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Title: Ron Paul's Goodbye (Jeff Rense)
Source: Rense
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general80/goodbye.htm
Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Jeff Rense
Post Date: 2008-02-10 17:10:32 by robin
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Ron Paul's Goodbye

By Jeff Rense
2-9-8

The real issue now is that Ron Paul is effectively out of the race ....whether he directly came out and said it or not. In his statement of thanks to his supporters (see below), he also announced he's cutting his staff way back. The message is clear.
The last Ron Paul 'money bomb' showed a substantial loss of support momentum...which was/is largely the result of his complete public disassociation and denouncement of the entire 911 Truth Movement during that national 'debate' several weeks ago.

That was either a bald-faced, enormous, lie to try to keep himself politically 'alive' ... OR that is HIS truth.
Either way, it cost him a lot of support.
We know several Ron Paul backers who dropped him at that moment... and it was reflected in the failed, subsequent fundraising.
His poor showing (absolutely expected) in the primaries was the final truth his devoted supporters had to swallow: the system is totally owned and operated by the controllers. Period.

Many Paulites will now walk away from this obviously, hopelessly corrupt and manipulated political charade in America...and will never look back. Some will stay.
Ron announced."I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican"and will not leave the party to run as an independent. (A Paul-Kucinich ticket would have at least been FUN).
WHAT Republican party?? That was a lamentable statement to read. Ron must be thinking it is still the Republican Party of the 19th century.

The Republican 'party' NOW stands for the BIG LIE, it stands for CRIME and DEATH, for GENOCIDE and PERVERSION, for TAXATION and GRAFT, for the FED and FINANCIAL RAPE, for DOMESTIC SPYING and the PATRIOT ACT, ...it stands for the end of LIBERTY and of our CONSTITUTION. Above all, it now stands for Zionism and WAR.
That statement alone probably ended about half of his remaining support. As we said many months ago, if he does NOT run as an independent, he will effectively put 'finis' to great portion of the majority of patriotic passion and commitment of the small, brave patriotic awakening he awakened in this rat hole political paradigm. And if the controllers are as smart as we think, they may well have orchestrated much of the 'Paul phenomena' to ultimately send the message, yet again, that 'resistance is futile!'
Ron said he needs to go home to Texas and work for his re-election to the House. That's a wise decision because the enemies of freedom and the Constitution, knowing all along he never had a chance in hell of gaining the nomination, will now try to unseat him...and they can do so if it be their will. Ask Cynthia McKinney.
So, even though he says he's 'still in the race' it is totally meaningless. Publicly, via his disassociation from 911 Truth, he is 'officially' standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Bush/Cheney and Zionism on 911.

He had a GREAT opportunity to bring 911 Truth forward during the campaign...and chose to hide it.
And, God forbid, if he really spoke HIS truth in the debate about the whole 911 issue, he is clearly, totally, disconnected from the biggest reality of our time: that 911 was an inside job.
Sad to see him give it up...but it was totally predictable and comes as no surprise. For his die-hard supporters and those who cherish America's nearly vanquished past magnificence, keep at it. Work at the local level...run for office... just know that the clock is ticking and the enemies of Freedom stand all around us and often in between us.

Of all the great American political leaders who sacrificed their lives for freedom, Ron chose, instead, to quote the zionist maniac killer Communist Trotsky about the 'revolution being permanent.' A strange choice. The statement could have been made without the need to acknowledge a Bolshevik madman.
In any case, the 'Ron Paul Revolution' is over... now just a footnote, an asterisk, in the grim record of these darkening times. Certainly, some will endeavor to carry on his themes...something the CIA/NSA supercomputer models knew and predicted long ago.
Ron Paul is a grand anachronism...a principled man out of time, as it were. He truly made a difference. And for that we owe him much.

Ron Paul - 'There Will Be
No Third Party Run'
Turns Attention To Keeping His Congressional Seat

Message from Ron Paul
2-9-8
Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well.

Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican.
I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen.
In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me.
Sincerely,

Ron
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#1. To: Cynicom, buckeye, _______, Peppa, Hayek Fan, christine (#0)

Of all the great American political leaders who sacrificed their lives for freedom, Ron chose, instead, to quote the zionist maniac killer Communist Trotsky about the 'revolution being permanent.' A strange choice. The statement could have been made without the need to acknowledge a Bolshevik madman.

robin  posted on  2008-02-10   17:12:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#1)

Until I hear otherwise, I'm taking this as Ron Paul's blogger's goodbye. I hope he is fired forthwith.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   17:19:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeye (#3)

So far all we have is one blogger who claims he has an email from Carol Paul that this was not written by Dr. Paul. That's not much to go on considering that message is on the front page of his campaign website as we type.

robin  posted on  2008-02-10   17:20:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin, Peppa (#4)

That's not much to go on considering that message is on the front page of his campaign website as we type.

