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Title: Message from Ron [he's a GOP through and through, will ease on prez campaigning]
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Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2008-02-09 08:26:19 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Message from Ron Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well. Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican. I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen. In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me. Sincerely, Ron
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#261. To: Pinguinite, students of Edgar Cayce, all (#252)
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RPs motives are to remain a Republican and to keep his House seat safe. Again, those are his words. Tell me something, given that he is 72 years old, and has been in congress for more that 20 years, how do you students of Edgar Cayce explain his failure to groom a younger man/woman to replace him? After all even an heroic figure such as he is isn't immortal. Wouldn't a House legacy be something a 'revolutionary' would want?
Another major disagreement with RP is on term limits. You want to kill the parties? Imposing strict and SHORT term limits could help. One-term term limits are almost guaranteed to kill the parties.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I appreciate your comments on this thread. My overall feeling right now is ...what, a couple of namby pamby paragraphs and that's where the r3VOLution is going to be left by him? I sure gave him waaaaay too much credit.
Thanks for clueing me in. If the author of a book intends to make you cry and you dont, who failed? The author that made everyone else cry but not you, or perhaps you failed to comprehend. Whatever you do, dont let Pauls own words confuse you. Here are the facts. You have called yourself a conservative, not a Republican. The 'conservative' label has been hijacked, and does not mean what it once did. So what does that make you now? RP says he's a Republican. The Republican party has been hijacked, so what does that make him now? Either you are both true to what those labels used to stand for, and want to restore it's definition, or you have decided that there is one rule for you and a different one for him. It would seem to me, that is now entirely impossible to restore, and a new party should be formed. That said, why bother. With the rampant vote fraud, there is no chance of anyone, or any new party achieving anything for anyone but false hope. RP said from the beginning he was running as a Republican, and now, it seems, you did not take him at his word.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Good point. RP is obviously against term limits, at least personally.
Ah....a Republican House member who reached his political zenith 20 years ago.
So now what?
By extention then anyone who is a conservative is the same? How does that explain the tremendous youth support of Ron Paul?
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Damn right they confuse me because what he held out in his hand belies what his words are saying. What now?
Heck if I know. Wait for the thunder I guess.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
He represented the message of hope and change.
You just said the word conservative has been hijacked, I agree so lets agree to dump it in the crapper. Search for a new label for yourself if you care to, I identify as an American First national. As far as RPs "tremendous youth support" it failed to show up in the primary numbers, but then again thanks to fraud we'll never know his true support.
An American First national. I like it.
Agreed. The young did not care about the label, they cared about the message.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
T/Y angle. I'd exclude any ex-pates who espouse whats best for America from the safety of their coconut tree.
If John McCain is a conservative by anyone's definition, I think that's proof enough for me. Search for a new label for yourself if you care to, I wasn't hung up on them to begin with. Why don't we have a big 'party hat' bonfire first, and see who can part with them. I identify as an American First national. You don't have a Bank do you? ;) Perhaps we don't need Party Machines at all. A bunch of people get up, state their views, debate each other, and let the people vote for the person. Screw the parties. As far as RPs "tremendous youth support" it failed to show up in the primary numbers, but then again thanks to fraud we'll never know his true support. Just because they weren't counted doesn't mean they don't exist. Witness here, many who gave up on the vote process but still remain in love with their affiliation. So, it's a hard thing to measure with any amount of science sprinkled in.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Here are the facts.... I have never belonged to ANY party. Even registered communist once. I WAS a conservative until the Trotskyites hi jacked that label. Since arrival of Bush, I am now an American. Now you have to start over again. hehehehehehe
Jethro... Damn. Sometimes I suspect you are an intellectual hiding under a cops hat. Better be careful others may catch on.
I think a few of us in this place have common enough ground to be involved in a like cause. Perhaps some personal contact information and meeting at some point would give a spark to something. Or at the very least could hook up people who might need like minded support in the days ahead. Spooks need to be filtered out somehow.
Washington State results...30 second clip...very informative. Click Here: www.youtube.com/watch? v=A2yCF0k6Bng
Do you really think the broken and corrupted government can be fixed?
Now you have to start over again. hehehehehehe I don't think so. Again, you run from your own words. That's your battle, not mine.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
I don't think there is enough trust left for anything.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
Is too. I am like an onion. I am thin skinned and it is easy to get under. However, there is another layer, and another and another. I am not going to tell you what the part at the center is called, you have to find out on your own. I received my Phd from UHN because I earned it, the old fashioned way. I knew how to read, they taught me how to comprehend. Seeeeeeeeeeee.
NO........ If you go back to the Civil War...The South adopted our original Constitution, with some changes. They were smarter than the Yankees. They foresaw what was happening to the government and instituted TERM LIMITS way back then. They saw the ambitious power loving lifetime politicians crawling out of the woodwork. President, one term, six years and so long loser. The smarter Yankees took another hundred years and FDR to realize there was a problem. Even then we did not get it right, we have people running for office their second term the day their first term starts. That is why the South stopped that BS.
