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Title: Ron Paul's Goodbye (Jeff Rense)
Source: Rense
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general80/goodbye.htm
Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Jeff Rense
Post Date: 2008-02-10 17:10:32 by robin
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Ron Paul's Goodbye

By Jeff Rense
2-9-8

The real issue now is that Ron Paul is effectively out of the race ....whether he directly came out and said it or not. In his statement of thanks to his supporters (see below), he also announced he's cutting his staff way back. The message is clear. The last Ron Paul 'money bomb' showed a substantial loss of support momentum...which was/is largely the result of his complete public disassociation and denouncement of the entire 911 Truth Movement during that national 'debate' several weeks ago. That was either a bald-faced, enormous, lie to try to keep himself politically 'alive' ... OR that is HIS truth. Either way, it cost him a lot of support. We know several Ron Paul backers who dropped him at that moment... and it was reflected in the failed, subsequent fundraising. His poor showing (absolutely expected) in the primaries was the final truth his devoted supporters had to swallow: the system is totally owned and operated by the controllers. Period. Many Paulites will now walk away from this obviously, hopelessly corrupt and manipulated political charade in America...and will never look back. Some will stay. Ron announced."I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican"and will not leave the party to run as an independent. (A Paul-Kucinich ticket would have at least been FUN). WHAT Republican party?? That was a lamentable statement to read. Ron must be thinking it is still the Republican Party of the 19th century. The Republican 'party' NOW stands for the BIG LIE, it stands for CRIME and DEATH, for GENOCIDE and PERVERSION, for TAXATION and GRAFT, for the FED and FINANCIAL RAPE, for DOMESTIC SPYING and the PATRIOT ACT, ...it stands for the end of LIBERTY and of our CONSTITUTION. Above all, it now stands for Zionism and WAR. That statement alone probably ended about half of his remaining support. As we said many months ago, if he does NOT run as an independent, he will effectively put 'finis' to great portion of the majority of patriotic passion and commitment of the small, brave patriotic awakening he awakened in this rat hole political paradigm. And if the controllers are as smart as we think, they may well have orchestrated much of the 'Paul phenomena' to ultimately send the message, yet again, that 'resistance is futile!' Ron said he needs to go home to Texas and work for his re-election to the House. That's a wise decision because the enemies of freedom and the Constitution, knowing all along he never had a chance in hell of gaining the nomination, will now try to unseat him...and they can do so if it be their will. Ask Cynthia McKinney. So, even though he says he's 'still in the race' it is totally meaningless. Publicly, via his disassociation from 911 Truth, he is 'officially' standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Bush/Cheney and Zionism on 911. He had a GREAT opportunity to bring 911 Truth forward during the campaign...and chose to hide it. And, God forbid, if he really spoke HIS truth in the debate about the whole 911 issue, he is clearly, totally, disconnected from the biggest reality of our time: that 911 was an inside job. Sad to see him give it up...but it was totally predictable and comes as no surprise. For his die-hard supporters and those who cherish America's nearly vanquished past magnificence, keep at it. Work at the local level...run for office... just know that the clock is ticking and the enemies of Freedom stand all around us and often in between us. Of all the great American political leaders who sacrificed their lives for freedom, Ron chose, instead, to quote the zionist maniac killer Communist Trotsky about the 'revolution being permanent.' A strange choice. The statement could have been made without the need to acknowledge a Bolshevik madman. In any case, the 'Ron Paul Revolution' is over... now just a footnote, an asterisk, in the grim record of these darkening times. Certainly, some will endeavor to carry on his themes...something the CIA/NSA supercomputer models knew and predicted long ago. Ron Paul is a grand anachronism...a principled man out of time, as it were. He truly made a difference. And for that we owe him much.

Ron Paul - 'There Will Be
No Third Party Run'
Turns Attention To Keeping His Congressional Seat

Message from Ron Paul
2-9-8

Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well. Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican. I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen. In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me. Sincerely, Ron

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Barring that event of course! That will leave US in entirely in the hands of the Knesset.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   19:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

OK, do you prefer McCain or Hillary?

