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Title: Obama wins Virginia NBC News projects; GOP race 'to close to call'...
Source: MSNBC
URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
Published: Feb 12, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-02-12 19:14:17 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 313
Comments: 28

WASHINGTON - Sen. Barack Obama was projected to add to his string of recent victories with a substantial triumph over Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in Virginia’s Democratic presidential primary, NBC News reported Tuesday.

In the Republican primary, NBC said the race between Sen. John McCain and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee was too close to call.

Voters in Maryland and the District of Columbia also were going to the polls Tuesday.

With 168 delegates at stake on Tuesday, Obama hoped to build on the lead that he has gained on Clinton in the past week in NBC News' delegate count.

In polling place interviews, more than eight in 10 voters in Virginia and Maryland said the country is ready to elect either a black or a woman to the White House.

Blacks made up more than a third of the Democratic electorate in Maryland, slightly less in Virginia. Obama, hoping to become the first black president, has consistently polled over 80 percent among African-American voters in primaries this year.

The surveys were conducted by Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International for NBC News, the other television networks and The Associated Press. No survey was conducted in the District of Columbia.

The Illinois senator won a string of contests in all regions of the country over the weekend, routing Clinton in a Louisiana primary as well as caucuses in Nebraska, Washington state and Maine.

Many new voters in Virginia In Virginia, the parties were holding binding primaries on the same day for the first time.

Turnout was described as heavy across the state, with waits as long as 90 minutes in the Richmond area, NBC affiliate WWBT reported. State election officials said they expected even longer lines in the evening as people showed up to vote after work.

More than a third of voters in the Virginia Democratic primary said they had not voted in a primary before, as did almost one in five voters in the Maryland Democratic primary, according to the exit interviews.

In the Roanoke area of southwest Virginia, there was some confusion after a weekend wind storm knocked out electricity to about 50 polling places.

Susan Pollard, a spokeswoman for the state Board of Elections, said the board worked with utility companies to get power restored to as many polling places as possible, but eight had to be moved at the last minute.

In Baltimore, where Obama was expected to do especially well, NBC affiliate WBAL quoted city and county officials as describing the turnout as “slow and steady.” Statewide, Maryland elections administrator Linda Lamone projected an overall turnout of 39 percent, with 44 percent turnout for the Democratic primary and 29 percent for the Republicans.

Icy winter weather in the region threw a wild card into the mix.

Hagerstown, in northern Maryland near the border with Pennsylvania, was under a winter weather advisory. A messy mix of freezing rain, sleet and snow was making travel difficult and closing numerous schools, NBC affiliate WHAG reported.

Washington also reported freezing rain, but turnout did not appear to be affected. NBC affiliate WRC said officials were reporting heavy turnout.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

uh oh..guess we're gonna be seeing more hillary tears.

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-12   19:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#1)

Looks like Obama is getting 60% in VA. With that kind of beating, Hillary will be crying all over the place . . . in front of the cameras of course. It will be duck and cover for her campaign staff though.

Arete  posted on  2008-02-12   19:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#1)

uh oh..guess we're gonna be seeing more hillary tears.

Don't think so. That kinda trick works once, maybe. After that... you start to look like a whiny crybaby loser, and that would backfire bigtime. Let's face it, the average Democrat wants ANYONE but Hillary. Is it so darn hard to figure out? MoveOn members polled over 70% in favor of Obama, as did Washington State Democrats.

Most Democrats have figured out that Hillary is a SHILL for CORPORATE INTERESTS, and that the Clintons are REPUBLICANS in Democrat clothing. She just hasn't gotten the message yet: most Democrats do NOT want yet another Clinton administration. We're still ticked off over the last one. Between NAFTA and GATT, we're all PISSED. Is that so hard to figure out? It's past time she got the message and bowed out of the race, and went back to being the carpetbagging Senator she's been for the last several years.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-02-12   19:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#0)

When the dust of politics settles, Hillary will be standing and Obama will be looking for VP.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-12   19:32:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#0)

So far Huckabee is thumping McCains ass...
Real-time Race Results: Updated February 12, 2008 - 7:40 PM (all times Eastern Standard)
Precincts Reporting 8%
CandidateVotesVote %DelegatesProjected Winner
Huckabee18,00249%0
McCain16,00044%0
Paul1,2673%0
Romney9883%0

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2008-02-12   19:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#4)

I wouldn't bet a lot of $$ on that.

The percentages that Obama is beating Hillary with are quite impressive, indeed.

