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Title: Ron Paul's Goodbye (Jeff Rense)
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URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general80/goodbye.htm
Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Jeff Rense
Post Date: 2008-02-10 17:10:32 by robin
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Ron Paul's Goodbye
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#388. To: Peppa (#387)
Yup, he was the other side of the CFR coin that was flipped each time we changed sock puppets. He was introduced at the CFR hootenanny as the next President of the US two years before the election! He even spoke Espanol when he addressed the nation and despite how impressive that was, I had a creepy feeling that it would bring in loads of them other peepul from fir away landz. Hell, I had never even seen a Mexican then, and I assumed that they wore sombreros and took siestas and were slow and friendly. After I landed in LA 3 years later that picture changed. Those gang bangers with those ghastly facial tats (all blue ink-jailhouse tats) hairnets and plaid shirts with the top button always buttoned. Mister I'm hear to tell you that it was dam scary to me! I learned that they never shot gavachos unless we actively looked for trouble, but I learned that in my part of Los Angeles County there was an excellent chance of catching a falling projectile from the hundreds that were fired into the air during the course of a normal week. (like an Iraqi wedding or sumthin) One Mex fellow told me how he decided to test his new Marlin .30-30 rifle in his living room to impress his friends, so he put a mattress against the wall (to serve as a bullet trap/backstop) and fired, killing his two year old daughter in her crib in the bedroom behind the wall the mattress was leaned against. The DA recommended (and the grand jury agreed) to no-bill him because he had "suffered enough". And, like a person of diminished capacity it was assumed that he didn't have the grey matter to grasp the dynamics of external ballistics, and therefore was not even guilty of negligent homicide! The logic became clear as time went on. If he went to prison his family would be on welfare and he was a working man with no gang affiliation, and how great of a loss was "just another Mexican-American female anchor baby", anyway?
"'Schools is educationy' ; A message from our president."
I wouldn't go publicizing that connection. You did have some respect on this board.
That was beautiful, ROFL!!! I have never figured out the appeal of the hairnet, on anyone. If you are in the foodservice line of work, hairnet good. Some need one for their chest. If you are NOT at work, take it off, it no longer has that certain allure. That said, I could never get past nets on ladies hats anyway, it always looked like they were being swarmed by gnats, and who can say, wow, ain't she a hot chil' in the city. Meanwhile back to Carter. Big Teeth. That and hairnets are off-putting.
I agree, and not a bad analogy. The alternative is to leave with no forwarding, like Bollyn did. Not much of a choice.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! LOL! You always gotta go out and ruin a good thing, don't you?
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That's what the poster I reposted in post #2 suspected. That the Trotsky quote was a sign like "Tell it to the Marines".
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! I was comparing Obama to Hillary and McCain. Who are you voting for in Nov?
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! I personally (and in my opinion) invested a material and significant amount of time, effort and money into the Ron Paul Revolution. I know there are others out there who did at least as much and even much, much more. Now, I have a headache. This would now be my advice to Ron Paul: Being Dr. No in the House of Representatives is accomplishing nothing--it hasn't and it won't. If the man sincerely has the political revolution in his heart, he should abandon the Republican (/Democrat) party. He should abandon the House of Representatives. Ron Paul should announce and organize a third political party not as a candidate but as a figurehead--a leader--a centerpoint under which candidates are groomed and supported at all levels of American government. The seed money is in place. The organization is in place. The time is ripe.
They are very of afraid of Ron Paul. Good.
I do agree. Check out post #2's idea (from another blog); perhaps his hand is being forced.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! When and if Paul, you, I or any American succumbs to force, threats, and/or intimidation, all is lost.
They are very of afraid of Ron Paul. Good.
Maybe Ron should have taken the high road and just walked over and knocked the smirk off some of them's faces, ya think? Or gone the low road and just acted like a gentleman, leaving the impression the guy is 'presidential even when confronted by someone throwing rotten eggs'. Personally, he shoulda taken the high road.........he'd have been laughed off the stage and into the dustbin of history, but man oh man, would we have all gotten a huge 'high' from such an action....ya gotta love a macho president! Fergit all that diplomacy sheet, and just duke it out. It just adds so much credibility to the rest of your policies/principles/whatever.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
sigh....then that would make Indie's, JT's, Esso's, and other's opinions that it's too late to work within the system dead on. (pun intended) RP and a R3volution within the corporation never had a chance. where's V?
