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Title: Message from Ron [he's a GOP through and through, will ease on prez campaigning]
Source: Ron Paul 2008
URL Source: http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/ron_ ... 8/2008/02/message-from-ro.html
Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Ron Paul
Post Date: 2008-02-09 08:26:19 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 6548
Comments: 315

Message from Ron

Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well.

Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican.

I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen.

In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me.

Sincerely,

Ron

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#276. To: angle (#274)

T/Y angle. I'd exclude any ex-pates who espouse whats best for America from the safety of their coconut tree.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-10   9:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: Jethro Tull (#273)

You just said the word conservative has been hijacked, I agree so lets agree to dump it in the crapper.

If John McCain is a conservative by anyone's definition, I think that's proof enough for me.

Search for a new label for yourself if you care to,

I wasn't hung up on them to begin with. Why don't we have a big 'party hat' bonfire first, and see who can part with them.

I identify as an American First national.

You don't have a Bank do you? ;) Perhaps we don't need Party Machines at all. A bunch of people get up, state their views, debate each other, and let the people vote for the person. Screw the parties.

As far as RPs "tremendous youth support" it failed to show up in the primary numbers, but then again thanks to fraud we'll never know his true support.

Just because they weren't counted doesn't mean they don't exist. Witness here, many who gave up on the vote process but still remain in love with their affiliation. So, it's a hard thing to measure with any amount of science sprinkled in.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   9:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: Peppa (#264)

Here are the facts. You have called yourself a conservative, not a Republican.

Here are the facts....

I have never belonged to ANY party. Even registered communist once.

I WAS a conservative until the Trotskyites hi jacked that label.

Since arrival of Bush, I am now an American.

Now you have to start over again. hehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   10:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: Jethro Tull (#261)

RPs motives are to remain a Republican and to keep his House seat safe. Again, those are his words. Tell me something, given that he is 72 years old, and has been in congress for more that 20 years, how do you students of Edgar Cayce explain his failure to groom a younger man/woman to replace him? After all even an heroic figure such as he is isn't immortal. Wouldn't a House legacy be something a 'revolutionary' would want?

Jethro...

Damn.

Sometimes I suspect you are an intellectual hiding under a cops hat. Better be careful others may catch on.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   10:09:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: Peppa (#277)

I think a few of us in this place have common enough ground to be involved in a like cause. Perhaps some personal contact information and meeting at some point would give a spark to something. Or at the very least could hook up people who might need like minded support in the days ahead. Spooks need to be filtered out somehow.

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   10:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: peppa (#280)

ronpaulvotecount.com

Washington State results...30 second clip...very informative.

Click Here: www.youtube.com/watch? v=A2yCF0k6Bng

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   10:16:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: Cynicom (#279)

Do you really think the broken and corrupted government can be fixed?

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   10:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: Cynicom (#278)

Now you have to start over again. hehehehehehe

I don't think so. Again, you run from your own words. That's your battle, not mine.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   10:18:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: angle (#280)

I think a few of us in this place have common enough ground to be involved in a like cause. Perhaps some personal contact information and meeting at some point would give a spark to something. Or at the very least could hook up people who might need like minded support in the days ahead. Spooks need to be filtered out somehow.

I don't think there is enough trust left for anything.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   10:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: Peppa (#283)

That's your battle, not mine.

Is too.

I am like an onion. I am thin skinned and it is easy to get under. However, there is another layer, and another and another. I am not going to tell you what the part at the center is called, you have to find out on your own.

I received my Phd from UHN because I earned it, the old fashioned way. I knew how to read, they taught me how to comprehend. Seeeeeeeeeeee.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   10:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: angle (#282)

Do you really think the broken and corrupted government can be fixed?

NO........

If you go back to the Civil War...The South adopted our original Constitution, with some changes. They were smarter than the Yankees. They foresaw what was happening to the government and instituted TERM LIMITS way back then.

They saw the ambitious power loving lifetime politicians crawling out of the woodwork. President, one term, six years and so long loser. The smarter Yankees took another hundred years and FDR to realize there was a problem. Even then we did not get it right, we have people running for office their second term the day their first term starts. That is why the South stopped that BS.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   10:33:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: Cynicom (#279)

Flatbush Ave. Academy, Magna Cum Laude, class of '67.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-10   10:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#288. To: Cynicom (#286)

I have questioned your claim about the Confederate Constitution instituting term limits before, and you did not give me a satisfactory answer.

Apart from the limitation of the President to one six-year term in Article II Section 1(1) of the Confederate Constitution, I do not see term limits in the document. If I am mistaken, perhaps you would be kind enough to point out the provision that does this, and its placement in the document?