His momentum is beyond huge right now and certainly can't be discounted.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2008-02-12   19:47:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brian S (#6)

Brian...

The Clintons have the entire system behind them. Were Obama to be the candidate, McCain would win. The system would still win.

Difficult to read but there is a hint of something amiss. Obama being flush with money does NOT compute. Clinton financing her own campaign does not compute.

Where is this largesse for Obama coming from? It is not from blacks, and it is not from southern democrats.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-12   19:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

Where is this largesse for Obama coming from?

Arete  posted on  2008-02-12   20:02:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Arete (#8)

Arete...

Most likely is one source. Obama does not even call for loot and millions appear from eager Americans. Odd indeed.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-12   20:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Elliott Jackalope (#3)

We're still ticked off over the last one.

I am. Hillary was promised the WH for being a good little girl and standing by her scumbag husband when Monica broke. She thinks that she's entitled to the office just like that NY senate seat was handed to her. I'd like to see the voters kick her to the curb for being the establishment political whore that she is.

Arete  posted on  2008-02-12   20:08:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Arete (#8) (Edited)

Also Soros.

George Soros Backs Obama (But Hedges His Bets)

Although, maybe that has cooled.

Barack Obama's men

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-02-12   20:10:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Arete (#10) (Edited)

*sigh* - When I think "Clinton", I think of those erstwhile "friends" who say "I'm behind you all the way", and then when you turn your back on them, you feel the knife jamming through you from behind, and look down to see the poisoned tip of their blade twisting through your chest. As you sink to your knees, choking on the blood you're coughing up, you hear them whispering in your ear "It's YOUR fault you know, you were stupid enough to trust me!"

Let me be very very clear about this: FUCK THE CLINTONS! Those MOTHERFUCKING REPUBLICAN CORPORATE SHILLS! FUCK THEM FUCK THEM FUCK THEM!

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-02-12   20:13:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Elliott Jackalope, Arete (#3)

ok, bill's gonna be crying then. ;)

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-12   20:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine (#13)

I wanna see that!

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-02-12   20:18:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#13)

The last time Bill Clinton cried any genuine tears was when his short hairs got caught between Monica's teeth....

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-02-12   20:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Elliott Jackalope (#15)

eeeek..that's an image i coulda done without. :P

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-12   20:20:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Arete (#2)

The exit polls say 50% of white men in VA voted for Obama.

afp.google.com/article/AL...BTI1haaN8Fd_ekCuMXgSRcUqA

In ominous signs for the Clinton campaign, exit polls showed the 46-year-old Illinois senator surging ahead in the former first lady's normal bastion of women, and splitting another of her key powerbases, white voters.

...

More striking, exit polls showed that he took the vote among women -- the former first lady's core constituency, by 58 percent to 42 percent in the state.

Among those who put a priority on the economy, Clinton's bread and butter issue, Obama still came out on top 60 to 40 percent.

Those who cared most about the Iraq war went 65 to 35 percent for Obama.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-02-12   20:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#17)

Obama also beat Hillary with the latino vote, something he hasn't done to date, by double digit percentages (11% iirc).

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2008-02-12   20:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin (#17)

Just need to keep beating the anti-Clinton drum, over and over and over until people wake up and get it. NAFTA GATT IRAQ! NAFTA GATT IRAQ! NAFTA GATT IRAQ! BOOM BOOM BOOM. Over and over and over and over. NAFTA GATT IRAQ! NAFTA GATT IRAQ! NAFTA GATT IRAQ! BOOM BOOM BOOM!

Nothing will make me happier than seeing Hillary prevented from getting the Democratic nomination. The good news is that it looks like she's lost all momentum, and is now desperately trying to hang on to what little support she has. Good. Hey, Hillary? Guess what? NAFTA GATT IRAQ! NAFTA GATT IRAQ! NAFTA GATT IRAQ! What, do you think we're ALL morons? Some of us actually have, you know, memories. NAFTA GATT IRAQ! NAFTA GATT IRAQ! NAFTA GATT IRAQ!

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-02-12   20:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#7)

Obama being flush with money does NOT compute. Clinton financing her own campaign does not compute.

From reports I've heard, he has a huge base of under $100 dollars supporters similar to the Ron Paul funding.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2008-02-12   20:31:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Elliott Jackalope (#12)

Let me be very very clear about this: FUCK THE CLINTONS! Those MOTHERFUCKING REPUBLICAN CORPORATE SHILLS! FUCK THEM FUCK THEM FUCK THEM!

