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Title: THIRD PARTY BALLOT ISSUES AND OTHER QUESTIONS....
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Published: Feb 11, 2008
Author: SELF
Post Date: 2008-02-11 20:54:16 by rowdee
Keywords: ELECTIONS, 3RD PARTIES, BALLOT ISSUES
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Comments: 15
With a bit of time on my hands, I trekked thru some of the web's holdings and came across the following site: http://web.archive.org/web/20010409175640/http://ballot-access.org/1995/0824.html#08 Granted, it is somewhat dated, i.e., the 1996 election, but a scroll down thru the data contained on this site will give those of you who somehow think a third party candidacy is a cake walk, or that somehow rules can be easily bent or better, broken a view of what the real world is like. Earlier this afternoon, there was an article posted about the Constitution Party in which the CP laid out many of the problems of ballot access........namely costs and time. As I looked for info on Perot's campaign, a look in at a wiki article, shows that the Libertarian Party was on the ballot in all 50 states plus DC.......and they got a whopping 291,627 votes cast that year, or .28%. That's even less than the total population of many of America's cities. The next highest 3rd party grabber was Bo Gritz, of the Populist Party with 106,152 votes, or .10%. At the tailend of what was report was the Natural Law Party, newly formed, which was on the ballot in only 32 states and received a whopping 39,999 votes, or .04%........just a tad behind the U.S. Taxpayer's Party! According to wiki, Perot was ahead for about 2 months in polls prior to his getting out of the race---he had 39% of the poll to Bush at 31% and Clinton at 25%. After being out for a few weeks and jumping back in, on election day he took 18.9%--that is, 19,743,821 votes out of the 104,423,923 cast. Spookdaddy had twice as many votes--39,104,550, or 37.4% of the total cast, with BJ taking 44,909,806, or 43%. Perot sunk millions of his own dollars into his campaign. I believe I read where he was paying to rush thru the ballot access petitions. You have to ask yourself how RP could have done that early on in the campaign race--early on being the key to assuring the time to seek signatures, etc. Anyways, there is probably a lot more meat on this site that might open our minds to even more thoughts and ideas.
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#1. To: rowdee (#0)
Excellent info Rowdee. I've read here many times that Perot's candidacy definately made a statement, and garnering 20Mvotes was significant evidence that the people had had a belly full of the status quo, and wanted change. Perot left them high and dry, and left such people with no place to go. I wasn't familiar with Perot's 'message', all I remember is charts and others laughing at him. Isn't that basically the treatment we can expect again, from 3rd party candidates, and what and who could make it different this time. And would someone that took a chance on Perot, be willing to risk such dissapointment again.
Yeah third party is hard. It takes work. Moving forward, it's where we need to be. The last twenty years has shown that we can not change the Republicans. We need to start over. We need to stop trying to change the Republicrats and start building a new party. I think the CP is the way to go. That's where I'll be putting my energies.
It's the CP for me. It was inevitable.
We learned that there are four things working against free elections:
I did. Ron decided he's a Republican in Congress and that's most important at this particular juncture. I appreciate all he's done and will continue to believe he's the best candidate I ever had the privilege of supporting. I hope he can lead an effective resistance as we battle the cabal's NAU.
We need to lead ourselves. Even Ron Paul would agree.
The political season is over, maybe for ever. The dollar is intentionally being guided into collapse. The new Union is coming. It's coming in the Middle East. Africa. Asia. Central and South America. North America is scheduled for 2010. Look for either/both economic or military crisis to galvonize the sheeple around government solutions. BIG government solutions. It's off the charts governmental orgy season against the people. Prepare your affairs, think survival and discreetly advise your peeps to prepare.
See 7 I'm way ahead of you brother.
No more than when Patrick Henry walked away from the Constitutional Convention. Where ever there are two people together, there are politics.
LOL
I appreciate all he's done and will continue to believe he's the best candidate I ever had the privilege of supporting. I hope he can lead an effective resistance as we battle the cabal's NAU.
I can't believe the campaign ends in St. Paul, MN this summer.
your #5 and #7. right on.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
Link to the article bout the Constitution Party and the problem with third party ballot access, etc: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=73186&Disp=21#C21
God wants spiritual fruits, not religious nuts!
Depends on the quality of his Army. Of course its going to be someone elses job to do the actual dirty work.
#2. To: rowdee, _______, twentytwelve, Original_Intent, Christine, YertleTurtle, *libertarians* (#0)
My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles,
and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh
#3. To: farmfriend (#2)
#4. To: rowdee, Peppa (#0)
Anyways, there is probably a lot more meat on this site that might open our minds to even more thoughts and ideas.
Until we face these facts and do so constructively, we're going to continue being disappointed.
#5. To: Peppa (#1)
And would someone that took a chance on Perot, be willing to risk such dissapointment again.
#6. To: _______ (#5)
#7. To: buckeye (#4)
#8. To: buckeye (#6)
#9. To: _______ (#7)
The political season is over, maybe for ever.
#10. To: buckeye (#9)
#11. To: _______ (#5)
Ron decided he's a Republican in Congress and that's most important at this particular juncture.
#12. To: TwentyTwelve (#11)
#13. To: _______ (#7)
#14. To: All (#0)
#15. To: _______ (#5)
I hope he can lead an effective resistance as we battle the cabal's NAU.
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