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Title: Ron Paul's Goodbye (Jeff Rense)
Source: Rense
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general80/goodbye.htm
Published: Feb 9, 2008
Author: Jeff Rense
Post Date: 2008-02-10 17:10:32 by robin
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Ron Paul's Goodbye

By Jeff Rense
2-9-8

The real issue now is that Ron Paul is effectively out of the race ....whether he directly came out and said it or not. In his statement of thanks to his supporters (see below), he also announced he's cutting his staff way back. The message is clear. The last Ron Paul 'money bomb' showed a substantial loss of support momentum...which was/is largely the result of his complete public disassociation and denouncement of the entire 911 Truth Movement during that national 'debate' several weeks ago. That was either a bald-faced, enormous, lie to try to keep himself politically 'alive' ... OR that is HIS truth. Either way, it cost him a lot of support. We know several Ron Paul backers who dropped him at that moment... and it was reflected in the failed, subsequent fundraising. His poor showing (absolutely expected) in the primaries was the final truth his devoted supporters had to swallow: the system is totally owned and operated by the controllers. Period. Many Paulites will now walk away from this obviously, hopelessly corrupt and manipulated political charade in America...and will never look back. Some will stay. Ron announced."I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican"and will not leave the party to run as an independent. (A Paul-Kucinich ticket would have at least been FUN). WHAT Republican party?? That was a lamentable statement to read. Ron must be thinking it is still the Republican Party of the 19th century. The Republican 'party' NOW stands for the BIG LIE, it stands for CRIME and DEATH, for GENOCIDE and PERVERSION, for TAXATION and GRAFT, for the FED and FINANCIAL RAPE, for DOMESTIC SPYING and the PATRIOT ACT, ...it stands for the end of LIBERTY and of our CONSTITUTION. Above all, it now stands for Zionism and WAR. That statement alone probably ended about half of his remaining support. As we said many months ago, if he does NOT run as an independent, he will effectively put 'finis' to great portion of the majority of patriotic passion and commitment of the small, brave patriotic awakening he awakened in this rat hole political paradigm. And if the controllers are as smart as we think, they may well have orchestrated much of the 'Paul phenomena' to ultimately send the message, yet again, that 'resistance is futile!' Ron said he needs to go home to Texas and work for his re-election to the House. That's a wise decision because the enemies of freedom and the Constitution, knowing all along he never had a chance in hell of gaining the nomination, will now try to unseat him...and they can do so if it be their will. Ask Cynthia McKinney. So, even though he says he's 'still in the race' it is totally meaningless. Publicly, via his disassociation from 911 Truth, he is 'officially' standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Bush/Cheney and Zionism on 911. He had a GREAT opportunity to bring 911 Truth forward during the campaign...and chose to hide it. And, God forbid, if he really spoke HIS truth in the debate about the whole 911 issue, he is clearly, totally, disconnected from the biggest reality of our time: that 911 was an inside job. Sad to see him give it up...but it was totally predictable and comes as no surprise. For his die-hard supporters and those who cherish America's nearly vanquished past magnificence, keep at it. Work at the local level...run for office... just know that the clock is ticking and the enemies of Freedom stand all around us and often in between us. Of all the great American political leaders who sacrificed their lives for freedom, Ron chose, instead, to quote the zionist maniac killer Communist Trotsky about the 'revolution being permanent.' A strange choice. The statement could have been made without the need to acknowledge a Bolshevik madman. In any case, the 'Ron Paul Revolution' is over... now just a footnote, an asterisk, in the grim record of these darkening times. Certainly, some will endeavor to carry on his themes...something the CIA/NSA supercomputer models knew and predicted long ago. Ron Paul is a grand anachronism...a principled man out of time, as it were. He truly made a difference. And for that we owe him much.

