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Title: Ron Paul's Goodbye (Jeff Rense)
Source: Rense
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general80/goodbye.htm
Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Jeff Rense
Post Date: 2008-02-10 17:10:32 by robin
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Ron Paul's Goodbye

By Jeff Rense
2-9-8

The real issue now is that Ron Paul is effectively out of the race ....whether he directly came out and said it or not. In his statement of thanks to his supporters (see below), he also announced he's cutting his staff way back. The message is clear.
The last Ron Paul 'money bomb' showed a substantial loss of support momentum...which was/is largely the result of his complete public disassociation and denouncement of the entire 911 Truth Movement during that national 'debate' several weeks ago.

That was either a bald-faced, enormous, lie to try to keep himself politically 'alive' ... OR that is HIS truth.
Either way, it cost him a lot of support.
We know several Ron Paul backers who dropped him at that moment... and it was reflected in the failed, subsequent fundraising.
His poor showing (absolutely expected) in the primaries was the final truth his devoted supporters had to swallow: the system is totally owned and operated by the controllers. Period.

Many Paulites will now walk away from this obviously, hopelessly corrupt and manipulated political charade in America...and will never look back. Some will stay.
Ron announced."I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican"and will not leave the party to run as an independent. (A Paul-Kucinich ticket would have at least been FUN).
WHAT Republican party?? That was a lamentable statement to read. Ron must be thinking it is still the Republican Party of the 19th century.

The Republican 'party' NOW stands for the BIG LIE, it stands for CRIME and DEATH, for GENOCIDE and PERVERSION, for TAXATION and GRAFT, for the FED and FINANCIAL RAPE, for DOMESTIC SPYING and the PATRIOT ACT, ...it stands for the end of LIBERTY and of our CONSTITUTION. Above all, it now stands for Zionism and WAR.
That statement alone probably ended about half of his remaining support. As we said many months ago, if he does NOT run as an independent, he will effectively put 'finis' to great portion of the majority of patriotic passion and commitment of the small, brave patriotic awakening he awakened in this rat hole political paradigm. And if the controllers are as smart as we think, they may well have orchestrated much of the 'Paul phenomena' to ultimately send the message, yet again, that 'resistance is futile!'
Ron said he needs to go home to Texas and work for his re-election to the House. That's a wise decision because the enemies of freedom and the Constitution, knowing all along he never had a chance in hell of gaining the nomination, will now try to unseat him...and they can do so if it be their will. Ask Cynthia McKinney.
So, even though he says he's 'still in the race' it is totally meaningless. Publicly, via his disassociation from 911 Truth, he is 'officially' standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Bush/Cheney and Zionism on 911.

He had a GREAT opportunity to bring 911 Truth forward during the campaign...and chose to hide it.
And, God forbid, if he really spoke HIS truth in the debate about the whole 911 issue, he is clearly, totally, disconnected from the biggest reality of our time: that 911 was an inside job.
Sad to see him give it up...but it was totally predictable and comes as no surprise. For his die-hard supporters and those who cherish America's nearly vanquished past magnificence, keep at it. Work at the local level...run for office... just know that the clock is ticking and the enemies of Freedom stand all around us and often in between us.

Of all the great American political leaders who sacrificed their lives for freedom, Ron chose, instead, to quote the zionist maniac killer Communist Trotsky about the 'revolution being permanent.' A strange choice. The statement could have been made without the need to acknowledge a Bolshevik madman.
In any case, the 'Ron Paul Revolution' is over... now just a footnote, an asterisk, in the grim record of these darkening times. Certainly, some will endeavor to carry on his themes...something the CIA/NSA supercomputer models knew and predicted long ago.
Ron Paul is a grand anachronism...a principled man out of time, as it were. He truly made a difference. And for that we owe him much.

Ron Paul - 'There Will Be
No Third Party Run'
Turns Attention To Keeping His Congressional Seat

Message from Ron Paul
2-9-8
Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well.

Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican.
I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen.
In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me.
Sincerely,

Ron
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#225. To: christine (#184)

i agree with _______ who questioned, "How is having a seat in a corrupt Congress as the "Titanic" sinks more important than running a massive message/real effort to win 3rd Party campaign through to November?"

I think if Ron honestly thought that the chances of winning a 3rd party prez run was worth forfeiting his congressional seat, he'd have gone for it. As it is, he sees going indi as a worthless effort, and therefore wants to ensure the consolation prize of keeping his C seat.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   22:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#226. To: Pinguinite (#225)

Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well.

Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero.

Even Today (2-10-08), A Possible Brokered Convention Exists!

By PrimaryBomb.com | February 10, 2008

But……… unless you’re reading about it here, you probably won’t hear about it.

I’m the evil, “kool-aid” drinking, misleading patriot that has been working since the second week in January of 2008 to get the word out about a possible “brokered convention”.

Yes, even today (2-10-08 at approximately 7:30PM CST) the possibility of a “brokered convention” still exists. Like a flower, each day, each hour, each minute that goes by, it’s life withers away.

Read More »

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   22:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#227. To: Pinguinite (#225)

I think if Ron honestly thought that the chances of winning a 3rd party prez run was worth forfeiting his congressional seat, he'd have gone for it.

That is not stupid but is convoluted thinking.

Ron Paul and no one here ever had the illusion that Paul would win. No one.

We were hoping for a start, Paul put himself out there, he was not drafted, he asked for and received our money, millions of it and then took a dive.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   22:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#228. To: Fred Mertz (#190)

Did I get the wrong version of the news?

I think it is fact that a deal was struck between RP and Huck in WV. I remember seeing mention of it on RP2008.com. Maybe McCain did it also, or did it for free.

BTW, is it for certain that Ron Paul himself made that deal, or might it have been his delegate underlings in WV acting without RP's oversight?

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   22:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#229. To: Pinguinite (#225)

If Dr. Ron really thought there was any future left, he'd have planted his flag with the Constitution Party and put some wind into their wings. As it is now, he'll slide back into irrelevance his remaining however many terms and be another one of 435 that only the remnant remember. What a waste.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   22:45:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#230. To: Cynicom (#227)

Ron Paul and no one here ever had the illusion that Paul would win. No one.

We were hoping for a start, Paul put himself out there, he was not drafted, he asked for and received our money, millions of it and then took a dive.

The revolution spark needed more time to flame.

Damn I'm pissed off.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   22:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#231. To: _______ (#230)

The revolution spark needed more time to flame.

Good thing General Washington did not take a hike from Valley Forge.

He was made of sterner material and the Brits had a price on his head.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   22:49:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#232. To: Cynicom (#224)

It was William F. Buckley, Jr.

oh!!! I never heard that. it is funny

kiki  posted on  2008-02-10   22:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#233. To: Cynicom (#220)

Better yet why did he take my money and run???? I took nothing from him.

Ummm.... I think you gave it to him. Or did he have a gun?

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-10   22:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#234. To: Pinguinite (#233)

Ummm.... I think you gave it to him. Or did he have a gun?

Cute...

He was a false prophet and it shows. People better get use to it.

Perot was one, he left us with nothing but he spent mostly his own money.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   22:54:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#235. To: Cynicom, _______ (#231)


My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles,
and the letters get in the wrong places.
-- Winnie the Pooh

farmfriend  posted on  2008-02-10   22:56:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#236. To: Cynicom (#234)

On the bright side, I was only hours away from sending a wad down to Ron Paul for Congress and as I set up the screen that "Message from Ron" came in.

Now I'm going to invest it in more useful ways. BLOAT

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   22:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#237. To: Cynicom (#231)

The revolution spark needed more time to flame.

Good thing General Washington did not take a hike from Valley Forge.

