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Title: Ron Paul's Goodbye (Jeff Rense)
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URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general80/goodbye.htm
Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Jeff Rense
Post Date: 2008-02-10 17:10:32 by robin
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Ron Paul's Goodbye
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#39. To: Peppa (#38)
Tut tut now. Lets not jump overboard into the cold water.
Very interesting criticism. If you don't (hate, recognize the depth of the conspiracy, feel oppressed, or aren't disenfranchised) enough, you aren't worthy.
I never suggested that! But in Nov., if my state looks like it is going to McCain, I will vote for Obama, if he is the nominee. Otherwise I'll vote my conscience, Constitution Party.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! I really wanted a third party run to give the American people a chance to write in his name. I wanted him to outdo Perot. I figured he had a chance outside the GOP machinery. So I'm just waiting. I don't blame you for being frustrated with the cynics. I don't blame them for being cynical, either. Rense makes a good point about the 9/11 truth movement, but if Ron Paul decided not to speak out on the issue because he wanted to hang on to normalcy, that may have only been part of his alleged undoing, not the whole thing. About 4, the freedom to express comes with the freedom to disagree. I'm grateful for the variety of opinions. Understood. We simply wait for the thunder.
Whizzzzz. I dodged that zinger. I agree with what you say. Read what richard is saying. He has the fix put in years ago and you call me a cynic????
??? What more pressure is needed than looking at the current delegate count? Or maybe the funding? We've believed Ron has been a man of conscience all these years, never making backroom deals with other congressmen or voting for pork benefiting his own district, and now we're to consider the possibility that someone successfully applied covert pressure on Ron Paul to stop actively campaigning? I don't see how that could be in the cards. It just does not fit the Ron Paul profile. And there's no more pressure needed than looking at the stats right now. Ron's always been a practical, realistic guy, and the stats are not in his favor in terms of winning. He's done well, better than most of the original GOP contenders. Witch hunting is out of order here.
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Only, no other. I will be watching you.
But in Nov., if my state looks like it is going to McCain, I will vote for Obama, if he is the nominee. Otherwise I'll vote my conscience, Constitution Party. Mission accomplished.
You need to wrestle with richard then, he has the inside story.
Ron Paul is not saving himself. He'll have to live with the same president as the rest of the USA next year, and he certainly isn't leaving anyone in any worse shape than they were in before he declared his candidacy. You really need to get some correct context here, Cyni!
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Both Obama and his wife are CFR members. He's just younger and appears less power-hungry than Hillary. Remember, globalism is all about hope for humanity. It's not a hateful endeavor. But some of them believe they can do cruel and otherwise evil things to accomplish their aims, because anyone standing in the way is obstructing progress toward utopia. I say they work for the same team, and the team employs the same goon squads regardless of candidate. Once they know they can use one as a puppet, all obstacles are removed one way or another.
I'm not suggesting a witch hunt. If he chooses to end his campaign now, I would like to hear him say that he is NOT endorsing McCain.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! Context?? Inferring stupidity needs no context. richard has a revelation, you say no witch hunting, that leaves the rest of us somewhere in between.
I did not say Obama was a first choice, I said he is far better and safer than McCain. He has ZBig and the Kennedys behind him.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! buck... Millions of dollars pouring into Obama with little effort is not manna from heaven. It was earmarked in care of Obama.
I understand that, of course. He is basically shifting from an active candidate to a passive candidate, and doing it because Romney effectively withdrew from the race, greatly reducing the chance of a brokered convention. Since a BC is (was) the only hope of Ron getting the nomination, then no BC = no victory. Ergo, he's shifting gears accordingly. Ron is a practically minded guy. A lot of us are too. Why are some considering this reference to Trotsky as some covert, secret sign that Ron Paul is part of the huge conspiracy instead of just accepting it as some inert reference to something quite plain?
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Obama has a grassroots appeal. Soros also backs him. He is something of a maverick, whatever else he is.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! no, that's not was suggested to my understanding, but that he is signaling he was forced out You must admit it was very out of character. Remember, McCain called RP "the spoiler".
