP is, is not in Ron. You'd prefer he depart the party that dispises him, thus making it's sickness more pure?

I am sorry, my friend, but Ron Paul staying in the GOP is a vastly larger problem than me staying in the United States or me staying alive. Let's have some sense of proportions, should we?

I am tired of having to repeat this over and over and over but his staying in the GOP only strengthens the GOP by feeding the illusion that the GOP 'bit tent' is the natural residence for libertarians. This is nothing new. The GOP is also feeding the illusion that it is the natural home for 'conservatives', 'Christians', sexually normal people and those who are financially responsible - all untruths, of course. The GOP, like the Demo party is nothing but a power Mafia. It seeks power for the sake of holding it and wielding it and the expressed GOP ideology is little more than an attempt to differentiate itself, on minor issues, from its Demo 'rival'. The fact that most people, even most intelligent people accept these illusions shows how good the illusionists working for 'both' parties happen to be.

Does my 'background' have something to do with my understanding of how parties work in the US? Sure it does. Political science happens to be part of my background. I studied it in college and among my college buddies I count a prime minister, the prime minister's wife, a foreign minister, the equivalent of the US speaker of the house and a couple of ambassadors - so 'they' must have thought us something given that it worked quite well in the post-communist East Europe, in a country of tens of millions. I have a pretty good understanding of the US political system even though I will never involve myself in it. My understanding of the 2 party system is a bit more sophisticated and goes way beyond someone's belief that the 2 parties are nothing but machines or tools available to just about anyone who feels like getting himself nominated for some important elected job - if there was a mother of all naive views on how the US 2-party system works, this one would be a good candidate for the title.

It IS true that I prefer that Ron Paul and all honest people quit the GOP party and leave only the sick and the monstrous there, all by themselves. All RP and other decent people do by staying in the GOP and the Demos is lending these evil organizations credibility and legitimacy and therefore helping them keep going for a while longer.

These being said, if you read what I wrote on this thread, you would notice that I, in fact, salute RP for his decision to do what is good for him and for the people who elected him to represent them. I do not think that his staying in the GOP is a good thing but, clearly, it makes no sense for him to stay in the GOP race for nomination when everyone with a clear mind and their dog can see that he has zero chances to win that nomination. He should not have been in that race in the first place and I've been stating this for quite a while now.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-10   8:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Given the current availability of post-teen virgins, is it really worth wasting your time re-transforming a diseased whore?

It sounds like politics never was and never will be your thing, vast.

Well... it is true that, for ethical reasons, and this is a pledge I made while in college, I will never involve myself in politics, professionally.

Now, as far as understanding of what's going on is concerned, I believe I did state BEFORE that nomination show started that:

- RP will NOT win the GOP nomination
- RP will NOT win one single state
- RP's seeking to be nominated by the party of war, mass killing and other evils is as ridiculous as him seeking the nomination of the Nazi party
- The theory/scheme that RP's supporters were going to hijack the GOP primaries and caucuses because they were 'more motivated' was BS and was not going to work

I didn't comment on the more recent theories/schemes of RP prevailing in a 'brokered convention because that was so much 'out there' and some people were so passionately believing it it, I chose not to state to obvious because there was no need to hurt feelings.

I may be mistaken but, I believe, I was right and I am right on all of the above. Aren't I? So, politics may not be 'my thing' and, I do admit that it is not but 'common sense' probably is.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-10   9:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To hell with the city's "match" when I'm 65

Sounds like a smart move.

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   9:18:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're the one telling everybody what Ron's real motives are, Mr. Spock.

RPs motives are to remain a Republican and to keep his House seat safe. Again, those are his words. Tell me something, given that he is 72 years old, and has been in congress for more that 20 years, how do you students of Edgar Cayce explain his failure to groom a younger man/woman to replace him? After all even an heroic figure such as he is isn't immortal. Wouldn't a House legacy be something a 'revolutionary' would want?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-10   9:26:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Another major disagreement with RP is on term limits.

You want to kill the parties? Imposing strict and SHORT term limits could help. One-term term limits are almost guaranteed to kill the parties.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-10   9:30:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I appreciate your comments on this thread. My overall feeling right now is ...what, a couple of namby pamby paragraphs and that's where the r3VOLution is going to be left by him? I sure gave him waaaaay too much credit.

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   9:32:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Pep.... Most everyone can read.

Thanks for clueing me in.

If the author of a book intends to make you cry and you dont, who failed? The author that made everyone else cry but not you, or perhaps you failed to comprehend. Whatever you do, dont let Pauls own words confuse you.

Here are the facts. You have called yourself a conservative, not a Republican. The 'conservative' label has been hijacked, and does not mean what it once did. So what does that make you now? RP says he's a Republican. The Republican party has been hijacked, so what does that make him now? Either you are both true to what those labels used to stand for, and want to restore it's definition, or you have decided that there is one rule for you and a different one for him.

It would seem to me, that is now entirely impossible to restore, and a new party should be formed. That said, why bother. With the rampant vote fraud, there is no chance of anyone, or any new party achieving anything for anyone but false hope.

RP said from the beginning he was running as a Republican, and now, it seems, you did not take him at his word.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   9:34:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Good point. RP is obviously against term limits, at least personally.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-10   9:36:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This argument is not about RP the "republican", its about murdering off hope.

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   9:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The Republican party has been hijacked, so what does that make him now?

Ah....a Republican House member who reached his political zenith 20 years ago.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-10   9:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

With the rampant vote fraud, there is no chance of anyone, or any new party achieving anything for anyone but false hope.

So now what?

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   9:41:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ah....a Republican House member who reached his political zenith 20 years ago.