He was made of sterner material and the Brits had a price on his head.

I have a hunch, call it an intuition, that a message made it to Ron at CPAC.

The one that romney got.

Just a hunch.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   22:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#238. To: farmfriend (#235)

My kind of park!

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   22:59:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#239. To: _______ (#238)

SeadogBytes has some great art work. I was looking up some of his stuff on Pelosi for another forum and came across that.


My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles,
and the letters get in the wrong places.
-- Winnie the Pooh

farmfriend  posted on  2008-02-10   23:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#240. To: farmfriend (#239)

President’s Day Money Bomb

By scri | February 10, 2008

There is a Money Bomb slated for President’s Day Feb. 18th. Let’s show the WORLD Ron Paul is the PEOPLE’S choice. Thanks, get the word out about Feb.18th.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   23:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#241. To: _______, Cynicom (#237)

fwiw, i don't think that Ron Paul will endorse McCain.

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-10   23:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#242. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#193)

Everything that you said on the topic of eLections and Ron Paul's candidacy turned out to be wrong, stupid, irrelevant, naive, loony or a combination of the above so, maybe you should be listening to someone who is almost always right, relevant, informative and insightful because you just might learn a thing or 2.

Well, ain't you just sumthin special!

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!

rowdee  posted on  2008-02-10   23:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#243. To: christine (#241)

All good Republicans are rallying around McInsane.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   23:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#244. To: _______ (#237)

Just a hunch.

Elder Lindbergh and Louis McFadden spoke out against the Federal Reserve.

Lindbergh survived assassination attempts, McFadden was gotten on the third attempt.

You have more than a hunch.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   23:05:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#245. To: Cynicom, christene (#244)

But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican.

I'm no longer a Republican.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   23:07:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#246. To: Pinguinite (#217)

Right.....

God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!

rowdee  posted on  2008-02-10   23:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#247. To: christine (#241)

fwiw, i don't think that Ron Paul will endorse McCain.

Most likely you are correct, no formal endorsement but on the flip side, no public comment on McCain whatsoever.

Again a tacit endorsement, once a pub always a pub, I am loyal pub, all BS.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   23:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: _______ (#245)

But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican.

I would not be proud of such a statement. Paul should be ashamed. Americans of all stripes rallied to him and his message and do not deserve to be dismissed because Paul gets political religion all of a sudden.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   23:11:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#249. To: Cynicom (#248)

But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican.

I would not be proud of such a statement. Paul should be ashamed. Americans of all stripes rallied to him and his message and do not deserve to be dismissed because Paul gets political religion all of a sudden.

I took a pledge to the Queen and to the Queen I am pledged.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   23:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: Cynicom (#247)

RP doesn't have to endorse anyone; he's already locked arms with the biggest load of perverts on the planet. Let him enjoy his exclusive club membership. He's irrelevant.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-10   23:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#251. To: Pinguinite (#30)

Suddenly, Ron Paul is garbage.

He's far from garbage. But you have to admit is campaign did not make very good use of donations. Almost like they didn't really want his message to get out.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-02-10   23:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: Jethro Tull (#250)

RP doesn't have to endorse anyone;

Jethro...

He already did. Mccain calls for party unity and two days later Paul get political religion swearing his undying faith in the republican party. Makes me sick.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   23:19:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: christine (#184)

i agree with _______ who questioned, "How is having a seat in a corrupt Congress as the "Titanic" sinks more important than running a massive message/real effort to win 3rd Party campaign through to November?"

It isn't as important as being president.

Boy how easy it is to point a finger of blame. We fickle Americans have been trained to do just that.

Ron Paul started out on a shoe string campaign war chest. It was us supporters who funded his campaign war chest with those two big fundraisers. Shortly after his campaign received those dollars, many on here and other forums started to play politics themselves. Also it was about the same time the concerted MSM started the marginalism of Ron Paul and about the time the seeds of doubt were being planted and beginning to sprout.

