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Title: Ron Paul's Goodbye (Jeff Rense)
Source: Rense
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general80/goodbye.htm
Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Jeff Rense
Post Date: 2008-02-10 17:10:32 by robin
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Ron Paul's Goodbye

By Jeff Rense
2-9-8

The real issue now is that Ron Paul is effectively out of the race ....whether he directly came out and said it or not. In his statement of thanks to his supporters (see below), he also announced he's cutting his staff way back. The message is clear. The last Ron Paul 'money bomb' showed a substantial loss of support momentum...which was/is largely the result of his complete public disassociation and denouncement of the entire 911 Truth Movement during that national 'debate' several weeks ago. That was either a bald-faced, enormous, lie to try to keep himself politically 'alive' ... OR that is HIS truth. Either way, it cost him a lot of support. We know several Ron Paul backers who dropped him at that moment... and it was reflected in the failed, subsequent fundraising. His poor showing (absolutely expected) in the primaries was the final truth his devoted supporters had to swallow: the system is totally owned and operated by the controllers. Period. Many Paulites will now walk away from this obviously, hopelessly corrupt and manipulated political charade in America...and will never look back. Some will stay. Ron announced."I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican"and will not leave the party to run as an independent. (A Paul-Kucinich ticket would have at least been FUN). WHAT Republican party?? That was a lamentable statement to read. Ron must be thinking it is still the Republican Party of the 19th century. The Republican 'party' NOW stands for the BIG LIE, it stands for CRIME and DEATH, for GENOCIDE and PERVERSION, for TAXATION and GRAFT, for the FED and FINANCIAL RAPE, for DOMESTIC SPYING and the PATRIOT ACT, ...it stands for the end of LIBERTY and of our CONSTITUTION. Above all, it now stands for Zionism and WAR. That statement alone probably ended about half of his remaining support. As we said many months ago, if he does NOT run as an independent, he will effectively put 'finis' to great portion of the majority of patriotic passion and commitment of the small, brave patriotic awakening he awakened in this rat hole political paradigm. And if the controllers are as smart as we think, they may well have orchestrated much of the 'Paul phenomena' to ultimately send the message, yet again, that 'resistance is futile!' Ron said he needs to go home to Texas and work for his re-election to the House. That's a wise decision because the enemies of freedom and the Constitution, knowing all along he never had a chance in hell of gaining the nomination, will now try to unseat him...and they can do so if it be their will. Ask Cynthia McKinney. So, even though he says he's 'still in the race' it is totally meaningless. Publicly, via his disassociation from 911 Truth, he is 'officially' standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Bush/Cheney and Zionism on 911. He had a GREAT opportunity to bring 911 Truth forward during the campaign...and chose to hide it. And, God forbid, if he really spoke HIS truth in the debate about the whole 911 issue, he is clearly, totally, disconnected from the biggest reality of our time: that 911 was an inside job. Sad to see him give it up...but it was totally predictable and comes as no surprise. For his die-hard supporters and those who cherish America's nearly vanquished past magnificence, keep at it. Work at the local level...run for office... just know that the clock is ticking and the enemies of Freedom stand all around us and often in between us. Of all the great American political leaders who sacrificed their lives for freedom, Ron chose, instead, to quote the zionist maniac killer Communist Trotsky about the 'revolution being permanent.' A strange choice. The statement could have been made without the need to acknowledge a Bolshevik madman. In any case, the 'Ron Paul Revolution' is over... now just a footnote, an asterisk, in the grim record of these darkening times. Certainly, some will endeavor to carry on his themes...something the CIA/NSA supercomputer models knew and predicted long ago. Ron Paul is a grand anachronism...a principled man out of time, as it were. He truly made a difference. And for that we owe him much.

Ron Paul - 'There Will Be
No Third Party Run'
Turns Attention To Keeping His Congressional Seat

Message from Ron Paul
2-9-8

Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well. Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican. I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen. In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me. Sincerely, Ron

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IMO, the best we can hope for is Obama.

Obama was manufactured by our ruling government, he is their Dracula.

His untold millions of dollars is not appearing out of thin air.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   17:46:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

His last message with the Trotsky quote is STILL ON HIS CAMPAIGN WEBSITE. It was written on Feb. 8th. This is the 10th.

Guess we've been had.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   17:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're right to dump him and the history covered with blood that goes with him.

Uhhhh, dont look now but your comprehension is showing again.....

Ron Paul WROTE the email, he dumped us. It is signed love and kisses, Ron.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   17:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Read post #2, perhaps RP had some outside pressure.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   17:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ron Paul WROTE the email, he dumped us. It is signed love and kisses, Ron.

Yep. You've no doubt got the proof. You win.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   17:51:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Read post #2, perhaps RP had some outside pressure.

If I recall correctly, Perot had threats concerning a daughter or some such, he was never able to dispel the doubts that remained.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   17:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Read post #2, perhaps RP had some outside pressure.