I hear ya, robin. I'm taking a wait and see approach. Meanwhile it's been very interesting to see the reactions around the internet.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   17:24:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeye (#7)

I'm taking a wait and see approach. Meanwhile it's been very interesting to see the reactions around the internet.

I think Rense's piece if off base. I understand the Paul's were to be at a rally today, (according to the thread at the RP forum). This is apparently unacceptable in this case, and therefore is perfect timing to kneecap RP when he can't react. So what have we? Tos4?

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   17:37:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Peppa (#12)

Jeff Rense wrote this yesterday.

If you think we have been conspiring all along against Ron Paul's campaign then you must live on another planet.

robin  posted on  2008-02-10   17:41:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin (#15)

Jeff Rense wrote this yesterday.

If you think we have been conspiring all along against Ron Paul's campaign then you must live on another planet.

I think there are many quesitonable behaviours, but the deed has been done. If Rense has not the sense to question if it was written by RP to begin with, or at least a suspicion that something was amiss, I can't say it's any more fair to give credit to Jeff, that which was not extended to Ron Paul.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   17:44:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Peppa (#19)

His last message with the Trotsky quote is STILL ON HIS CAMPAIGN WEBSITE. It was written on Feb. 8th. This is the 10th.

robin  posted on  2008-02-10   17:46:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: robin (#21)

His last message with the Trotsky quote is STILL ON HIS CAMPAIGN WEBSITE. It was written on Feb. 8th. This is the 10th.

Guess we've been had.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   17:47:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Peppa (#24)

Read post #2, perhaps RP had some outside pressure.

robin  posted on  2008-02-10   17:50:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: robin (#26)

Read post #2, perhaps RP had some outside pressure.

???

What more pressure is needed than looking at the current delegate count?

Or maybe the funding?

We've believed Ron has been a man of conscience all these years, never making backroom deals with other congressmen or voting for pork benefiting his own district, and now we're to consider the possibility that someone successfully applied covert pressure on Ron Paul to stop actively campaigning?

I don't see how that could be in the cards. It just does not fit the Ron Paul profile. And there's no more pressure needed than looking at the stats right now. Ron's always been a practical, realistic guy, and the stats are not in his favor in terms of winning. He's done well, better than most of the original GOP contenders.

Witch hunting is out of order here.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   18:04:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Pinguinite (#44)

I'm not suggesting a witch hunt. If he chooses to end his campaign now, I would like to hear him say that he is NOT endorsing McCain.

robin  posted on  2008-02-10   18:09:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: robin (#50)

I would like to hear him say that he is NOT endorsing McCain.

I think it quite silly to suspect that he would endorse McCain, so I don't see why this is important to you. He's just as likely to rip up a copy of the Constitution at a press conference, if you ask me.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   18:30:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Pinguinite (#69)

I think it quite silly to suspect that he would endorse McCain,

I was stupid for asking such a question.

These are Pauls words.

" But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican."

McCain is a republican and I consider it perfectly unstupid and unsilly to ask a simple question. You took our money, do you endorse McCain.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   18:36:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Cynicom (#77)

Very disappointing, that he will not be running as a 3rd party candidate. He has plenty of money to run and continue to get the true conservative message out in this way.

robin  posted on  2008-02-10   18:38:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: robin (#80)

Very disappointing, that he will not be running as a 3rd party candidate. He has plenty of money to run and continue to get the true conservative message out in this way.

I consider you one of the brighter ones on this forum. However, your statement above does not point that out.

If Ron Paul couldn't get his message out running in the GOP party, was included in all the regular debates, how in the hell would he get his message out as a third party candidate? just stop and think what you're proposing here. Ron Paul does not have hundreds of millions of dollars like Perot has. The MSM would continue to marginalize him running as a third party candidate. The very best a third party candidate can do is spend one heckofa lot of money and at best would be a spoiler.

I hope you also realize that he can not run as a third party candidate after running and losing as a candidate in another party for that same office for the same election cycle. That is to insure the two wings of our one party can stay in power indefinitely. Now, do you finally get a grasp on the election rules?

The 19th amendment has been a curse for America as far as I'm concerned. Women voting gave us dumb ass dumbya. Many women professed they would vote for dumbya as he was 'such a hunk'. Helluva reason to vote for a candidate! Now there are women by the millions clamouring to vote for the hildebeast just because she is a women. Ain't that grand? If she was a truly good candidate, I would vote for her. Unfortunately she is as bad as all the others.