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
Pauls fellow "republicans" were to me a slimy lot. Telling them so on TV would have been news that no one could overlook. As it is he took the high road and here we are.
Thank you for your good words, hammer........all this whining and bitching has got me baffled. I will say it seems like they are like the bushbots in that they hear and see what they want to.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
yes, that's my sentiment too. and, dee, yes, take the gloves off, the time for niceties and silence is way gone.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
yep
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
And here we stand, in the middle of Main Street, USA, with egg on our face, holding an empty burlap bag with a hole in the bottom, and our Pied Piper has bummed a dollar off us to take a coffee break.
And here we stand, in the middle of Main Street, USA, with egg on our face, holding an empty burlap bag with a hole in the bottom, and our Pied Piper has bummed a dollar off us to take a coffee break.
If the man took a dive which some here seem to believe, uhh, why would you support him ever again? It's the 'supporters' that took a dive here... and are trying to drag as many as possible with them. Not a bunch to rally around, as they are just as bad corrupting the process, just like the system already in place. Trust us! We're clean and pure, my ass. Considering there are far better minds that have been elected to office 10 times around here, I'm pretty sure you would want a far better organization than the rag tag bunch of morons that raised a shitload of money for the guy some people want to crap on and vilify.
Considering there are far better minds that have been elected to office 10 times around here, I'm pretty sure you would want a far better organization than the rag tag bunch of morons that raised a shitload of money for the guy some people want to crap on and vilify. There is no excuse for such language.
And you. Please call them to get your money back. Tell me, at what point did the ad fail to go in, before or after the HQ snubbed your phone call. You know what, I think you are a malcontent in need of a soapbox and groupies.
And he could have taken the low road, Cyni, and been laughed off the stage......as being 'thin skinned', a 'whiner', or any other number of charming nicknames the msm would have blasted him with. Then, we'd be sitting here discussing that our candidate has no tact, that he was too stupid to realize he was being set up and that he bought it.......or a gazillion other things. No doubt 9/11 and truthin would have gotten in the mix somehow. I simply don't understand all this 'eating of our own' by people. Surely we're all grown up enough and savvy enough to realize msm wouldn't give him the time of day---but they weren't very good to folks like Tancredo, Hunter, Gilchrist, or Brownback, either. They were extremely effective during the debate periods of keeping the 'ball' out of his hands. And did you notice at the last one, they tried to keep the 'ball' away from Huckleberry, too? Surely we're all grown up enough and savvy enough to know that if he took off on a tangent about gubmint sponsored or endorsed actions resulting in 9/11 that he would definitely been described as a fringe idiot, or worse, and would never be given the chance to explain, or explain adequately his reasoning. I, for one, have never felt you had to 'read between the lines' to get a read of where Ron Paul stands or is coming from. Everytime I've heard him, he seems to know what he is saying and says it plainly. And yet he's challenged on that---look at how many "I thoughts' have been on these several threads. Not what "Ron thought or said", but "I thought". Has everyone lapsed back into bushbot mode?
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
I hope not.
As you know, I do try to exercise proper social manners Intentional gross language impresses no one. Never has and never will.
Exactly how many voters do you believe, chrissie, would cross over to vote for a violent person? He'd be laughed off the pages of history with his "Dean" moment.......and it would put a lie to his call for much more diplomacy. I understand the frustration everyone is going through. I've been known to say I'd like to beat the shit outta somebody for this or that. I'd sure get a lot of satisfaction, but without control of myself, what would make me presidential.......more people would be thinking I was acting like a hitler or a stalin, or the current buzz.......a trotsky!
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
row... Everyone has their own view and I respect yours. Paul asked for money and support and people responded, however if they were to publish a graph of donations I suspect there would be a steep decline. The fact that he is paring back staff surely is an indicator. I am not the only "malcontent", there seems to be many thousands that have decided enough is enough. Spamming me twice for money to run for Congress in Texas was a personal affront. I supported, I gave a great deal of money and to me that entitles me to withdraw and make my views known. Paul elucidated his views and his intentions very well via email.