Duly noted.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   17:51:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So, even though he says he's 'still in the race' it is totally meaningless. Publicly, via his disassociation from 911 Truth, he is 'officially' standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Bush/Cheney and Zionism on 911.

IOW....

You're either with us, or your with the terrorists.....

It's kind of pathetic to see people getting up on their high horse and blaming Ron Paul for not winning, washing their hands as though they are perfect and if it was THEM running for prez, they would have done it right and won the election.

Suddenly, Ron Paul is garbage.

Modern day pharisee this guy is....

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   17:52:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Recall Perot had "problems" he could never explain to anyones satisfaction?

Yes, I do remember.

Please, I mean, really!

What no one seems to understand is that Perot's wife is a Birminghan, of the British Birminghams, and big, big, big in international banking. Which is where Perot's connections started that made him so wealthy.

'get it'?

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-02-10   17:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Now you are joining the "revelation" gang and that gets quite boring.

Just get your facts straight before telling me I am wrong. That is all that I ask.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-02-10   17:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The lesser of two or three evils is better than the worst evil. Obama strikes me as somewhat outside the system, a more Jimmy Carter type of Democrat. Others have said so too. I'm not even convinced he would be all that bad. A couple days ago I asked the question, can someone tell me why I should not support Obama, given that we are looking at McCain for the GOP nominee.

I'm a realist, and McCain would be "Bush on steroids" according to many.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   17:53:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yep. You've no doubt got the proof. You win.

Win????

Good heavens Pep, I have lost big time, you have lost, America has lost. Ron Paul was my last hope. I do not have the luxury of time to wait years for change, wait for the sheep to awaken, wait until it is too late.

Ron Paul was the last life raft leaving the Titanic and he shoved off saving himself. That is you and me standing at the rail, with nothing.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   17:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's kind of pathetic to see people getting up on their high horse and blaming Ron Paul for not winning,

That's not why. His last Message from Ron, besides including a Trotsky, was about how he is trimming back his campaign staff and concentrating on winning his congressional seat. He said since Romney quit, there is no hope for a brokered convention.

He basically said he quits.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   17:56:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So what have we?

I'm really trying not to read too much into all this. I already knew that the deck was stacked. I already knew that the voting machines were hacked. My big problem here is that I watched his late January message and he said he was in it until the end. He's gotten $5 million since the start of this quarter, so I don't know why he would think he isn't getting enough support, as that's what he said he required.

I really wanted a third party run to give the American people a chance to write in his name. I wanted him to outdo Perot. I figured he had a chance outside the GOP machinery.

So I'm just waiting. I don't blame you for being frustrated with the cynics. I don't blame them for being cynical, either. Rense makes a good point about the 9/11 truth movement, but if Ron Paul decided not to speak out on the issue because he wanted to hang on to normalcy, that may have only been part of his alleged undoing, not the whole thing.

About 4, the freedom to express comes with the freedom to disagree. I'm grateful for the variety of opinions.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   17:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Just get your facts straight before telling me I am wrong. That is all that I ask.

Your facts are only too correct. Nowhere did I say otherwise.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   17:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jimmy Carter type of Democrat. Others have said so too.

I'll get my Obama sticker right now!

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   17:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'll get my Obama sticker right now!

Tut tut now. Lets not jump overboard into the cold water.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   18:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're either with us, or your with the terrorists.....

Very interesting criticism. If you don't (hate, recognize the depth of the conspiracy, feel oppressed, or aren't disenfranchised) enough, you aren't worthy.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   18:01:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I never suggested that!

But in Nov., if my state looks like it is going to McCain, I will vote for Obama, if he is the nominee. Otherwise I'll vote my conscience, Constitution Party.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   18:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm really trying not to read too much into all this. I already knew that the deck was stacked. I already knew that the voting machines were hacked. My big problem here is that I watched his late January message and he said he was in it until the end. He's gotten $5 million since the start of this quarter, so I don't know why he would think he isn't getting enough support, as that's what he said he required.

I really wanted a third party run to give the American people a chance to write in his name. I wanted him to outdo Perot. I figured he had a chance outside the GOP machinery.

So I'm just waiting. I don't blame you for being frustrated with the cynics. I don't blame them for being cynical, either. Rense makes a good point about the 9/11 truth movement, but if Ron Paul decided not to speak out on the issue because he wanted to hang on to normalcy, that may have only been part of his alleged undoing, not the whole thing.

About 4, the freedom to express comes with the freedom to disagree. I'm grateful for the variety of opinions.

Understood.

We simply wait for the thunder.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   18:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So I'm just waiting. I don't blame you for being frustrated with the cynics.

Whizzzzz. I dodged that zinger.

I agree with what you say. Read what richard is saying. He has the fix put in years ago and you call me a cynic????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   18:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Read post #2, perhaps RP had some outside pressure.

???

What more pressure is needed than looking at the current delegate count?

Or maybe the funding?

We've believed Ron has been a man of conscience all these years, never making backroom deals with other congressmen or voting for pork benefiting his own district, and now we're to consider the possibility that someone successfully applied covert pressure on Ron Paul to stop actively campaigning?