By extention then anyone who is a conservative is the same?

How does that explain the tremendous youth support of Ron Paul?

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   9:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Whatever you do, dont let Pauls own words confuse you.

Damn right they confuse me because what he held out in his hand belies what his words are saying.

What now?

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   9:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So now what?

Heck if I know. Wait for the thunder I guess.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   9:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

How does that explain the tremendous youth support of Ron Paul?

He represented the message of hope and change.

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   9:47:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You just said the word conservative has been hijacked, I agree so lets agree to dump it in the crapper. Search for a new label for yourself if you care to, I identify as an American First national. As far as RPs "tremendous youth support" it failed to show up in the primary numbers, but then again thanks to fraud we'll never know his true support.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-10   9:47:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I identify as an American First national.

An American First national. I like it.

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   9:48:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He represented the message of hope and change.

Agreed. The young did not care about the label, they cared about the message.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   9:51:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

T/Y angle. I'd exclude any ex-pates who espouse whats best for America from the safety of their coconut tree.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-10   9:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You just said the word conservative has been hijacked, I agree so lets agree to dump it in the crapper.

If John McCain is a conservative by anyone's definition, I think that's proof enough for me.

Search for a new label for yourself if you care to,

I wasn't hung up on them to begin with. Why don't we have a big 'party hat' bonfire first, and see who can part with them.

I identify as an American First national.

You don't have a Bank do you? ;) Perhaps we don't need Party Machines at all. A bunch of people get up, state their views, debate each other, and let the people vote for the person. Screw the parties.

As far as RPs "tremendous youth support" it failed to show up in the primary numbers, but then again thanks to fraud we'll never know his true support.

Just because they weren't counted doesn't mean they don't exist. Witness here, many who gave up on the vote process but still remain in love with their affiliation. So, it's a hard thing to measure with any amount of science sprinkled in.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   9:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here are the facts. You have called yourself a conservative, not a Republican.

Here are the facts....

I have never belonged to ANY party. Even registered communist once.

I WAS a conservative until the Trotskyites hi jacked that label.

Since arrival of Bush, I am now an American.

Now you have to start over again. hehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   10:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

RPs motives are to remain a Republican and to keep his House seat safe. Again, those are his words. Tell me something, given that he is 72 years old, and has been in congress for more that 20 years, how do you students of Edgar Cayce explain his failure to groom a younger man/woman to replace him? After all even an heroic figure such as he is isn't immortal. Wouldn't a House legacy be something a 'revolutionary' would want?

Jethro...

Damn.

Sometimes I suspect you are an intellectual hiding under a cops hat. Better be careful others may catch on.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   10:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think a few of us in this place have common enough ground to be involved in a like cause. Perhaps some personal contact information and meeting at some point would give a spark to something. Or at the very least could hook up people who might need like minded support in the days ahead. Spooks need to be filtered out somehow.

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   10:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ronpaulvotecount.com

Washington State results...30 second clip...very informative.

Click Here: www.youtube.com/watch? v=A2yCF0k6Bng

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   10:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you really think the broken and corrupted government can be fixed?

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   10:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Now you have to start over again. hehehehehehe

I don't think so. Again, you run from your own words. That's your battle, not mine.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   10:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think a few of us in this place have common enough ground to be involved in a like cause. Perhaps some personal contact information and meeting at some point would give a spark to something. Or at the very least could hook up people who might need like minded support in the days ahead. Spooks need to be filtered out somehow.

I don't think there is enough trust left for anything.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   10:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That's your battle, not mine.

Is too.

I am like an onion. I am thin skinned and it is easy to get under. However, there is another layer, and another and another. I am not going to tell you what the part at the center is called, you have to find out on your own.

I received my Phd from UHN because I earned it, the old fashioned way. I knew how to read, they taught me how to comprehend. Seeeeeeeeeeee.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   10:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you really think the broken and corrupted government can be fixed?

NO........

If you go back to the Civil War...The South adopted our original Constitution, with some changes. They were smarter than the Yankees. They foresaw what was happening to the government and instituted TERM LIMITS way back then.

They saw the ambitious power loving lifetime politicians crawling out of the woodwork. President, one term, six years and so long loser. The smarter Yankees took another hundred years and FDR to realize there was a problem. Even then we did not get it right, we have people running for office their second term the day their first term starts. That is why the South stopped that BS.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   10:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Flatbush Ave. Academy, Magna Cum Laude, class of '67.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-10   10:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have questioned your claim about the Confederate Constitution instituting term limits before, and you did not give me a satisfactory answer.

Apart from the limitation of the President to one six-year term in Article II Section 1(1) of the Confederate Constitution, I do not see term limits in the document. If I am mistaken, perhaps you would be kind enough to point out the provision that does this, and its placement in the document?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-02-10   10:45:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have questioned your claim about the Confederate Constitution instituting term limits before, and you did not give me a satisfactory answer.

Ari...same answer applies.

You have to research it. I post from memory. If I recalled everything I have ever read, I would not be wasting my time here.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   10:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jethro...

I wont tell on you. Just use more caution when posting, some people do read and see what is unspoken.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   10:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I just looked at the document, and see no such provision.

I invite anyone on this forum who can point out such a provision in the Confederate Constitution to do so. I do not believe there is any such provision.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-02-10   10:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I just looked at the document, and see no such provision.

Are you intimating I am of unsound mind?????

I was doing your research for you, again, and could not find limits per House etc.

I DID however refresh my memory that the VP could be elected for life. Now of course, you will tell me you always knew that. sigh...

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   11:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

your #s 258 and 259 so very well reasoned.

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-10   11:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Comments (294 - 315) not displayed.

Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]