Those who abondoned Ron Paul after he refused to take a stand on whether 9-11 was an inside job are a joke to me They can go drink monkey piss with all the other one issue voters. Had we been able to get him elected, we just might have elected the one man who would have unraveled what actually happened that day. Had he took a stand on that issue as a believer it was an inside job in any of the debates, he probably would already be a statistic of the Jimmy Hoffa type.

The two birds of prey, demons and pubbierats would have had even more fodder to use point him and us(his supporters) and even bigger looney tunes than they have been doing. He showed statesman like classs in his handling of the 9-11 issue. Taking one side or the other would have cost him votes either way. No, he never compromised his principles even once since he started his campaign and that goes to prove what a great statesman he is and points out what a great president he would be.

I believe we will not see the likes of another candidate like Ron Paul ever again. The next time someone comes along that appears to be like him may very well be the anti-christ. Leave it up to the Americans to screw things up and themselves in the process. As someone's tag line says, ' If America is destroyed it just may be from within, by a flag waving,patriotic appering person (s) and that person(s) may very well be all of us.

There isn't 1/10 of 1% of the population that would be willing to put their ass on the line to fight the fight that would restore America back to it's previous greatness. We have been dumbed down for too long, been marginalized too long, spoiled with greed for too long, and now we are going to find out what we really deserve and have coming down the road. I can assure you 'it ain't gonna be a picnic'.Anyone who can't see it coming or can't see the severity of it will, well I feel sorry for them

Ron Paul may well be a distant memory to many former supporters come this november, but he won't to me. I will write in a vote for him as will my wife. Maybe that will help lighten any burden placed upon us when the punishment comes our way. At least we will know like Dr. Paul, we never compromised.

I will not edit this comment. Eye sight too bad and this is pretty long.

LACUMO  posted on  2008-02-10   20:18:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: LACUMO, _______ (#147)

The very best a third party candidate can do is spend one heckofa lot of money and at best would be a spoiler.

nothing ventured, nothing gained. i think the time could very well have been right and i think had RP gone for it, he could have galvanized a very very large number of Americans who would have donated the money he needed. it really was now or never.

then the fact that RP so vehemently declared himself a republican who will remain a republican, for me, added insult to injury.

i agree with _______ who questioned, "How is having a seat in a corrupt Congress as the "Titanic" sinks more important than running a massive message/real effort to win 3rd Party campaign through to November?"

christine  posted on  2008-02-10   21:40:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#225. To: christine (#184)

i agree with _______ who questioned, "How is having a seat in a corrupt Congress as the "Titanic" sinks more important than running a massive message/real effort to win 3rd Party campaign through to November?"

I think if Ron honestly thought that the chances of winning a 3rd party prez run was worth forfeiting his congressional seat, he'd have gone for it. As it is, he sees going indi as a worthless effort, and therefore wants to ensure the consolation prize of keeping his C seat.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   22:40:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: Pinguinite (#225)

I think if Ron honestly thought that the chances of winning a 3rd party prez run was worth forfeiting his congressional seat, he'd have gone for it.

That is not stupid but is convoluted thinking.

Ron Paul and no one here ever had the illusion that Paul would win. No one.

We were hoping for a start, Paul put himself out there, he was not drafted, he asked for and received our money, millions of it and then took a dive.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   22:44:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: Cynicom (#227)

Ron Paul and no one here ever had the illusion that Paul would win. No one.

We were hoping for a start, Paul put himself out there, he was not drafted, he asked for and received our money, millions of it and then took a dive.

The revolution spark needed more time to flame.

Damn I'm pissed off.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   22:46:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: _______ (#230)

The revolution spark needed more time to flame.

Good thing General Washington did not take a hike from Valley Forge.

He was made of sterner material and the Brits had a price on his head.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   22:49:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: Cynicom (#231)

The revolution spark needed more time to flame.

Good thing General Washington did not take a hike from Valley Forge.

He was made of sterner material and the Brits had a price on his head.

I have a hunch, call it an intuition, that a message made it to Ron at CPAC.

The one that romney got.

Just a hunch.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   22:58:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#241. To: _______, Cynicom (#237)

fwiw, i don't think that Ron Paul will endorse McCain.

christine  posted on  2008-02-10   23:04:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#247. To: christine (#241)

fwiw, i don't think that Ron Paul will endorse McCain.

Most likely you are correct, no formal endorsement but on the flip side, no public comment on McCain whatsoever.

Again a tacit endorsement, once a pub always a pub, I am loyal pub, all BS.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   23:08:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: Cynicom (#247)

RP doesn't have to endorse anyone; he's already locked arms with the biggest load of perverts on the planet. Let him enjoy his exclusive club membership. He's irrelevant.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-10   23:15:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: Jethro Tull (#250)

RP doesn't have to endorse anyone;

Jethro...