I don't see how that could be in the cards. It just does not fit the Ron Paul profile. And there's no more pressure needed than looking at the stats right now. Ron's always been a practical, realistic guy, and the stats are not in his favor in terms of winning. He's done well, better than most of the original GOP contenders.

Witch hunting is out of order here.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   18:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Constitution Party.

Only, no other. I will be watching you.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   18:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I never suggested that!

But in Nov., if my state looks like it is going to McCain, I will vote for Obama, if he is the nominee. Otherwise I'll vote my conscience, Constitution Party.

Mission accomplished.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   18:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Witch hunting is out of order here.

You need to wrestle with richard then, he has the inside story.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   18:06:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ron Paul was the last life raft leaving the Titanic and he shoved off saving himself. That is you and me standing at the rail, with nothing.

Ron Paul is not saving himself. He'll have to live with the same president as the rest of the USA next year, and he certainly isn't leaving anyone in any worse shape than they were in before he declared his candidacy.

You really need to get some correct context here, Cyni!

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   18:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Both Obama and his wife are CFR members. He's just younger and appears less power-hungry than Hillary. Remember, globalism is all about hope for humanity. It's not a hateful endeavor. But some of them believe they can do cruel and otherwise evil things to accomplish their aims, because anyone standing in the way is obstructing progress toward utopia. I say they work for the same team, and the team employs the same goon squads regardless of candidate. Once they know they can use one as a puppet, all obstacles are removed one way or another.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   18:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm not suggesting a witch hunt. If he chooses to end his campaign now, I would like to hear him say that he is NOT endorsing McCain.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   18:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You really need to get some correct context here, Cyni!

Context?? Inferring stupidity needs no context.

richard has a revelation, you say no witch hunting, that leaves the rest of us somewhere in between.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   18:10:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I did not say Obama was a first choice, I said he is far better and safer than McCain.

He has ZBig and the Kennedys behind him.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   18:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Both Obama and his wife are CFR members.

buck...

Millions of dollars pouring into Obama with little effort is not manna from heaven. It was earmarked in care of Obama.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   18:13:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He basically said he quits.

I understand that, of course. He is basically shifting from an active candidate to a passive candidate, and doing it because Romney effectively withdrew from the race, greatly reducing the chance of a brokered convention. Since a BC is (was) the only hope of Ron getting the nomination, then no BC = no victory. Ergo, he's shifting gears accordingly.

Ron is a practically minded guy. A lot of us are too.

Why are some considering this reference to Trotsky as some covert, secret sign that Ron Paul is part of the huge conspiracy instead of just accepting it as some inert reference to something quite plain?

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   18:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Obama has a grassroots appeal. Soros also backs him. He is something of a maverick, whatever else he is.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   18:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

that Ron Paul is part of the huge conspiracy

no, that's not was suggested to my understanding, but that he is signaling he was forced out

You must admit it was very out of character.

Remember, McCain called RP "the spoiler".

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   18:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He has the fix put in years ago and you call me a cynic?

I'm trying to be the peace maker here. I think all of you, including Richard, are very interesting and well worth considering on any given issue. Richard and others on the subject of embedded nullification of the Constitution are very interesting, and yes, very cynical. Much more cynical than you. I'm just amazed that we have the freedom still to express these kinds of ideas.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-10   18:17:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ron is a practically minded guy. A lot of us are too.

I contact Pauls legislative office and they have a standard put off.."We do not answer emails from non constituents"...

Then I get an email from "Ron" and one from "Carol", please send money so I may save my seat in the house.

Practical? Trying to con more money from his loyal supporters? And richard says they are wealthy beyond our imagination. One of or both of you are wrong.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   18:19:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

But in Nov., if my state looks like it is going to McCain, I will vote for Obama, if he is the nominee. Otherwise I'll vote my conscience, Constitution Party.

I'd vote for whatever candidate is most likely to bring the troops home. The USA is screwed no matter what, so regardless of what domestic/economic plans are proposed, the most responsible obligation to the rest of the world is to shut down the empire. If Obama would bring troops home while destroying the USA internally, fine. We're toast anyway and we owe it to the world to end the empire no matter what the cost to ourselves.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   18:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Obama has a grassroots appeal. Soros also backs him. He is something of a maverick, whatever else he is.

Obama was manufactured that Hillary might have some visible and viable competition to make it look good for the sheep.

We have seen much ado from the "republican" candidates, now think what ado have you seen from the democrats other than Hillary/Obama? Not a word, almost as strange as the silence surrounding Paul.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   18:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'd vote for whatever candidate is most likely to bring the troops home.

Which is the main reason I am thinking of voting for him in Nov, assuming he is there, which is a big assumption.

Hillary will not commit to a timeline for withdrawing the troops and McCain has assured us all that he wants 100 years of wars; probably starting next with Iran.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   18:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He's looking good to win; currently he has more delgates. I'll get back to you after the conventions.

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