Ron Paul - 'There Will Be
No Third Party Run'
Turns Attention To Keeping His Congressional Seat

Message from Ron Paul
2-9-8

Whoa! What a year this has been. And what achievements we have had. If I may quote Trotsky of all people, this Revolution is permanent. It will not end at the Republican convention. It will not end in November. It will not end until we have won the great battle on which we have embarked. Not because of me, but because of you. Millions of Americans -- and friends in many other countries -- have dedicated themselves to the principles of liberty: to free enterprise, limited government, sound money, no income tax, and peace. We will not falter so long as there is one restriction on our persons, our property, our civil liberties. How much I owe you. I can never possibly repay your generous donations, hard work, whole-hearted dedication and love of freedom. How blessed I am to be associated with you. Carol, of course, sends her love as well. Let me tell you my thoughts. With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican. I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen. In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always. And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me. Sincerely, Ron

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Don't trip on your ego, it's the only thing that makes you half way attractive.

You should find the strength and the intelligence inside yourself to acknowledge your mistakes and misjudgments. The ability to learn from past mistakes is not even reserved to human nature, it's part of most sentient beings' nature.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-11   19:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yes, the article stated that RP's Israel attitude was so low, he didn't get a score. It was probably close to zero or maybe negative.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-11   19:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Giuliani had the highest score, in the 700's, followed closely by McCain and Hillary. Obama had something like 300.

So, a perfect score for Israel would have been 200 or so.

HHHHMM, I wonder if any other countries have polls on which American president would be best for thier particular country? Or, does only Israel do this?

They are very of afraid of Ron Paul. Good.

wbales  posted on  2008-02-11   19:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Therein, you ASSUME AND AVER that I, wbales, are among those "some" which here seem to believe that Ron Paul took a dive

No, that's not what I said. I said some here said he took a dive. And why would you want a that sort of candidate to lead your new effort. And further, why should his supporters rally around a new Party label, since the party is unnamed and unknown. You have a known entity, Ron Paul, but that is just not good enough. You have to know that people took ron paul out from the inside, are smearing him now, to force their will and desire of a new undefined party down our throats, or they'd rather see the message die, and RP go down in flames. It's their way or the highway. But worse.

The outrage should be directed at those who are dancing in glee over this smear of Ron Paul and those parading as 3rd party promoters, in that they have guaranteed more of the status quo.

That's my take Wbales. That you want to have new parties, when I myself rather see a No Party system, are equal gaps in attainable reality, in the near future anyway. I was voting the the message and the man. If a new party can deliver such a person, that can especially drive home the 9/11 truthers issues... good luck. I simply read through the bitching carping and complaining about everything RP was not, and can't imagine this group finding a candidate again, that can even or would even, meet them half way.

It's not my problem anymore anyway. It's up to the dancers to find their guy.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-11   19:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

RP's Israel attitude was so low, he didn't get a score

And which co-incides, serendipitously, with Ron Paul's covereage in the "American" federal media.

Well, well......

They are very of afraid of Ron Paul. Good.

wbales  posted on  2008-02-11   19:52:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's likely that Mexico might have something like this. I would be surprised if the Chinese politburo didn't score the candidates.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-11   19:53:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You should find the strength and the intelligence inside yourself to acknowledge your mistakes and misjudgments. The ability to learn from past mistakes is not even reserved to human nature, it's part of most sentient beings' nature.

Are you typing with both hands, or congratulating yourself again?

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-11   19:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

See? Can't admit to your own mistakes. This is very bad. I recall that Bush was unable to name even one mistake of his. Hillary is always placing blame on others for her mistakes.

This is bad, bad, bad. Almost hopeless.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-11   19:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

That you want to have new parties, when I myself rather see a No Party system

A joint effort of like minded shall be a party regardless. And, yes, we needed a new one. I'm already a member of it. The "No Party" party moniker would be fine with me.

They are very of afraid of Ron Paul. Good.

wbales  posted on  2008-02-11   19:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's likely that Mexico might have something like this. I would be surprised if the Chinese politburo didn't score the candidates.