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! I'm trying to be the peace maker here. I think all of you, including Richard, are very interesting and well worth considering on any given issue. Richard and others on the subject of embedded nullification of the Constitution are very interesting, and yes, very cynical. Much more cynical than you. I'm just amazed that we have the freedom still to express these kinds of ideas.
I contact Pauls legislative office and they have a standard put off.."We do not answer emails from non constituents"... Then I get an email from "Ron" and one from "Carol", please send money so I may save my seat in the house. Practical? Trying to con more money from his loyal supporters? And richard says they are wealthy beyond our imagination. One of or both of you are wrong.
I'd vote for whatever candidate is most likely to bring the troops home. The USA is screwed no matter what, so regardless of what domestic/economic plans are proposed, the most responsible obligation to the rest of the world is to shut down the empire. If Obama would bring troops home while destroying the USA internally, fine. We're toast anyway and we owe it to the world to end the empire no matter what the cost to ourselves.
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Obama was manufactured that Hillary might have some visible and viable competition to make it look good for the sheep. We have seen much ado from the "republican" candidates, now think what ado have you seen from the democrats other than Hillary/Obama? Not a word, almost as strange as the silence surrounding Paul.
Which is the main reason I am thinking of voting for him in Nov, assuming he is there, which is a big assumption. Hillary will not commit to a timeline for withdrawing the troops and McCain has assured us all that he wants 100 years of wars; probably starting next with Iran.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! He's looking good to win; currently he has more delgates. I'll get back to you after the conventions.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! You need to wrestle with richard then, he has the inside story. He's got a good number of stories. Some I appreciate and agree with, but the idea that the PTB's can be easily persuaded to let you live in complete freedom just by arguing the right things to the right thugs doesn't quite work for me. Sorry.
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Ping... We can agree on that. Anyone that looks around on their own will find this government/military is not planning well beyond the Iraq thing, they are preparing physically.
What I recall, FWIWorth, is that a Bush Sr operative had some porno photos of Perot's daughter that they threatened to release to the compliant and bought media if he kept at his presidential run. It was never clear to me if the photos were real or fabricated, and I guess it doesn't matter. If true, it does show how corrupt the Bush's are and that, as George sr. said, "I will do anything to win the race, Anything". Like over see a presidential assasination?
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I am sending an inspector around first thing tomorrow morning to check your drinking water.
Excellent analysis because... it coincides, almost word for word, with my analysis from many moons ago. :))))) The Ron Paul revolution inside the GOP teapot ended up legitimizing the 2-party system and reinforcing the idea that the 2-party is 'all there is out there', 'rationally and realistically speaking'.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
anything, including JFK's assassination Perot's reasons for quitting were peculiar or he was forced out. Something that might be true of RP, we just don't know. But his last message was very odd. Sr. Bush didn't want a spoiler for his election chances either, and McCain has called RP a spoiler.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! I think it quite silly to suspect that he would endorse McCain, so I don't see why this is important to you. He's just as likely to rip up a copy of the Constitution at a press conference, if you ask me.
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So we are on the non-party train with Obama now. Hey, brilliant analysis and prediction!
tom It is spiteful of you to post here since we know where you are. Just plain mean.
He just made a big deal about remaining a Republican; no 3rd party race. The usual party practice is to support the party's nominee.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! Assuming he has turncoated many times before, this is to be expected.
I am sure that Dr. Paul himself is very sincere and in no way a part of any conspiracy.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! I would never call Dr. Paul a turncoat. Why do you say that? He is the true conservative. Running 3rd party would have been a good choice for him to make, and would have helped defeat McCain.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! Just plain mean. Well I do have a return ticket in a few weeks. O But I do have to stop over in the Fiji islands for a week tho. Tough job, man, somebodys got to do it.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" I was stupid for asking such a question. These are Pauls words. " But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican." McCain is a republican and I consider it perfectly unstupid and unsilly to ask a simple question. You took our money, do you endorse McCain.