The race must be getting to the sheep.

I've been getting mail from Democrats that hate the Hilobama it's my turn truck, but still it's anything but a Republican.

Exact same thing from Republicans. No McCain, Huck, Mitt, just anything but a Hilobama.

They hate their party, but wont leave. Stockholm syndrome.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-12   20:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Brian S (#18)

How odd! I wonder what the difference is. The Latino vote is rarely divided, they network very well.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson

robin  posted on  2008-02-12   20:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Elliott Jackalope (#19)

Just need to keep beating the anti-Clinton drum, over and over and over until people wake up and get it. NAFTA GATT IRAQ! NAFTA GATT IRAQ! NAFTA GATT IRAQ! BOOM BOOM BOOM. Over and over and over and over. NAFTA GATT IRAQ! NAFTA GATT IRAQ! NAFTA GATT IRAQ! BOOM BOOM BOOM!

Making NAFTA GATT the issue in the Ohio rustbelt should work out quite well for Obama.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2008-02-12   20:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Elliott Jackalope (#19)

Nothing will make me happier than seeing Hillary prevented from getting the Democratic nomination.

So an 8-year minstrel show in Dee Cee is better deal?

Yeah...I guess it is.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-12   20:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Arete (#2)

Looks like Obama is getting 60% in VA. With that kind of beating, Hillary will be crying all over the place . .

Hillary will not only be crying, but using all those classified personnel files that hubby pulled when he was in the WH...and using them to blackmail super delegates. She'll also get the votes out of Florida and Michigan that the Party said would not be counted. And when all else fails...well, when all else fails, I just hope Obama hasn't planned a motorcade in Dallas.

Sodie Pop  posted on  2008-02-12   20:49:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: christine, Jethro Tull (#1)

uh oh..guess we're gonna be seeing more hillary tears.

Remember teenie, this is the Klintons we're talking about.

Over 200 of their adversaries/enemies/detractors/investigators/indiscreet lovers, etc., have died under suspicious or mysterious circs.

The odds of this happening are roughly the same as, oh, I dunno, being sucked up into a UFO and then being crowned Emperor of the galaxy.

So, either some dark lord of the universe is watching over them or, they are political expedients with friends who aren't afraid to get their hands dirty and who drive around with shovels in their trunks.

And, not even a major party candidate is safe from the Clinton Curse. And the Clintons and the Pubs want "Bruno" to win the nomination!

When the Pubs wished that the very popular former Governor Of Missouri Mel Carnahan would go away in the hopes of securing the senate seat for John "COVER THAT STATUE'S DIRTY PILLOW!" Ashcroft, (who still lost to the deceased Carnahan) and then when the Pubs hoped that at least 99 senators would be too superstitious to oppose BushCo's invasion of Iraq, well, not one but two planes corkscrewed into the ground. (Mel Carnahan, Paul Wellstone)

Ergo, therefore and in summation, unless Obama is hoofing or bussing to rallies and fund raisers his future is a big ?

The Pubs want to run against Hillary so bad they can taste her blood. Imagine having a truckload of 30 & 60 sec. TV spots about her and Bale, then finding that they're as worthless as a Confederate War Bond!

What are they going to attack Obama with? His lack of experience? His business connections? Shady associates? His religion or race? Even if he got skulled in the back of some limo by a thweet boy, at least he isn't pinned or pledged to him like Bush is to his lifelong sleeping bag buddy from Yale!

The Klintons know that there will be no other opportunity. And, Bill wants to "git at them interns" this go round, not years from now! (as usual Jim Carville will be on hand to call 'em "lying' trailer trash" if any unseemly accusations prove irresistible to Larry Flynt)

No, we're reaching critical mass here. And we may witness a high tech, 21st century, Arkansas-style activation of the TRIPLE K NIGHT RIDERS for a special mission-to deal with this uppity media creation who doesn't have the sense to know not to interfere with President Hillary Howell-Rodham's Manifest Destiny!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-02-12   21:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: HOUNDDAWG (#26)

oh my..what a nightmare we're living in.

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-12   22:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#27)

oh my..what a nightmare we're living in.

Sorry.

But, her candidacy has reminded me how much I despise those people, and it shows in my posts.

I should probably lighten up on the gloomy stuff.

Okay, I say this then drop it.

Bill and Hillary are the High Priest/Priestess of Satan's Surface Franchise. If only we could get them to run against each other!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-02-12   22:59:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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