I bet you are right. But none hold the sway and influence of that shitty little pile of sand in the middle east.

It is distressing that foreign interests direct our internal politics so.

They are very of afraid of Ron Paul. Good.

wbales  posted on  2008-02-11   20:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

See? Can't admit to your own mistakes. This is very bad. I recall that Bush was unable to name even one mistake of his. Hillary is always placing blame on others for her mistakes.

This is bad, bad, bad. Almost hopeless.

Show me my mistake Maha bedwetter.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-11   20:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A joint effort of like minded shall be a party regardless. And, yes, we needed a new one. I'm already a member of it. The "No Party" party moniker would be fine with me.

Please let me know of your progress. Love to hear it.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-11   20:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your biggest mistake is refusing to learn from your own mistakes.

Or... is it an inability? Or, rather... disability? In which case it wouldn't be a mistake. Only a limitation. A rather severe one. A VERY severe limitation but not everyone is born perfect, even though some do manage to improve themselves while others... don't or can't.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-11   20:10:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your biggest mistake is refusing to learn from your own mistakes.

Or... is it an inability? Or, rather... disability? In which case it wouldn't be a mistake. Only a limitation. A rather severe one. A VERY severe limitation but not everyone is born perfect, even though some do manage to improve themselves while others... don't or can't.

You sure know me well.

I suppose you best not bother with me then. I have no intention of becoming anything like you. You're actually repulsive. But keep the ego flowing, I LOVE the entertainment.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-11   20:14:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

There was some score that Ha'aretz is assigning to the candidates to the US presidency, from the p.o.v. of how good they were for Israel. Obama had the lowest score of them all.

He also does not score high with the un-guested worker crowd. He's also the only candidate in either party that opposed the Iraq idiocy.

That's why so many Republicans and Independents are voting for him.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-11   20:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This is one out of the one or 2 posts from you I found to be even remotely coherent. And, yet, so completely wrong and disconnected from reality, it boggles the normal mind. All posts that followed this one were just stupid BS of the stupidest kind. Not that this one was in any way brilliant.

#187. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#182)

is 70% behind George W. Bush and George W. Bush's agenda of war, torture, outsourcing out economy, trading individual liberty for 'security', national bankruptcy via over-spending and borrowing and cancer-like growing state. If I am the only one who finds this a bit bizarre, then I beg for everybody else's pardon.

Vast, the last election proved that not to be the case.

Dems were 'swept' into power for a change. His poll numbers and those that support him reflect the ignorant and his real benefactors. All bottom feeders.

Dem poll numbers have tanked.

Congress' numbers blow.

These are for the people paying attention.

There are a large number of voters now that are not captured in true polling, as you are no doubt aware.

I think the light is brighter than you might think. I think the people are smarter than ever given credit for. And that is evident, by the smell of fear in the media.

Peppa posted on 2007-11-11 13:11:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-11   21:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am in the process of educating myself on the topic. Just saw his wife on L King. She's impressive.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-11   21:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

where's V

It's time.

It's too bad, but it is time. There is no other way.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-02-12   1:05:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

At least Ron Paul's exit this early gives everyone some extra time to consider what happens next.

Yes. It allows us to begin survival preparations.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-02-12   1:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

In fact, I'm probably done voting.....forever

IMO, America will not survive long enough for us to vote again after this "election."

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-02-12   1:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Since you are going to give yukon a piece of your mind and another one for Pinguinite maybe you could give him another one for me. Who knows, with three pieces that might get the boy up to about the level of an amoeba.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-02-12   7:33:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

where's V?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-02-12   7:57:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am in the process of educating myself on the topic. Just saw his wife on L King. She's impressive.

Quite a refreshing contrast to Hill and Bill, eh? ;-)

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-12   8:11:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And that is evident, by the smell of fear in the media.