In essence, many so called Ron Paul supporters weren't comitted to stand by him through the thick and thin. That is very apparent reading many comments on Freedom4um the last week or so. There is no shame in giving a worthy cause your support. The shame comes when that support is very shallow.

Two women from our Ron Paul meetup group drove over 40 miles one way in blizzard conditions today 2-10-08 to deliver Ron Paul ballot access petitions and Ron Paul delegate petitions that will be driven to Harrisburg PA tomorrow. We are not giving up. You may call us stupid, naive, ignorant, or whatever you want. That my friends is called dedicated and 'real' support. We will also meet tomorrow night at 7:00pm for our regular meeting.The PA primary is still a long way off.

I wouldn't consider voting for any of the candidates running in either party. Like the MSM, I've marginalized the scumbags.We can only expect more of the same and I do believe we just had our last best hope. The trouble is not many Americans today would shed blood for this country and I don't mean just serving in the military.

We've had it too good for too long and have mortgaged our children's, great grandchildren's and great grandchildren's future, finances, liberty,justice,freedom by our own greedy actions. They are left to what appears to be a life of servitude and misery. Let us all take a moment to reach around and give ourselves a great big pat on the back. We wrote the book on meism and the last chapter doesn't even have any words telling them we are sorry.

I do agree that if Dr. Paul wants to run for congress again, he should raise his campaign dollars in texas.

LACUMO  posted on  2008-02-10   23:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: Cynicom (#252)

Chuck Hagel vs Ron Paul

March 12, 2007

Chuck Hagel decided not to announce his candidacy for President today while Ron Paul announced. However if you were unfortunate enough to pay any attention to the mainstream media circus you would be under the impression that Hagel was the only candidate to make any news. I think one Ron Paul supporter knows why:

According to Hardball, Hagel is the only Anti-War, Pro-Civil liberties candidate running for the Republican Primary. But, just how Anti-war and Anti-police state is he? Look at his Voting record, compared to the voting record of Ron Paul. He voted for the Military Commissions Act! Ron Paul is the only true Anti-War, Pro-Civil Liberties candidate.

July 5th, 2007

Ron Paul/Chuck Hagel '08 ???

James Pinkerton has written a prospective "retrospective" of the 2008 election in Newsday. It's an interesting piece--especially interesting, I think, in that while it mentions few Republicans by name (other than waving goodbye to John McCain's candidacy), it provides something of an explanation about how Ron Paul could actually win the nomination and ultimately the presidency. An interesting read.

Key quote:

The Republicans, nominating a ticket free of any close association with the outgoing administration, won a comfortable victory.

If only....

How about a Ron Paul/Chuck Hagel ticket? That would fit Pinkerton's bill, wouldn't it?

LLE

Some things I'm thinking of and want to remember.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   23:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: LACUMO (#253)

There is no shame in giving a worthy cause your support. The shame comes when that support is very shallow.

Baloney.

Our support was deeper than his commitment.

Period.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   23:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: Pinguinite (#44)

We've believed Ron has been a man of conscience all these years, never making backroom deals with other congressmen or voting for pork benefiting his own district, and now we're to consider the possibility that someone successfully applied covert pressure on Ron Paul to stop actively campaigning?

Ron Paul is a human like everyone else. He is not immune from the pressure of threats against his family. I would not even blame him for stopping for those reasons. I'm sure he is willing to die for the cause, but he is not willing to see his loved ones die for the cause. Ron Paul is no dummy. He knows what Alex Jones believes about 9/11, yet he still chose to go on his radio program numerous times. Of course Ron knows the truth about 9/11, he also knows that is one boundary the elite won't let him cross without deadly consequences.

Exposing the truth about 9/11 is more important than any presidential run ever. It is the only way America has a chance to change, the only way. The criminals and the people covering up for them must be brought to justice or America will never be free again.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-02-10   23:28:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: RickyJ (#256)

911 was used to move on the North American Zone and the Middle East Zone while getting into bed with the South East Asian Zone, the Euro Zone more deeply and of course send big frns to the African Zone.

