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Title: Virginia Republican Primary - Tue, Feb. 12, 2008
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Published: Feb 12, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-02-12 19:22:27 by TwentyTwelve
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Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 1% Reporting 1 McCain 69 52% 2 Huckabee 58 44% 3 Ron Paul 5 4% 4 Romney 1 1% 5 Giulliani - 6 Thompson -
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#1. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)
when this first began, never ever did i think mcCain would be the selection.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 1% Reporting 1 Huckabee 613 55% 2 McCain 424 38% 3 Romney 74 2% 4 Ron Paul 72 2% 5 Giulliani 10 6 Thompson 9
Americans have a very short memory. They already forgot about the McCaine Amnesty Bill.
Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 7% Reporting 1 Huckabee 14,205 51% 2 McCain 11,601 42% 3 Ron Paul 885 3% 4 Romney 691 3% 5 Thompson 173 1% 6 Giulliani 67 0%
Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 10% Reporting 1 Huckabee 20,347 48% 2 McCain 18,519 44% 3 Ron Paul 1,642 4% 4 Romney 1,174 3% 5 Thompson 412 1% 6 Giulliani 121 0%
Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 20% Reporting 1 Huckabee 41,991 47% 2 McCain 39,707 45% 3 Ron Paul 3,454 4% 4 Romney 2,537 3% 5 Thompson 673 1% 6 Giulliani 258 0%
None of us did.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 23% Reporting 1 McCain 48,331 47% 2 Huckabee 46,602 45% 3 Ron Paul 4,241 4% 4 Romney 3,144 3% 5 Thompson 811 1% 6 Giulliani 323 0%
Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 27% Reporting 1 McCain 54,925 46% 2 Huckabee 53,976 45% 3 Ron Paul 4,757 4% 4 Romney 3,689 3% 5 Thompson 978 1% 6 Giulliani 387 0%
Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 46% Reporting 1 McCain 71,849 46% 2 Huckabee 71,423 46% 3 Ron Paul 6,383 4% 4 Romney 4,720 3% Source: CNN
Where's that thread you posted about how delegates work? We need it on the other thread.
Sickening.
Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 46% Reporting 1 McCain 89,625 46% 2 Huckabee 86,893 45% 3 Ron Paul 8,049 4% 4 Romney 5,847 3% 5 Thompson 1,480 1% 6 Giulliani 738 0% Source: AOL
www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=6051 Supporters Please See this !!!! Ron Paul delegates! By Pinkpoppy | February 11, 2008 know many of you are bummed about Super Tuesday BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS: Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee. First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way This matters is if 1 person receives 1192 delegates that are bound by state rules to be committed to that candidate. So if a candidate like McCain has 600 delegates now and he doesn’t reach 1192 most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 600 for McCain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates. Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the Ron Paul campaign strategy will work. When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates. What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents. And we have lots of delegates. So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommitted to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommitted to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish. This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomination until the convention. The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation’s primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis- Saint Paul The first week in September 2008 SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN? This means that all of the people that registered to become a delegate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast their vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a delegate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message. Now i assure you that even though we didn’t win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates. Doesn’t Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination? NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works. We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states. Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day. So please STOP you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn’t you? The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination. I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not. NOW LET’S KEEP WORKING! ********** One Response to “Supporters Please See this !!!! Ron Paul delegates!” 1. researchris Says: February 11th, 2008 at 10:06 pm i hear you loud and clear.. i became a deleate here in WA state just a couple days ago.. it was SUPER easy… precincts usually are pretty small turnouts… the building we were in has 70 precincts and only 2 of them had more than 10… what does that mean? i understand it way more now that i went through it… it REALLY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE if you canvass your precinct and just get at least 5 people to come with you to you precinct caucus… most of the time, that is all it takes… unless you are in a VERY aware and competitive precinct, which most are not. i was the ONLY ron paul supporter in my little precinct of 5 people and i got one out of two spots! CAUSE MANY PEOPLE ARE TOO LAZY TO BE DELEGATES or DON’T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. many thing just signing your presidential preference is the main thing… their unknowingness is our benefit right now… TAKE ACTION AND BECOME A DELEGATE. i know that sounds redundant but i understand that even MORE after i went through the process.
www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=5752#comments February 10th, 2008 at 2:44 pm Update on delegate count youdecide08.foxnews.com.....unt-tally/ Candidate Delegates Mike Huckabee 234 John McCain 719 Ron Paul 14 Mitt Romney 298 Total 1,265 McCain needs 1,191 to win the nomination. 1,191 - 719 = 472 McCAIN needs 472 more delegates by June to win the GOP nomination. I believe only VT and Washington, D.C. are the only contests remaining that are “winner take all.” 472 is alot of delegates to go. Huckabee and Paul are going to prevent McCAIN from getting those delegates. He didn’t win squat last night. I’m not giving up on a brokered convention until the clock his zero. “It ain’t over ’till it’s over.” Damn right, Yogi.