Oh, Cyni........go wipe your face off--I didn't notice you have egg on it. :) I've seen more genuine honest to goodness enthusiasm for the beloved Constitution and sound government in this primary election season than any other time in my adult life. I'm rejoicing over that. I'm rejoicing that instead of young people all tattoos, pierced, pinned, or whatever, I was able to see a side of American in our young people that I was damned near convinced no longer existed. No one broke my arm, intimidated, nor threatened me into giving to a cause or person I believed in. I gave freely because I wanted the sounds of freedom to spread. Why don't you send his campaign an email asking for your money back; that it was taken under false pretenses, and outline all of the pretenses you believe to be false. If that fails to gain a response, try emailing his congress addy, or mailing a letter to his home. And above all, find that 'unsubscribe' hyperlink to get out of his system.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
Regarding cutting back on campaign staff.........I read a news article where they all typically do that after the big rush of primaries is over. It conserves funds for the later primaries, hopefully provides to get thru the convention cycle, and once the nominee is declared, they ramp it up again. This is how they have people in states in place to 'jump on the bandwagon' after the convention's official nominee is announced. These are generally ramrodded by party diehards who keep lists of volunteers and the like, so in an instant they are behind the man, or woman. I'll try not to address any of your concerns again, Cyni, because you are certainly entitled to lament whatever wrongs you've been the recipient of. Best regards.....
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
That might be a little strong, Pepp. I do believe Cyni is voicing things as he sees it. And, then again, you're entitled to think as you do. I just hope things don't get carried away......frustrations and stress often make people go beyond civility. And while apologies can be made and accepted, once a word is spoken or written, its out there for eternity. Seems there's always a downside to something....many a time I thought I was right and said so, oftentimes in unflattering terms, and while sincerely apologizing, it's still out there and can be brought to mind in an instant.
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
I believe I know someone who just *might* need to go in for a thorough vision exam. ;^)
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. The whole world knows that you are upset with Ron Paul. Why don't you use your energy to expose Hillary, Obama, and McCain?
I don't hold RP's unwillingness to run Third Party (a lost cause - if you think he was invisible before, wait until he tries to run Libertarian or Constitution Party again) against him. What I find very strange is that he won't commit his energy, his supporters, and his substantial campaign contributions to keeping up the fight against a McCain victory. It's obvious that he won't win, but if his goal was to be a "message candidate," what better time to get the message out when the likely GOP nominee is the worst that they've ever had? Why won't he come out and say that he will refuse to endorse McCain's candidacy for President?
Let's just let it be a surprise? McHillobama should be a good lesson in 'how to grovel before the man' for all of us. /s
I am a Republican. I love the Republican Party. I've always been a Republican. My parents were Republicans. It's good to be a Republican.
I really hope that's not the long and short of it, but it's beginning to look like that. It's starting to remind me of Pat Buchanan - who started out fighting the good fight, but then gave a glowing endorsement of Bush in 2004 with some idiocy about "coming back home" to the GOP.
I also gave money to his campaign ($25), but have no reason to give any more. While I would have liked to see better use of the money donated, consider this: Much of his legitimacy (little that he had given the inherent bias) from the mainstream media came from the fact of his phenomenal grassroots fund raising. It's the only legitimacy that the gatekeepers recognized. His invitations to the various "debates" would have been much fewer had he only raised 1 or 2 million dollars. What our donations paid for was a foot in the door. I hope that the remaining funds are put to good use somehow. The problem that I see now is that people are ignoring the message that he'd been spreading during his candidacy. The issues he raised are absolutely correct whatever you think of him as a man and the decisions he made. The Ron Paul R3volution is not and should never have been about the man. Listening to him during the campaign, I learned about stuff I thought I already understood. One can only hope that enough people "got it" that these facts can be passed on to our posterity, or even if it is a foreign nation/culture that picks up the banner of liberty. It reminds me of (and in a way the problem is somewhat related) of America's ubiquitous Jesus worshippers who completely ignore Christ's message of how to get along with the rest of the world. They care nothing of the message, only whether or not they are "saved".
