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Title: Ron Paul's Goodbye (Jeff Rense)
Source: Rense
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general80/goodbye.htm
Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Jeff Rense
Post Date: 2008-02-10 17:10:32 by robin
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Ron Paul's Goodbye

By Jeff Rense
2-9-8

The real issue now is that Ron Paul is effectively out of the race ....whether he directly came out and said it or not. In his statement of thanks to his supporters (see below), he also announced he's cutting his staff way back. The message is clear.
The last Ron Paul 'money bomb' showed a substantial loss of support momentum...which was/is largely the result of his complete public disassociation and denouncement of the entire 911 Truth Movement during that national 'debate' several weeks ago.

That was either a bald-faced, enormous, lie to try to keep himself politically 'alive' ... OR that is HIS truth.
Either way, it cost him a lot of support.
We know several Ron Paul backers who dropped him at that moment... and it was reflected in the failed, subsequent fundraising.
His poor showing (absolutely expected) in the primaries was the final truth his devoted supporters had to swallow: the system is totally owned and operated by the controllers. Period.

Many Paulites will now walk away from this obviously, hopelessly corrupt and manipulated political charade in America...and will never look back. Some will stay.
Ron announced."I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican"and will not leave the party to run as an independent. (A Paul-Kucinich ticket would have at least been FUN).
WHAT Republican party?? That was a lamentable statement to read. Ron must be thinking it is still the Republican Party of the 19th century.

The Republican 'party' NOW stands for the BIG LIE, it stands for CRIME and DEATH, for GENOCIDE and PERVERSION, for TAXATION and GRAFT, for the FED and FINANCIAL RAPE, for DOMESTIC SPYING and the PATRIOT ACT, ...it stands for the end of LIBERTY and of our CONSTITUTION. Above all, it now stands for Zionism and WAR.
That statement alone probably ended about half of his remaining support. As we said many months ago, if he does NOT run as an independent, he will effectively put 'finis' to great portion of the majority of patriotic passion and commitment of the small, brave patriotic awakening he awakened in this rat hole political paradigm. And if the controllers are as smart as we think, they may well have orchestrated much of the 'Paul phenomena' to ultimately send the message, yet again, that 'resistance is futile!'
Ron said he needs to go home to Texas and work for his re-election to the House. That's a wise decision because the enemies of freedom and the Constitution, knowing all along he never had a chance in hell of gaining the nomination, will now try to unseat him...and they can do so if it be their will. Ask Cynthia McKinney.
So, even though he says he's 'still in the race' it is totally meaningless. Publicly, via his disassociation from 911 Truth, he is 'officially' standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Bush/Cheney and Zionism on 911.

He had a GREAT opportunity to bring 911 Truth forward during the campaign...and chose to hide it.
And, God forbid, if he really spoke HIS truth in the debate about the whole 911 issue, he is clearly, totally, disconnected from the biggest reality of our time: that 911 was an inside job.
Sad to see him give it up...but it was totally predictable and comes as no surprise. For his die-hard supporters and those who cherish America's nearly vanquished past magnificence, keep at it. Work at the local level...run for office... just know that the clock is ticking and the enemies of Freedom stand all around us and often in between us.

Of all the great American political leaders who sacrificed their lives for freedom, Ron chose, instead, to quote the zionist maniac killer Communist Trotsky about the 'revolution being permanent.' A strange choice. The statement could have been made without the need to acknowledge a Bolshevik madman.
In any case, the 'Ron Paul Revolution' is over... now just a footnote, an asterisk, in the grim record of these darkening times. Certainly, some will endeavor to carry on his themes...something the CIA/NSA supercomputer models knew and predicted long ago.
Ron Paul is a grand anachronism...a principled man out of time, as it were. He truly made a difference. And for that we owe him much.

Ron Paul - 'There Will Be
No Third Party Run'
Turns Attention To Keeping His Congressional Seat

Message from Ron Paul
2-9-8
Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well.

Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican.
I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen.
In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me.
Sincerely,

Ron
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#91. To: buckeye (#36)

I really wanted a third party run to give the American people a chance to write in his name. I wanted him to outdo Perot. I figured he had a chance outside the GOP machinery.

yeah, me too. i thought perhaps he had awakened enough people, way more than Perot, that if ever there was a chance for a third party movement, this was it.

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-10   18:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#67)

The Ron Paul revolution inside the GOP teapot ended up legitimizing the 2-party system

For those (of us) who already knew otherwise, it did no such thing. For those who didn't, it similarly did no such thing as they are as ignorant now as the were before.

and reinforcing the idea that the 2-party is 'all there is out there', 'rationally and realistically speaking'.

Realistically, it IS all that's out there, however irrational that might be.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   18:55:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Peppa (#89)

Pep...

In spite of your zingers, I do like you a little. And I bet you read the onion thingy about unity. If not, I am crushed.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   18:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: christine, Peppa, robin (#91)

hat if ever there was a chance for a third party movement, this was it.

I guess I let myself be taken in by my own enthusiasm, but I'm apparently not alone. As Pep says, we're waiting for the thunder.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   18:58:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Pinguinite (#92)

however irrational that might be.

Not stupid but totally irrational.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   18:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#83)

Voting is only consequential on the margins but, yes. To the extent that McCain is on the GOP ticket, I will joyfully go out and vote for Obama and bring my wife with me and talk as many of my neighbors as I can reach to come and try to help us avoid the McCain plague.

with everything you've said about the corrupt two party system, you'd now take part in it and lend legitimacy to it? good grief. i thought you and everyone else here KNEW it's a rigged system. the selection has already been made.

IF NOT RON PAUL. NO ONE. ROCK THE NO VOTE ONCE AGAIN.

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-10   18:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: robin (#72) (Edited)

He just made a big deal about remaining a Republican; no 3rd party race.

Okay, but it's probably not possible to run as an independent for prez while running as a R for congress, so that may be why he made the R statement. If he can't run as an R for congress, then he is much more likely to lose the seat. I'd say there's a massive chance that that's his reasoning.

The usual party practice is to support the party's nominee.

Sure, but Ron's not a usual Republican, and certainly does engage in usual R practices!

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   18:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Pinguinite (#63)

but the idea that the PTB's can be easily persuaded to let you live in complete freedom just by arguing the right things to the right thugs doesn't quite work for me. Sorry.

Oh, no, please do not go there. I have never said nor suggested such. Absolutely not!!!

Why do you suppose I left America? As I have said numerous times, I know what is coming, and I want nothing to do with it.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-02-10   18:59:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: buckeye (#94)

I guess I let myself be taken in by my own enthusiasm, but I'm apparently not alone.

buck...

Without enthusiasm you have nothing..

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   19:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Cynicom (#99)

Without enthusiasm you have nothing..

It's hard not to be enthusiastic. I bought into this whole idea that we were born free.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   19:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: christine (#96)

with everything you've said about the corrupt two party system, you'd now take part in it and lend legitimacy to it? good grief. i thought you and everyone else here KNEW it's a rigged system. the selection has already been made.

Good heavens. A two liner, am gonna save this for posterity.

Pin it up on my wall.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   19:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: buckeye (#57)

embedded nullification of the Constitution are very interesting, and yes, very cynical.

Please permit me one small piece of disagreement; the Truth is not cynical.

It is simply, the Truth.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-02-10   19:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: buckeye (#100)

It's hard not to be enthusiastic. I bought into this whole idea that we were born free.

You and me both.

It was my last political hurrah. And now this.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   19:03:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Pinguinite (#92)

For those (of us) who already knew otherwise, it did no such thing. For those who didn't, it similarly did no such thing as they are as ignorant now as the were before.

Wasting your breath Pinguinite.

They will hear of no such argument.

Realistically, it IS all that's out there, however irrational that might be.