Some choice, do you want to be hung or shot.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   19:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Shot, she probably can't aim well.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   20:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

McCain is the worst, IMO. If he picks Lieberman as VP, look for McCain to be assassinated if he gets elected.

Oh my...you're right about that. McCain/Lieberman would probably be the worst ticket ever, although Hillary/Obama or vice versa is right up there.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-10   20:01:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Odds are Clinton/Obama and McCain/Giuliani.

Regardless of who wins, Tel Aviv wins.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   20:03:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I find it interesting that Hillary has shucked her campaign manager.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   20:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I find it interesting that Hillary has shucked her campaign manager.

I find it amazing she didn't do it earlier ... what a schmuck!

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-10   20:14:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As I see it Obama has one choice in this years selection. He can either be Hillary's lawn jockey as VP or wait 8 years until it's his turn for the throne. I feel certain the Clinton's have many poison pills scattered about the political landscape and won't hesitate to use them as needed.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-10   20:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As I see it Obama has one choice in this years selection. He can either be Hillary's lawn jockey as VP or wait 8 years until it's his turn for the throne.

Obama will be used and thrown away.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   20:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Very disappointing, that he will not be running as a 3rd party candidate. He has plenty of money to run and continue to get the true conservative message out in this way.

I consider you one of the brighter ones on this forum. However, your statement above does not point that out.

If Ron Paul couldn't get his message out running in the GOP party, was included in all the regular debates, how in the hell would he get his message out as a third party candidate? just stop and think what you're proposing here. Ron Paul does not have hundreds of millions of dollars like Perot has. The MSM would continue to marginalize him running as a third party candidate. The very best a third party candidate can do is spend one heckofa lot of money and at best would be a spoiler.

I hope you also realize that he can not run as a third party candidate after running and losing as a candidate in another party for that same office for the same election cycle. That is to insure the two wings of our one party can stay in power indefinitely. Now, do you finally get a grasp on the election rules?

The 19th amendment has been a curse for America as far as I'm concerned. Women voting gave us dumb ass dumbya. Many women professed they would vote for dumbya as he was 'such a hunk'. Helluva reason to vote for a candidate! Now there are women by the millions clamouring to vote for the hildebeast just because she is a women. Ain't that grand? If she was a truly good candidate, I would vote for her. Unfortunately she is as bad as all the others.

Those who abondoned Ron Paul after he refused to take a stand on whether 9-11 was an inside job are a joke to me They can go drink monkey piss with all the other one issue voters. Had we been able to get him elected, we just might have elected the one man who would have unraveled what actually happened that day. Had he took a stand on that issue as a believer it was an inside job in any of the debates, he probably would already be a statistic of the Jimmy Hoffa type.

The two birds of prey, demons and pubbierats would have had even more fodder to use point him and us(his supporters) and even bigger looney tunes than they have been doing. He showed statesman like classs in his handling of the 9-11 issue. Taking one side or the other would have cost him votes either way. No, he never compromised his principles even once since he started his campaign and that goes to prove what a great statesman he is and points out what a great president he would be.

I believe we will not see the likes of another candidate like Ron Paul ever again. The next time someone comes along that appears to be like him may very well be the anti-christ. Leave it up to the Americans to screw things up and themselves in the process. As someone's tag line says, ' If America is destroyed it just may be from within, by a flag waving,patriotic appering person (s) and that person(s) may very well be all of us.

There isn't 1/10 of 1% of the population that would be willing to put their ass on the line to fight the fight that would restore America back to it's previous greatness. We have been dumbed down for too long, been marginalized too long, spoiled with greed for too long, and now we are going to find out what we really deserve and have coming down the road. I can assure you 'it ain't gonna be a picnic'.Anyone who can't see it coming or can't see the severity of it will, well I feel sorry for them

Ron Paul may well be a distant memory to many former supporters come this november, but he won't to me. I will write in a vote for him as will my wife. Maybe that will help lighten any burden placed upon us when the punishment comes our way. At least we will know like Dr. Paul, we never compromised.

I will not edit this comment. Eye sight too bad and this is pretty long.

LACUMO  posted on  2008-02-10   20:18:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Indeed, it is difficult, if not impossible, to envision Hillary being denied.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-10   20:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Obama will be used and thrown away.