I remember all too well. I parted ways with the GOP now.
Jesus didn't quit on the way to the cross.
True, it should be about the message, not the messenger. That doesn't mean that the messenger should just give up the fight, especially not with somebody like McCain as the likely GOP nominee.
You illustrate my point. You are focusing on the personality, not the teaching.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestC'mon Dawg, he wore a sweater, gave us gas lines to teach us a lesson, and told us, you people need to just bend over, it's going to get worse. THAT is inspirational on the level of McCains 100 year war, jobs ain't coming back and 75 buck lettuce. True Liberal, True Conservative...just what the docta ordered!/s
#389. To: Cynicom (#353)
#390. To: HOUNDDAWG (#388)
#391. To: Original_Intent (#259)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#392. To: IndieTX (#369)
#393. To: wudidiz (#279)
I suspect that maybe Ron Paul was threatened.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#394. To: HOUNDDAWG (#329)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#395. To: robin, christine, lodwick (#394)
#396. To: wbales (#395)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#397. To: robin (#396)
perhaps his hand is being forced
#398. To: Cynicom (#258)
His own presentations were an indicator, allowing lesser men to mock him in front of millions was wrong and someone should have told him so.
#399. To: hammerdown, IndieTx, Jethro Tull, Esso (#308)
#400. To: rowdee (#398)
Maybe Ron should have taken the high road and just walked over and knocked the smirk off some of them's faces, ya think?
#401. To: hammerdown (#308)
#402. To: wbales, rowdee (#395)
If the man sincerely has the political revolution in his heart, he should abandon the Republican (/Democrat) party. He should abandon the House of Representatives. Ron Paul should announce and organize a third political party not as a candidate but as a figurehead--a leader--a centerpoint under which candidates are groomed and supported at all levels of American government. The seed money is in place. The organization is in place. The time is ripe.
#403. To: Cynicom (#400)
Telling them so on TV would have been news that no one could overlook.
#404. To: christinewbales, rowdee (#403)
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#405. To: christinew, bales, rowdee (#403)
#406. To: christine, wbales, rowdee (#403)
#407. To: wbales (#395)
If the man sincerely has the political revolution in his heart, he should abandon the Republican (/Democrat) party. He should abandon the House of Representatives. Ron Paul should announce and organize a third political party not as a candidate but as a figurehead--a leader--a centerpoint under which candidates are groomed and supported at all levels of American government. The seed money is in place. The organization is in place. The time is ripe.
#408. To: Peppa (#407)
It's the 'supporters' that took a dive here... and are trying to drag as many as possible with them. Not a bunch to rally around, as they are just as bad corrupting the process, just like the system already in place. Trust us! We're clean and pure, my ass.
#409. To: Cynicom (#408)
(Edited)
There is no excuse for such language.
#410. To: Cynicom, Anyone who gives a damn anymore (#400)
#411. To: rowdee (#410)
Has everyone lapsed back into bushbot mode?
#412. To: Peppa (#409)
There is no excuse for such language.
#413. To: christine (#402)
#414. To: rowdee (#410)
#415. To: Cynicom (#405)
#416. To: Cynicom (#414)
#417. To: Peppa (#409)
You know what, I think you are a malcontent in need of a soapbox and groupies.
#418. To: wudidiz (#383)
You gotta admit, she looks pretty hot in polka-dots.
Lord Acton
#419. To: Cynicom (#414)
I supported, I gave a great deal of money and to me that entitles me to withdraw and make my views known.
#420. To: Cynicom, LACUMO (#414)
#421. To: TwentyTwelve (#419)
Why don't you use your energy to expose Hillary, Obama, and McCain?
#422. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#420)
#423. To: _______ (#422)
#424. To: robin, Pinguinite, christine, all (#0)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#425. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#423)
#426. To: PnbC (#424)
#427. To: PnbC (#424)
The Ron Paul R3volution is not and should never have been about the man. Listening to him during the campaign, I learned about stuff I thought I already understood. One can only hope that enough people "got it" that these facts can be passed on to our posterity, or even if it is a foreign nation/culture that picks up the banner of liberty
#428. To: _______ (#426)
Jesus didn't quit on the way to the cross.
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
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