When it is seen that RP was taken down from the inside, it will be interesting to see if trust can be rebuilt for the candidate they want.

More carnage to follow and 3rd party talk will die as well. Part two of maintaining the status quo charade.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   19:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Cynicom (#93)

In spite of your zingers, I do like you a little. And I bet you read the onion thingy about unity. If not, I am crushed.

Thanks for the crumb Cyni. And, you lose the bet. I really don't care about the onion. I'll try not to lose sleep about it.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   19:06:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Pinguinite (#87) (Edited)

Yes, the least damage, I believe. He actually is against universal health care, but looking for a way to reduce the costs so everyone can afford it. I don't see how he can do it, but more power to him.

He is determined to get us out of Iraq and voted against the war to begin with.

Here is Obama in 2002:

link

I don't oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income, to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

On Saddam Hussein

Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.... The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors...and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.

I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   19:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: richard9151 (#102)

It is simply, the Truth.

I can't argue with you on many of these issues because I don't know enough about it. And I don't mean to. I do believe some of these interpretations of history have powerful bearing on our problems today. It's no different form looking at the 3/5ths compromise, and stating that failure to resolve the issues it heralded led to the civil war.

The problem is that we're not willing to give up on restoring our freedoms just because we know that the deck is stacked against them.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   19:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: christine (#96)

IF NOT RON PAUL. NO ONE. ROCK THE NO VOTE ONCE AGAIN.

Everyone can still write-in Ron Paul. That's probably the best that can be done.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   19:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Pinguinite (#108)

Even if it means McCain will be elected in your state?

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   19:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Cynicom (#8)

If Paul did in fact write it, then he has pulled off the con job of the century in American politics.

We are only 8 years into this century. Get ready...

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snoopdougg  posted on  2008-02-10   19:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: richard9151 (#98)

Oh, no, please do not go there. I have never said nor suggested such. Absolutely not!!!

Okay, I respect your denials, but it seems you have advocated freedom solutions that involve citing ancient court cases and such.

Modern police don't care much for such thing when they are firing their tasers and other toys. Judges often don't care much for the rule of law either.

It pretty much works like this: The rules are what the guys with the guns say they are, and they can say different things every day.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   19:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: snoopdougg (#110)

We are only 8 years into this century. Get ready...

We suffered the Clinton moral humiliation for eight long years, suffered the Bush rape of American liberty for eight years, will we survive another Clinton?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   19:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Cynicom (#112)

will we survive another Clinton?

no

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   19:16:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Cynicom (#112)

will we survive another Clinton?

Hillary's upside is that she will wake America up FAR more than McCain.

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snoopdougg  posted on  2008-02-10   19:17:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: buckeye (#107)

The problem is that we're not willing to give up on restoring our freedoms just because we know that the deck is stacked against them.

That is not the problem, my friend, the problem is when you go about it in the wrong manner. THAT is the problem; when you do it as 'they' dictate instead of in a manner that will succeed. Or could have succeeded, until national politics became a mania.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-02-10   19:19:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: snoopdougg (#114)

Hillary's upside is that she will wake America up FAR more than McCain.

McCain is deranged.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   19:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: richard9151 (#115)

What's the right manner? It sounds like you're saying that all politics are local.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   19:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Pinguinite (#111)

It pretty much works like this: The rules are what the guys with the guns say they are, and they can say different things every day.

Absolutely. They are only following the precepts laid down by such as Stalin, who stated that the difference between Communism and Socialism is that Communism comes out of the barrel of a gun.

As to this;

but it seems you have advocated freedom solutions that involve citing ancient court cases and such.

No. I never go there. Been there, done that, and it is a waste of time. Yes, I have won some minor affairs, but I well understand 'their' system. Again, this is why I left, and have no wish to return; because of the people, who will not accept that was has happened is because of what they have allowed.