Flatbush Ave. Academy, Magna Cum Laude, class of '67.
I have questioned your claim about the Confederate Constitution instituting term limits before, and you did not give me a satisfactory answer. Apart from the limitation of the President to one six-year term in Article II Section 1(1) of the Confederate Constitution, I do not see term limits in the document. If I am mistaken, perhaps you would be kind enough to point out the provision that does this, and its placement in the document?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Ari...same answer applies. You have to research it. I post from memory. If I recalled everything I have ever read, I would not be wasting my time here.
Jethro... I wont tell on you. Just use more caution when posting, some people do read and see what is unspoken.
I just looked at the document, and see no such provision. I invite anyone on this forum who can point out such a provision in the Confederate Constitution to do so. I do not believe there is any such provision.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Are you intimating I am of unsound mind????? I was doing your research for you, again, and could not find limits per House etc. I DID however refresh my memory that the VP could be elected for life. Now of course, you will tell me you always knew that. sigh...
your #s 258 and 259 so very well reasoned.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
Tell Ari and Pep to stop picking on this olde man or you will take a stick to them. Tell 'em good.
I think you are saying my #288 (my first posting on this thread) is absolutely correct. If it is not, perhaps you would point out my mistake, and cite the relevant provision.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Ari... See my 294.
Absolutely correct????? Certainly not. Absolute leaves me no wiggle room. I would never agree you are correct about anything.
I notice you don't point out any mistake in my #288.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
How can I???? Without proper research, I would be agreeing with you (never) and I wont let that happen until I have exhausted every possible source of affirmation. I expect to be duly vindicated. So there.
Click Here: www.youtube.com/watch? v=A2yCF0k6Bng Thanks Angle, Went for a little coffee break there. BTW, have we gotten to naming Ron Paul the Anti-Christ yet?
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestYou're the one telling everybody what Ron's real motives are, Mr. Spock.
#262. To: Jethro Tull (#261)
#263. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
#264. To: Cynicom (#257)
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Pep.... Most everyone can read.
#265. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#262)
#266. To: Peppa (#207)
This argument is not about RP the "republican", its about murdering off hope.
#267. To: Peppa (#264)
The Republican party has been hijacked, so what does that make him now?
#268. To: Peppa (#264)
With the rampant vote fraud, there is no chance of anyone, or any new party achieving anything for anyone but false hope.
#269. To: Jethro Tull (#267)
Ah....a Republican House member who reached his political zenith 20 years ago.
#270. To: Cynicom (#257)
Whatever you do, dont let Pauls own words confuse you.
#271. To: angle (#268)
So now what?
#272. To: Peppa (#269)
How does that explain the tremendous youth support of Ron Paul?
#273. To: Peppa (#269)
#274. To: Jethro Tull (#273)
I identify as an American First national.
#275. To: angle (#272)
He represented the message of hope and change.
#276. To: angle (#274)
#277. To: Jethro Tull (#273)
You just said the word conservative has been hijacked, I agree so lets agree to dump it in the crapper.
#278. To: Peppa (#264)
Here are the facts. You have called yourself a conservative, not a Republican.
#279. To: Jethro Tull (#261)
RPs motives are to remain a Republican and to keep his House seat safe. Again, those are his words. Tell me something, given that he is 72 years old, and has been in congress for more that 20 years, how do you students of Edgar Cayce explain his failure to groom a younger man/woman to replace him? After all even an heroic figure such as he is isn't immortal. Wouldn't a House legacy be something a 'revolutionary' would want?
#280. To: Peppa (#277)
#281. To: peppa (#280)
ronpaulvotecount.com
#282. To: Cynicom (#279)
#283. To: Cynicom (#278)
#284. To: angle (#280)
I think a few of us in this place have common enough ground to be involved in a like cause. Perhaps some personal contact information and meeting at some point would give a spark to something. Or at the very least could hook up people who might need like minded support in the days ahead. Spooks need to be filtered out somehow.
#285. To: Peppa (#283)
That's your battle, not mine.
#286. To: angle (#282)
Do you really think the broken and corrupted government can be fixed?
#287. To: Cynicom (#279)
#288. To: Cynicom (#286)
#289. To: aristeides (#288)
I have questioned your claim about the Confederate Constitution instituting term limits before, and you did not give me a satisfactory answer.
#290. To: Jethro Tull (#287)
#291. To: Cynicom (#289)
#292. To: aristeides (#291)
I just looked at the document, and see no such provision.
#293. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#259)
#294. To: christine (#293)
#295. To: Cynicom (#292)
#296. To: Cynicom (#294)
You talking to me?
#297. To: aristeides (#295)
#298. To: aristeides (#295)
#299. To: Cynicom (#298)
#300. To: aristeides (#299)
I notice you don't point out any mistake in my #288.
#301. To: angle (#281)
ronpaulvotecount.com Washington State results...30 second clip...very informative.
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