Yep, he's a warm up act for the diversity crowd. He's done well and the rails are greased for a non-white after the CLinton's are done.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-10   20:25:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To the extent that McCain is on the GOP ticket, I will joyfully go out and vote for Obama and bring my wife with me and talk as many of my neighbors as I can reach to come and try to help us avoid the McCain plague.

McCain is a lock.

I've been busy but SAP my intention is to stick an Obama sign in beside my ole RP one.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-10   20:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yep, he's a warm up act for the diversity crowd. He's done well and the rails are greased for a non-white after the CLinton's are done.

...which is why the media are puffing up Obama right now.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-10   20:34:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I've not seen him say he's throwing in the towel to do something else...can you point me to that.

ping to the reaction by Jeff Rense

Ron Paul's last message, which has been posted here with the Trotsky quote is pretty much goodbye to the presidential campaign. He states he will be concentrating on his congressional seat.

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robin  posted on  2008-02-10   20:35:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I really wanted a third party run to give the American people a chance to write in his name. I wanted him to outdo Perot. I figured he had a chance outside the GOP machinery.

He's always said from day one he had no plans to run 3rd party and has given his reasons why (which I agree with). If he can't win the GOP nomination, there's no way he'd win the Presidential election as an independent. All of this is for naught anyway because there's no way a Democrat won't be winning this election. In some respects I think it is a good thing for reasons: 1) The revolution has been sparked. 2) Whoever wins this election is going to inherit the most impossible set of circumstances and will be doomed to failure, taking the brunt of the collapse that was induced by the Bush Administration's poor policies. No one will be able to stop what's inevitably going to happen in the coming years, not even Ron. After their failure, the stage will be set for a RonPaulitician to enter many elected offices so long as the R3volution remains active.

Ncturnal  posted on  2008-02-10   20:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Everyone can still write-in Ron Paul. That's probably the best that can be done.

As things stand right now (McCain's a lock) I'll be voting for Obama ... cancel out a bigot.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-10   20:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I agree with you on all but the woman part for Bush. Gore was a lithsping geek with the stink of Clinton and no mention of Alqueda and all during the first debates. It was all about tax cuts and the economy, building an ownership society and no nation building. This woman, thought he debated better than Gore and had no party affiliation before that.

Then came Kerry, after the 4 year bitchathon, we were all tired of. Kerry said, we should only go to war and die under the flag of the UN. His wife was a flaming nutbar, and let's face it, he could put a rock to sleep.

Bush got selected and elected, withstanding no real competition, or knowledge of the greater game and fraud put upon the public.

Fox News, relatively unknown, was hyped by sites like NewsMax. Without a full on media orgasm where it was politics 24/7, the result, you have to admit, would've been exactly the same.

Our policy makers, may have warmed different chairs at the table, but they would've still been there. IMO.

Otherwise, I think we agree on everything else.

If you need something to throw at me, onions are popular today.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-10   20:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're a freakin great American, and I do mean that sincerely and not in the hannity sense of the word.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   20:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As things stand right now (McCain's a lock)

How do you figure? The Democrats are outdrawing the Pubbies 2 and 3 to 1 at all primaries. I don't even think they could fix this one in favor of McLame if they wanted to.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-10   20:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We've believed Ron has been a man of conscience all these years, never making backroom deals

Maybe WV was a sign.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   20:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No, no, no.

This is another Clinton being (s)elected.

McInsane might off himself election night when he finally figures it out.

(and that appears to be the only reason I'll be tuning in that night)

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   20:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He'll have to live with the same president as the rest of the USA next year, and he certainly isn't leaving anyone in any worse shape than they were in before he declared his candidacy.

You really need to get some correct context here, Cyni!

I'm sure you maxed your $2,200, bought lots of slimjims-yardsigns-banners, chunked in for blimps and vote counts, etc.

Ron Paul lives here and he FILES HERE, right?

Right?

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   20:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Weren't the people paying attention when the writers at the world jew congress, aipac, jinsa, adl and every other anti- America organization announced Hillary! as the next president-elect about six months ago?