Of course he is sincere. Getting out of the GOP charade is something that he should have done a long time ago.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Pep... There you go again.
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#40. To: Pinguinite (#30)
You're either with us, or your with the terrorists.....
#41. To: Peppa, Cynicom (#38)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#42. To: buckeye (#36)
I'm really trying not to read too much into all this. I already knew that the deck was stacked. I already knew that the voting machines were hacked. My big problem here is that I watched his late January message and he said he was in it until the end. He's gotten $5 million since the start of this quarter, so I don't know why he would think he isn't getting enough support, as that's what he said he required.
#43. To: buckeye (#36)
So I'm just waiting. I don't blame you for being frustrated with the cynics.
#44. To: robin (#26)
Read post #2, perhaps RP had some outside pressure.
#45. To: robin (#41)
Constitution Party.
#46. To: robin (#41)
I never suggested that!
#47. To: Pinguinite (#44)
Witch hunting is out of order here.
#48. To: Cynicom (#34)
Ron Paul was the last life raft leaving the Titanic and he shoved off saving himself. That is you and me standing at the rail, with nothing.
#49. To: robin, Peppa, Cynicom (#41)
#50. To: Pinguinite (#44)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#51. To: Pinguinite (#48)
You really need to get some correct context here, Cyni!
#52. To: buckeye (#49)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#53. To: buckeye (#49)
Both Obama and his wife are CFR members.
#54. To: robin (#35)
He basically said he quits.
#55. To: Cynicom (#53)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#56. To: Pinguinite (#54)
(Edited)
that Ron Paul is part of the huge conspiracy
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#57. To: Cynicom, richard9151 (#43)
He has the fix put in years ago and you call me a cynic?
#58. To: Pinguinite (#54)
Ron is a practically minded guy. A lot of us are too.
#59. To: robin (#41)
But in Nov., if my state looks like it is going to McCain, I will vote for Obama, if he is the nominee. Otherwise I'll vote my conscience, Constitution Party.
#60. To: robin (#55)
Obama has a grassroots appeal. Soros also backs him. He is something of a maverick, whatever else he is.
#61. To: Pinguinite (#59)
I'd vote for whatever candidate is most likely to bring the troops home.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#62. To: Cynicom (#60)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#63. To: Cynicom, richard9151 (#47)
#64. To: Pinguinite (#59)
The USA is screwed no matter what
#65. To: Cynicom, robin (#10)
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Recall Perot had "problems" he could never explain to anyones satisfaction?
#66. To: robin (#61)
Which is the main reason I am thinking of voting for him in Nov, assuming he is there, which is a big assumption.
#67. To: robin (#0)
As we said many months ago, if he does NOT run as an independent, he will effectively put 'finis' to great portion of the majority of patriotic passion and commitment of the small, brave patriotic awakening he awakened in this rat hole political paradigm. And if the controllers are as smart as we think, they may well have orchestrated much of the 'Paul phenomena' to ultimately send the message, yet again, that 'resistance is futile!'
#68. To: tom007 (#65)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#69. To: robin (#50)
I would like to hear him say that he is NOT endorsing McCain.
#70. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#67)
The Ron Paul revolution inside the GOP teapot ended up legitimizing the 2-party system and reinforcing the idea that the 2-party is 'all there is out there', 'rationally and realistically speaking'.
#71. To: tom007 (#65)
#72. To: Pinguinite (#69)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#73. To: robin (#72)
The usual party practice is to support the party's nominee.
#74. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#67)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#75. To: Peppa (#73)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#76. To: Cynicom (#71)
(Edited)
It is spiteful of you to post here since we know where you are.
#77. To: Pinguinite (#69)
I think it quite silly to suspect that he would endorse McCain,
#78. To: robin (#74)
#79. To: Peppa (#73)
Assuming he has turncoated many times before, this is to be expected.
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