They have the herd somewhat contained but there is danger of a stampede.

angle  posted on  2008-02-12   8:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh... I see that should have been directed to you. Quel surprise! I though VWR had a post I supported, but no, upon more careful inspection...it was yours.

Some operatives on this board, do you think?

angle  posted on  2008-02-12   8:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Some operatives on this board, do you think?

Oh yes. Many more than I thought.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-12   9:01:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Perls of Peppic wisdom:

- I'd loan you a sandwich but that won't help your picnic.
- Don't you think RP knows all of which you allude? Don't you think we do? And yet you wish to perpetuate the fear to accept the status quo. Coward!~
- Give me your address, I'll send you a box of Depends.
- Small is the mind that has been shackled by poison. But I'll not help you further. Don't stretch your leash, you are allowed to bark only so much.
- Have you written to RP to tell him he needs to change parties for you yet?

These are all very cogent and unbelievably persuasive arguments. I can't say that I'm not impressed, because I am. I am impressed and I am entertained but that is nor right because I should be sad.

Could it be that RP's campaign inside the GOP collapsed the way it did because clowns and sycophants such as Dr. Pep found his effort more entertainment than a serious attempt to steer the machine of state in the right direction and, instead, steered the RP PR toward talking about 'money bombs' and hot air balloons instead of discussing RP's not so new or original ideas (there's nothing wrong about that) and instead of advising him to go after the people's vote instead of staying inside the GOP organization of mass-murdering and Zionistic boy lovers?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-12   10:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Could it be that RP's campaign ...collapsed the way it did because clowns...found his effort more entertainment than a serious attempt to steer the machine of state in the right direction ...instead of discussing RP's not so new or original ideas... (there's nothing wrong about that) and instead of advising him to go after the people's vote instead of staying inside the GOP organization of mass-murdering and Zionistic boy lovers?

Maybe. Now what?

angle  posted on  2008-02-12   17:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Now? Nothing. This battle was lost so all you can do is count the casualties and learn some lessons.

Deeds carry consequences.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-12   19:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Now? Nothing.

I'll stick with Ron Paul, then.

angle  posted on  2008-02-12   20:35:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I agree. The way I see it, we always knew it was a long shot to support Ron Paul. The first fact that we need to face is that we didn't sweep him to victory in the polls. The second fact we need to face is the convoluted nature of this campaign. It would not do to give up, nor would it do to underestimate the complexity of the strategies required for Ron Paul to successfully complete a reelection as a congressman while continuing to campaign for the office of president. Is there any historical precedent?

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-12   20:38:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Is there any historical precedent?

Not of this scope.

angle  posted on  2008-02-13   13:23:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ron Paul may well be a distant memory to many former supporters come this november, but he won't to me. I will write in a vote for him as will my wife. Maybe that will help lighten any burden placed upon us when the punishment comes our way. At least we will know like Dr. Paul, we never compromised.

That whole post was worth reading.

We demand our United States Constitution be restored.

angle  posted on  2008-02-14   9:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

since you're one of the few who recall the relevance of this: a reminder for others. This 4 year old thread about the "TROTSKY MEMO" is quite the amusing read., particularly in retrospect. I am waiting for his 2012 verion to be released soon.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-03-26   12:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

haha. As i pinged this thread a month & half ago & said i'm waiting for the 2012 version. There is nothing new under the sun. Ron can now enjoy those pancakes at his masonic lodge and retire. :-)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-05-14   20:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

May 15 2012

FYI:

wudidiz  posted on  2012-05-15   6:03:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Ron can now enjoy those pancakes at his masonic lodge

Masons have been running this country from the start. ;)

I knew two 33rd Degree Masons in Lebanon, MO. One was a judge and the other was a bondsman.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-05-16   17:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-16   21:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

911 Truth Movement

The truth about 9-11 is that those planes were flown into the twin towers by a Global Hawk. It is made by Boeing. No one knows for sure who was at the controls of that Global Hawk, but rest assured it was not anyone loyal to the United States.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-05-19   11:57:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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