He already did. Mccain calls for party unity and two days later Paul get political religion swearing his undying faith in the republican party. Makes me sick.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   23:19:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: Cynicom (#252)

Chuck Hagel vs Ron Paul

March 12, 2007

Chuck Hagel decided not to announce his candidacy for President today while Ron Paul announced. However if you were unfortunate enough to pay any attention to the mainstream media circus you would be under the impression that Hagel was the only candidate to make any news. I think one Ron Paul supporter knows why:

According to Hardball, Hagel is the only Anti-War, Pro-Civil liberties candidate running for the Republican Primary. But, just how Anti-war and Anti-police state is he? Look at his Voting record, compared to the voting record of Ron Paul. He voted for the Military Commissions Act! Ron Paul is the only true Anti-War, Pro-Civil Liberties candidate.

July 5th, 2007

Ron Paul/Chuck Hagel '08 ???

James Pinkerton has written a prospective "retrospective" of the 2008 election in Newsday. It's an interesting piece--especially interesting, I think, in that while it mentions few Republicans by name (other than waving goodbye to John McCain's candidacy), it provides something of an explanation about how Ron Paul could actually win the nomination and ultimately the presidency. An interesting read.

Key quote:

The Republicans, nominating a ticket free of any close association with the outgoing administration, won a comfortable victory.

If only....

How about a Ron Paul/Chuck Hagel ticket? That would fit Pinkerton's bill, wouldn't it?

LLE

Some things I'm thinking of and want to remember.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   23:26:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: _______ (#254)

Paul thru mis advice or poor judgment has faltered in the first turn and to a long shot in a race that is fatal. His own presentations were an indicator, allowing lesser men to mock him in front of millions was wrong and someone should have told him so.

I no longer know what to think.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   23:33:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: Cynicom (#258)

His own presentations were an indicator, allowing lesser men to mock him in front of millions was wrong and someone should have told him so.

yeah, i agree. and it's not like he didn't have it in him. i saw it and heard it a number of times. maybe he was Perot'd. this was sudden. who knows. i don't know what to think anymore either.

christine  posted on  2008-02-11   0:02:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


Replies to Comment # 263.

#308. To: christine, Peppa, rowdee (#263)

ya know, I've read about enough of this bullshit. what a freakin' joke. when has anyone ever done anything worth a shit on a "Third Party" ticket? answer - never. and as for this goddamn Perot genuflecting, give me a fkn' break. he'd be as irrelavant as Nader if he hadn't been spookdaddy's little bitch. wobbly petitioned the CPD to bend the rules and let him into the debates, and that's the only reason he pulled the percentage of votes that he did. right, like the two chosen frauds are going to ask to bend the 15% rule to let Ron anywhere near the final debates if he would go third party. or maybe David Icke's mystical millionaires would beam down all that cash they're sitting on just waiting for him to make his move. pffftttt! oh, wait. I forgot that he is one of "THEM", ya' know. pmlol!

"It's a little bit early to write us off, but I'm not making any predictions that we're going to run away with it, either," he said. "We're going to be continuing the process to remind Republicans what the conservative philosophy is all about."

Paul's spokesman Jesse Benton said the national staff would likely be reduced from 150 to about 50, with those who worked in the Super Tuesday primaries in states such as California being let go.

In addition, Benton said, he and other national staffers will transfer to Paul's congressional re-election operation.

But Benton said that even as Paul wages a primary campaign he will also continue running his presidential campaign in Texas. Three staffers will be assigned to his presidential effort here. He said that the Paul campaign has purchased about $700,000 worth of radio and cable television advertising that is scheduled to start running this week in the Houston, Austin and Dallas-Fort Worth markets.

Benton said that Paul still has about $6 million in his presidential election account. He said the lawmaker cannot transfer that money to his congressional campaign unless he terminates his presidential effort, which he does not intend to do.

But Benton said Paul had recently raised several hundred thousand dollars for his congressional race.

Ron has said repeatedly that he is an "Old Right Republican", like Taft and Goldwater, over the last twelve years that I've been aware of his efforts to do something about the monstrosity that is the federal government. and he has said from the beginning that he was running a dual campaign including his house seat. if people want to read between the lines and fabricate fantasies to their liking, that's their fk'n problem, but he has never misrepresented himself as anything but that. if that ain't good enough, then guess it's just tough shit. cry me a fk'n river.

with Romney 'suspending' his campaign, that screws up the brokered convention strategy because it locks up his delegates, including the ones he just got in Maine and any others he collects because Neds are still supporting him, and different rules apply as to what can be done with them than if he would've dropped out. I'm not really pleased with how Rons run has panned out up till now either, but where the fuck do these people get off with throwing him in front of the train. enjoy the sunshine...

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