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Title: Virginia Republican Primary - Tue, Feb. 12, 2008
Source: aol
URL Source: http://news.aol.com/elections/primary/state/VA/republicans
Published: Feb 12, 2008
Author: aol
Post Date: 2008-02-12 19:22:27 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: Virginia Republican Primary
Views: 630
Comments: 54

Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08

Delegates: 64

County Results --- 1% Reporting

1 McCain 69 52%

2 Huckabee 58 44%

3 Ron Paul 5 4%

4 Romney 1 1%

5 Giulliani -

6 Thompson -

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#1. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

when this first began, never ever did i think mcCain would be the selection.

christine  posted on  2008-02-12   19:25:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#1)

None of us did.

robin  posted on  2008-02-12   20:02:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#7)

Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08

Delegates: 64

County Results --- 27% Reporting

1 McCain 54,925 46%

2 Huckabee 53,976 45%

3 Ron Paul 4,757 4%

4 Romney 3,689 3%

5 Thompson 978 1%

6 Giulliani 387 0%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-12   20:10:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: FOH (#9)

Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08

Delegates: 64

County Results --- 46% Reporting

1 McCain 71,849 46%

2 Huckabee 71,423 46%

3 Ron Paul 6,383 4%

4 Romney 4,720 3%

Source: CNN

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-12   20:16:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TwentyTwelve (#10)

Where's that thread you posted about how delegates work? We need it on the other thread.

angle  posted on  2008-02-12   20:28:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: angle (#11)

Where's that thread you posted about how delegates work? We need it on the other thread.

www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=6051

Supporters Please See this !!!! Ron Paul delegates!

By Pinkpoppy | February 11, 2008

know many of you are bummed about Super Tuesday BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS: Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.

First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way This matters is if 1 person receives 1192 delegates that are bound by state rules to be committed to that candidate. So if a candidate like McCain has 600 delegates now and he doesn’t reach 1192 most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 600 for McCain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.

Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the Ron Paul campaign strategy will work.

When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates.

What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates

The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.

And we have lots of delegates.

So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommitted to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommitted to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.

This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomination until the convention.

The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation’s primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis- Saint Paul The first week in September 2008

SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?

This means that all of the people that registered to become a delegate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast their vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a delegate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.

Now i assure you that even though we didn’t win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.

Doesn’t Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?

NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works.

We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.

Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.

So please STOP you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn’t you?

The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.

I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not.

NOW LET’S KEEP WORKING!

**********

One Response to “Supporters Please See this !!!! Ron Paul delegates!”

1. researchris Says: February 11th, 2008 at 10:06 pm

i hear you loud and clear.. i became a deleate here in WA state just a couple days ago.. it was SUPER easy… precincts usually are pretty small turnouts… the building we were in has 70 precincts and only 2 of them had more than 10… what does that mean? i understand it way more now that i went through it… it REALLY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE if you canvass your precinct and just get at least 5 people to come with you to you precinct caucus… most of the time, that is all it takes… unless you are in a VERY aware and competitive precinct, which most are not. i was the ONLY ron paul supporter in my little precinct of 5 people and i got one out of two spots! CAUSE MANY PEOPLE ARE TOO LAZY TO BE DELEGATES or DON’T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. many thing just signing your presidential preference is the main thing… their unknowingness is our benefit right now… TAKE ACTION AND BECOME A DELEGATE. i know that sounds redundant but i understand that even MORE after i went through the process.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-12   20:35:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TwentyTwelve (#14)

Thank you.

angle  posted on  2008-02-12   20:36:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: angle (#16)

www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=5150

How Ron Paul Will Win or Can Win. Clever Strategy (if it works). We must become delegates.

By resistance | February 6, 2008

PEOPLE PLEASE READ THIS SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN WIN THE NOMINATION AND STOP LISTENING TO THE MSM FOR YOUR INFO!

Posted February 6th, 2008 by www.dailypaul.com/user/863983;

I hope someone will put this on the front page so it doesn’t get lost.

I know many of you are bummed about yesterday BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.

First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1192 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.

So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.

This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion until the convention.

The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation’s primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008

SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN? This means that all of the people that registered to become a deligate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.

Now i assure you that even though we didn’t win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.

Doesn’t Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?

NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works.

We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.

Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.

So please STOP you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn’t you?

The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.

I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not.

NOW LET’S KEEP WORKING!

Dr. Steve Parent

This is astonishing! This is the best news I’ve heard or read in a very long ordeal.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-12   20:40:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: TwentyTwelve (#19)

NOW LET’S KEEP WORKING!

In my opinion? Nothing to lose and everything to gain by this strategy.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-12   20:41:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeye (#20)

In my opinion? Nothing to lose and everything to gain by this strategy.

Agreed.

Unless you're put on the no-fly list.

Peppa  posted on  2008-02-12   20:49:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Peppa (#22)

Wouldn't inconvenience me as I strongly dislike flying and really have no need.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-12   20:50:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeye (#23)

Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08

Delegates: 64

County Results --- 71% Reporting

1 McCain 160,007 49%

2 Huckabee 140,538 43%

3 Ron Paul 14,126 4%

4 Romney 11,086 3%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-12   21:12:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: TwentyTwelve (#34)

1 McCain 160,007 49%
2 Huckabee 140,538 43%

Neck and neck. Those Virginians sure do have a variety of ideas about things.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-12   21:14:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: buckeye, ALL (#37)

Ron Paul was at 4% the entire night.

Does anybody else find this a bit strange?

How can all counties vote exactly the same %?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-12   21:54:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: TwentyTwelve (#45)

Yes it is strange that Ron Paul's percentage was flat, regardless of the flow of urban/rural precinct reporting.

buckeye  posted on  2008-02-12   21:57:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: buckeye, Cynicom (#46)

Yes it is strange that Ron Paul's percentage was flat, regardless of the flow of urban/rural precinct reporting.

Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08

Delegates: 64

County Results --- 94% Reporting

1 McCain 223,728 50%

2 Huckabee 185,272 41%

3 Ron Paul 20,186 4%

4 Romney 15,733 3%

5 Thompson 3,351 1%

6 Giulliani 1,874 0%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-12   22:21:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: TwentyTwelve (#47)

Yes it is strange that Ron Paul's percentage was flat

Same with Romney.

angle  posted on  2008-02-12   22:35:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#51. To: angle, TwentyTwelve (#50)

v-o-t-e-r f-r-a-u-d

So who got those votes? assuming they look at final totals

robin  posted on  2008-02-12 22:37:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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