I quote court cases to show the basis of what is and has happened; not to encourage using 'their' system to set things to right. I also quote such to show that, contrary to popular belief, there is a reason for things to happen as they do; it is not an accident.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-02-10   19:24:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: snoopdougg (#114)

McCain wants 100 years of wars, I'm guessing Hillary wants like 50. But by then the USA would be no more anyway.

Obama spoke out against invading Iraq. I posted a link and part of his 2002 speech here.

He will bring them home, but not as quickly as RP would have.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   19:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: buckeye (#117)

What's the right manner? It sounds like you're saying that all politics are local.

No, not all politics are local; BUT.... the only politics where the people count and can have control of the affair is local.

This is why there is always such an emphsis put on national politics, so the people will put their attention where they can have no impact.

There is only one Ron Paul in Congress. Why is that? Because the people who should put more Ron Pauls in Congress have no understanding of what is important, and, how to go about changing things. Instead, they are busy complaining about what is wrong, and, trying to convince others as to how correct their viewpoint is, and, it is not their viewpoint at all; it is propaganda.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-02-10   19:28:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: robin (#17)

IMO, the best we can hope for is Obama.

Have you looked at Obama's positions on gun control?

He wants to ban all semi-automatic weapons (MOST modern weapons), and wants only retired cops to be able to carry guns concealed.

Barack Obama on Gun Control


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FormerLurker  posted on  2008-02-10   19:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: richard9151, Cynicom (#120)

This is why there is always such an emphsis put on national politics, so the people will put their attention where they can have no impact.

This is a very insightful post. Thank you for taking time to clarify.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   19:36:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: FormerLurker (#121)

I didn't say he was first choice. What are Hillary's positions on gun control?

Look at your choices. McCain wants 100 years of war.

Hopefully Congress would not give away our guns.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   19:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: buckeye, Pinguinite (#117)

It sounds like you're saying that all politics are local.

"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election... It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!"

-- George W. Malone (1890-1961) U.S. Senator (Nevada) 1957

Source: speaking before Congress

In reading the above, you will note that the man DID NOT mention the president; just the Congress. Ever wonder why that would be so, and would you possibly suspect that he knew of what he spoke?

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-02-10   19:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: robin (#123)

Hopefully Congress would not give away our guns.

The congress of a unanimous HR 1955? The congress of renewed telecom spy powers? The congress of torture? The congress of the MCA and the the abdication of monetary and war power?

We can't afford to bet on this.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   19:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: robin (#17)

IMO, the best we can hope for is Obama.

A gun control Marxist who supports infanticide? No thanks.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-10   19:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: christine (#96)

Well, this week's episode of The Big Show has been really exciting, dividing the posters here into about four different warring factions, but what's all this talk of pretending to vote for the negro guy?

Weren't the people paying attention when the writers at the world jew congress, aipac, jinsa, adl and every other anti- America organization announced Hillary! as the next president-elect about six months ago?

That kind of spoiled the show for me. What's the point of pretending to vote when they tell you the outcome beforehand?

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Esso  posted on  2008-02-10   19:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Vitamin Z (#126)

OK, do you prefer McCain or Hillary? Those are your only other real alternatives at this point.

Obama is at least against the Iraq war and has been since 2002.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   19:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: richard9151 (#124)

Ever wonder why that would be so, and would you possibly suspect that he knew of what he spoke?

Tell us more.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   19:44:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: robin (#128)

Obama is at least against the Iraq war and has been since 2002.

But he's for invading Pakistan! (I think Ron Paul is, also -- when it comes down to nabbing Osama).

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   19:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: robin (#123)

I didn't say he was first choice. What are Hillary's positions on gun control?

I don't think Hillary's positions on gun control are as extreme as Obama's. It's a pretty sad day when Hillary Clinton is looking like the lesser of the evils.

Of course, this entire primary charade was steered and engineered to make that the case.

I'm really disillusioned with RP given his utter refusal to run as a third party candidate. Maybe I'll just write myself in on the ballot...


You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006

FormerLurker  posted on  2008-02-10   19:46:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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