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-02-10   10:45:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#289. To: aristeides (#288)

I have questioned your claim about the Confederate Constitution instituting term limits before, and you did not give me a satisfactory answer.

Ari...same answer applies.

You have to research it. I post from memory. If I recalled everything I have ever read, I would not be wasting my time here.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   10:48:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#290. To: Jethro Tull (#287)

Jethro...

I wont tell on you. Just use more caution when posting, some people do read and see what is unspoken.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   10:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#291. To: Cynicom (#289)

I just looked at the document, and see no such provision.

I invite anyone on this forum who can point out such a provision in the Confederate Constitution to do so. I do not believe there is any such provision.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-02-10   10:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#292. To: aristeides (#291)

I just looked at the document, and see no such provision.

Are you intimating I am of unsound mind?????

I was doing your research for you, again, and could not find limits per House etc.

I DID however refresh my memory that the VP could be elected for life. Now of course, you will tell me you always knew that. sigh...

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   11:02:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#293. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#259)

your #s 258 and 259 so very well reasoned.

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-10   11:02:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#294. To: christine (#293)

Tell Ari and Pep to stop picking on this olde man or you will take a stick to them. Tell 'em good.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   11:07:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#295. To: Cynicom (#292)

I think you are saying my #288 (my first posting on this thread) is absolutely correct.

If it is not, perhaps you would point out my mistake, and cite the relevant provision.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-02-10   11:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#296. To: Cynicom (#294)


You talking to me?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-10   11:10:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#297. To: aristeides (#295)

Ari...

See my 294.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   11:14:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#298. To: aristeides (#295)

Absolutely correct?????

Certainly not. Absolute leaves me no wiggle room. I would never agree you are correct about anything.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   11:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#299. To: Cynicom (#298)

I notice you don't point out any mistake in my #288.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-02-10   11:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#300. To: aristeides (#299)

I notice you don't point out any mistake in my #288.

How can I???? Without proper research, I would be agreeing with you (never) and I wont let that happen until I have exhausted every possible source of affirmation.

I expect to be duly vindicated. So there.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   11:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#301. To: angle (#281)

ronpaulvotecount.com Washington State results...30 second clip...very informative.

Click Here: www.youtube.com/watch? v=A2yCF0k6Bng

Thanks Angle,

Went for a little coffee break there.

BTW, have we gotten to naming Ron Paul the Anti-Christ yet?

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   11:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#302. To: Peppa (#301)

BTW, have we gotten to naming Ron Paul the Anti-Christ yet?

Your humor is duly noted. hehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   11:28:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#303. To: Cynicom (#285)

I think you need to work on your reading skills Cyni.

As for your choclatey center, I don't really care to get any closer to it. But if you feel the need to bust out in song about it again, feel free.

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed." -- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865) 16th US President Source: shortly before his assassination

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   11:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#304. To: Cynicom (#256)

Giving is a two way street, giving in blind faith is not for me.

Did you make that clear to the Paul campaign, Cyni--that you want an accounting or that you want him to play the game your way, say the things you want to hear your way, or ??????

I reckon people have different motives for giving. I hope I have the good sense to realize that had my daughter's life been on the line re my selecting Paul as the person who best meets my desires in a president, I'd certainly not have been a betting person. I would hope I have enough sense to realize it was a long shot chance at restoring the republic, or at least getting the ball rolling in that direction. It was that chance for the future that I was/am donating for.

I have a different idea of what giving is, or means. I suggest that it means 'freely and without expectation of something in return' is what giving is all about, whether it is a Christmas gift, or a gift to a campaign.

The only expectations that I have is that the campaigner will live up to his/her words...I don't like giving anything (well, maybe the 'eagle' salute) to liars.

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!

rowdee  posted on  2008-02-10   11:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#305. To: Peppa (#303)

I think you need to work on your reading skills Cyni.

Coffee break my eye...

You were trying to google to find out what the center of an onion is called. Admit it.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   11:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#306. To: rowdee (#304)

Did you make that clear to the Paul campaign, Cyni--that you want an accounting or that you want him to play the game your way, Did you make that clear to the Paul campaign, Cyni--that you want an accounting or that you want him to play the game your way,

As I see it....

Paul approached me and millions of others, ASKING for money. In fact I have received so many email requests for money that it is ridiculous.

Even the bum on the corner mooching a quarter will tell you it is for a cup of coffee. If he buys booze, he fibbed.