That kind of spoiled the show for me. What's the point of pretending to vote when they tell you the outcome beforehand?

Gee, I guess that would make you the "world jew congress, aipac, jinsa, adl and every other anti- America organization" dream voter wouldn't it?

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-10   20:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Both Obama and his wife are CFR members. He's just younger and appears less power-hungry than Hillary. Remember, globalism is all about hope for humanity. It's not a hateful endeavor. But some of them believe they can do cruel and otherwise evil things to accomplish their aims, because anyone standing in the way is obstructing progress toward utopia. I say they work for the same team, and the team employs the same goon squads regardless of candidate. Once they know they can use one as a puppet, all obstacles are removed one way or another.

I say BINGO.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   21:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why are some considering this reference to Trotsky as some covert, secret sign that Ron Paul is part of the huge conspiracy instead of just accepting it as some inert reference to something quite plain?

Silly, silly boy.........using the word 'Trotsky' was a secret signal by Ron to the neocons saying essentially 'mission accomplished'. HAven't you heard that he is in on the jewish plot to overtake the world and that by ruining anyone else's chances for a run on a 3rd party ticket--cause everyone was hoping he'd defect from the gop and go the 3rd way--he was to stop anyone that could absolutely win in November.

Sheesh, I thought everyone knew that.........oh way==sorry, you're down in the little "E".

< /sarcasm>

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!

rowdee  posted on  2008-02-10   21:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And you think that if Soros tells him to jump that's he'll just tell Soros to go take a flying leap?

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!

rowdee  posted on  2008-02-10   21:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

All of this is for naught anyway because there's no way a Democrat won't be winning this election. In some respects I think it is a good thing for reasons: 1) The revolution has been sparked. 2) Whoever wins this election is going to inherit the most impossible set of circumstances and will be doomed to failure, taking the brunt of the collapse that was induced by the Bush Administration's poor policies.

good comments, Ncturnal. welcome!

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-10   21:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Maybe WV was a sign.

what's WV?

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-10   21:04:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm sorry but whatever your point is, I completely missed it.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   21:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

After their failure, the stage will be set for a RonPaulitician to enter many elected offices so long as the R3volution remains active.

The Paul revolution ended yesterday, in disgrace.

As for the aftermath of Bush...Everything is set in place for our coming total government. The NWO will have arrived.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   21:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

OOOOooooooohhhhh..... thank you rowdee..... Dang I feel sooo stOOOOpid... Shoulda caught that.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   21:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think that be West "by God" Virginia, as it's sometimes known around the area. ________'s reference to the caucus where RP people made a deal with Huck to vote for him to give him the victory over Romney in exchange for 3 delegates.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   21:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

WV is Paul throwing his votes to Huckster in exchange for 3 delegates to beat Romney.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   21:12:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   21:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Even if it means McCain will be elected in your state?

Good point. We wouldn't want to waste our vote on Ron Paul if it would help McCain. That would make a vote for Ron a vote for McCain....

Seriously, I guess it's pretty much a decision for each to make. Is the difference between the D and McCain strong enough to warrant voting for the D, OR is the vote more likely to make a worthwhile impact with the vote counters when cast as a write in for Ron Paul. This assumes the elections aren't rigged, of course, though that consideration would make the write-in the correct choice.

And then you have to figure how much a difference your vote would make when mixed in with the other 100 million.

You know, Ecuador's population of about 13 million means an Ecuadorian vote for prez carries about 25 times more weight than an American's same vote for prez. One of the problems with the USA is that its too damn big.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   21:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

As things stand right now (McCain's a lock)

How do you figure?

My bad ... I meant a lock for nomination.

I just want a landslide stake in the heart of the Plutocrat Party.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-10   21:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, he got 3 delegates out of it, which is more than he would have without the deal.

Ron is principled, but also practical. Then again, had the state gone to Romney, maybe there's a chance he'd still be in the race so maybe in hindsight that backfired. Then again, Romney's withdrawal shows us that he probably wanted to avoid a brokered convention and would have acted to prevent it anyway.

So in the end, the result would have been the same.

Pretty screwed up system.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   21:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You did fine, just fine.

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!

rowdee  posted on  2008-02-10   21:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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