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   23:32:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: _______ (#254)

Paul thru mis advice or poor judgment has faltered in the first turn and to a long shot in a race that is fatal. His own presentations were an indicator, allowing lesser men to mock him in front of millions was wrong and someone should have told him so.

I no longer know what to think.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-10   23:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: robin (#2)

Thanks to JEFF RENSE, if for nothing else, pointing out the ANOMALY of Ron Paul quoting Trotsky, whose demented brain fomented the Russian Revolution of 1917. Ron Paul would normally NEVER quote Trotsky to encourage his followers. The Revolution of Dr. Paul is not a “revolution” which sends millions to the Gulag or deliberately starves farmers in the Ukraine. GET THE PICTURE? Ron Paul is letting us know, in the only way he can, that he has been forced out. He has been threatened, and he has been elbowed out of the race by THUGS. Think-Think-Think-Think! It is so important now that we face this Government Mafia and tell America.

I think that is a distinct possibility. Two weeks ago RP's campaign manager was acknowledging 3rd Party as a distinct possibility

Now it is ruled out completely.

Those are all interesting datums.

I floated the possibility a week ago that there were behind the scenes threats being made - not against Ron Paul as he is personally courageous - but against friends and family - the achilles heel of any good man. It is one thing to risk your own life and another to have known killers state "do 'X' or your daughter gets snuffed".

I also think Jeff was right that RP's comment on 911 eroding support. Since he is reputed to have confided behind the scenes that 911 was an inside job one can only conclude his statement was political or forced. The set-up for the question on it is very interesting - as is Ron Paul's comment after the disavowal. I now believe that may very well have been a statement forced by threats behind the scenes.

I think that the PTB decided it was too risky to whack Ron Paul to take him out of the race and so other means were used. He was forced to shoot himself in the foot and then bow out.

Same thing as happened with the Editor of "Capital Hill Blue" to shut him up. An ex-Marine can't be accused of being a coward so he had to be forced to shoot himself in the foot - on the same issue i.e., 911 Truth.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-02-10   23:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: Original_Intent (#259)

I floated the possibility a week ago that there were behind the scenes threats being made - not against Ron Paul as he is personally courageous - but against friends and family - the achilles heel of any good man. It is one thing to risk your own life and another to have known killers state "do 'X' or your daughter gets snuffed".

Isn't this what happened to Ross Perot and he was written off as a nut.


My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles,
and the letters get in the wrong places.
-- Winnie the Pooh

farmfriend  posted on  2008-02-10   23:58:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: Original_Intent (#259)

Anybody remember this?

What happened to the recent "That's what I want them to think!TM"?

_______  posted on  2008-02-10   23:59:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: Original_Intent (#259)

I also think Jeff was right that RP's comment on 911 eroding support. Since he is reputed to have confided behind the scenes that 911 was an inside job one can only conclude his statement was political or forced. The set-up for the question on it is very interesting - as is Ron Paul's comment after the disavowal. I now believe that may very well have been a statement forced by threats behind the scenes.

His answer seemed forced and out of character.

Just like his outright killing the National Campaign with "I AM A REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN" - Surrender to November.

_______  posted on  2008-02-11   0:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: Cynicom (#258)

His own presentations were an indicator, allowing lesser men to mock him in front of millions was wrong and someone should have told him so.

yeah, i agree. and it's not like he didn't have it in him. i saw it and heard it a number of times. maybe he was Perot'd. this was sudden. who knows. i don't know what to think anymore either.

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-11   0:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: farmfriend (#260)

Isn't this what happened to Ross Perot and he was written off as a nut.

Which would explain not mentioning it, which I believe Perot did.

_______  posted on  2008-02-11   0:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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