Paul said he would run for President of the US, takes my dollars and then tells me, he will just go thru the motions. First it was, well, we can settle for a brokered convention, anyone buying that needs help, then he needs to scale back, the broker thing is a no go but PLEASE send me MONEY that I might save my seat in the Congress.

The bum fibbed and bought booze. What is Paul doing, I dont know.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   11:41:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#307. To: Peppa (#303)

The Onion Principle

Layer 1 is the outer layer with smooth protective skin. Outside this layer is the world at large including the people we meet, do business with, work with, and with whom we have social contact.

Layer 2 is the first inner layer. This is for friends, pals and others we know and like.

Layer 3 is the next inner layer. This is for close family members, and close friends we know and trust.

Layer 4 is for romantic, trusting friendship (boyfriend/girlfriend)

Layer 5 is for embarking on a loving long-term relationship

Layer 6 is for the children if the onion is a parent

Layer 7 is for a total partnership of love and commitment

Layer 8 is the innermost layer (the place where your "inner child" lives). It is your most personal, private inner emotional space.

It is important to understand that an onion does not practice universal mistrust of others. That’s unhealthy. An onion is simply a discerning person who knows that emotional layers are precious, and should only be revealed and shared when empathy, trust and understanding have reached a point where it’s safe to go to the next layer with another person.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   11:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#308. To: Cynicom (#306)

Cyni, Cyni, Cyni..........why don't you click on the 'Unsubscribe' link on one of them friggin letters. Why expose yourself to the hourly bombardment of 'junk' mail? Why stress out about it? Life is toooooooooo short for that! :)

I haven't crunched any numbers, but re a brokered convention.......it appears on the surface to me right now that mitty suspended with bout 600 delegates. M-churian has something like 800. Hucklebuck probably 400......how many are left to be split? It takes over ll00 to get the nomination.

I haven't read where mitty released his delegates; there may be various state laws, or national party laws that don't make provisions for releasing or not releasing.

So when convention time comes, and no one has the requisite 1100 what are they gonna do? A trip over to TOS1 shows major league unhappiness with M-churian by the rank and file--and note that TOS1 has generally sided with CPAC in the past--they've had booths set up there and had radio reporting from there; CPAC didn't embrace him......so something is gonna have to give at the convention to get someone selected/elected for the gop ticket.

I am not saying that Ron would necessarily be put up as an acceptable candidate they all could embrace, but he would have leverage to force some positive policy (for instance, monetary policy or economic policy) in order to put his delegates in someone elses' column.

But then, on the other hand, Ron has been a perfect gentleman throughout this campaigning, he's not been 'kooky', or a nutjob......he would be/could be perfectly acceptable as an alternative to those who would vote for hilary before voting for M-churian, or those who hate evangelicals, or who don't like flipfloppers.

Granted, the PTB wouldn't be thrilled, but they still have their hilary or obama they cam peddle to the public.

Ron then becomes the scapegoat for all the gopers, buys time for them to clean up their image for four to eight years, in the hopes of recapturing the WH again at some point in time.

Congresscowards would like that idea, too, because it gets him out of being the conscience of Congress and the Constitution.

Both parties hacks would try to override the vetos he'd do, while the gopers would blame it on the demos or some such........OR maybe, just maybe, those with a little bit of hair on their chest might grow a set of testicles and follow his lead.

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!

rowdee  posted on  2008-02-10   12:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#309. To: Cynicom (#307)

At the center of the onion is the shoot of the new onion plant.

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   19:04:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#310. To: rowdee (#308)

Life is toooooooooo short for that! :)

Please dont remind me, 76 in a few days, and the friendly undertaker stops by once a week to see how I am and brings a tape measure.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   19:07:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#311. To: angle (#309)

At the center of the onion is the shoot of the new onion plant.

Pep and the rest think of me just as a smelly olde onion. No sense of humor and they look down on us onions, but actually we have quite a history.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   19:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#312. To: Cynicom (#310)

76 in a few days

What? Only 76. Willie Nelson is 74. Hell I was under the impression you were in your eighties. Well, no more elder reverence from me, you can count on that. And you're not old enough to call yourself olde, either.

angle  posted on  2008-02-10   21:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#313. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, angle (#0)

has it really been almost a year since he made this speech? unreal.

Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth.
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2009-01-16   17:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: Artisan (#313)

hard to believe

angle  posted on  2009-01-16   21:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#315. To: Artisan (#313)

Indeed. I'm watching Obama now, mingling with the good peoples of Baltimore. It's beautiful. Cold but beautiful.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2009-01-17   16:37:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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