Thank you.
www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=5786 Just thought I would Share this with you guys!! Trust me it is good news!!! By Savage206 | February 10, 2008 This is a compilation of two different email I have recieved from the Washington State Ron Paul campaign HQ. Her name is Molly and she has done a really good job helping to oorganize us here in Washington!! Ok here ya go: Hello everyone, By our very preliminary count from you reports it is looking like we have at least twice the delegates as the other candidates!! For this day and until the count shows otherwise I want you to congratulate yourselves for WINNING Washington State for Ron Paul!! I wish I could share every single story I have heard over the past few days and all the happy reports from Ron Paul enclaves in WA towns I have never even heard of! Please know this…the National Campaign is seeing these kind of successes all over the country…Every day that goes by we have new supporters and new contributers. I can’t believe I am saying this…I thought certainly I would sleep for 4 days once the 9th was over…but I am already so excited to prepare for our County Conventions!! The next few weeks are going to be very important…There were stories from almost every precinct about Huckabee and Romney voters changing their support to Ron Paul. Unfortunately some of the biggest threats to the Freedom Revolution can still come from within…our own perceptions…please read Ron’s letter again until you see the part that states he we are going to the National Convention! You know things have changed every day in this campaign with new information and new victories changing the course…now we have given him Washington and made the road to the Minneapolis a lot more golden!! I will update you all when we get more final results… You all did a wonderful job. Just wonderful. Thank you for all you do! Maureen McMahan Moore Washington State Coordinator Ron Paul 2008 This part was sent out yesterday!!! I got to count all of the ballots for district 43! Rode in the car with the person who had custody of the ballots to their office and another Paul supporter and I were there the whole time. Mike was actually entering the data into the spreadsheet while I watched one of their people open the envelopes. They were extremely fair and careful and even a couple of times caught a something that I nearly missed that ensured an extra Paul vote. I also caught a couple of near-misses that wound up being McCain votes, so we’re even. It was so amazing – I can’t tell you how amazing – to sign in every Paul supporter who was in line at my caucus and see everyone’s faces, and then one by one recognize everyone’s name on the sign-in sheets, and then see them win their delegate slots, and hear Paul’s name called out by these McCain supporting GOP guys in their own office. I almost choked up a couple of times! You guys did an amazing job! Also the Paul people did a much better job of filling in the forms completely – if they decide to throw out all the forms that don’t have a signature at the bottom, we’ll be in even better shape. District 43 PROVISIONAL results (not including two other small caucus locations, and these are NOT final results, subject to checking voter registrations and whether the forms were filled out correctly and such): Huckabee 17 delegates McCain 48 delegates Paul 62 delegates Romney 7 delegates Uncommited 11 delegates So don’t worry guys!!! The MSM is trying once again tohold us down by reporting false results!!! Ron Paul did take Washington!!!
freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=72909 Title: McCain Will Not Have Enough Delegates in JUNE - We are Going to a Brokered Convention Source: www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=5233 URL Source: ronpaulwarroom.com Published: Feb 7, 2008 Author: ronpaulwarroom.com Post Date: 2008-02-07 15:24:27 by TwentyTwelve Keywords: Brokered Convention, McCain Views: 1
www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=5150 How Ron Paul Will Win or Can Win. Clever Strategy (if it works). We must become delegates. By resistance | February 6, 2008 PEOPLE PLEASE READ THIS SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN WIN THE NOMINATION AND STOP LISTENING TO THE MSM FOR YOUR INFO! Posted February 6th, 2008 by www.dailypaul.com/user/863983; I hope someone will put this on the front page so it doesn’t get lost. I know many of you are bummed about yesterday BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee. First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1192 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates. So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish. This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion until the convention. The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation’s primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008 SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN? This means that all of the people that registered to become a deligate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message. Now i assure you that even though we didn’t win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates. Doesn’t Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination? NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works. We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states. Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day. So please STOP you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn’t you? The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination. I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not. NOW LET’S KEEP WORKING! Dr. Steve Parent This is astonishing! This is the best news I’ve heard or read in a very long ordeal.
In my opinion? Nothing to lose and everything to gain by this strategy.
Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 58% Reporting 1 McCain 118,934 47% 2 Huckabee 111,147 44% 3 Ron Paul 10,631 4% 4 Romney 7,944 3% 5 Thompson 2,012 1% 6 Giulliani 988 0%
Agreed. Unless you're put on the no-fly list.
Wouldn't inconvenience me as I strongly dislike flying and really have no need.
Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 62% Reporting 1 McCain 126,563 47% 2 Huckabee 117,534 44% 3 Ron Paul 11,440 4% 4 Romney 8,477 3% 5 Thompson 2,012 1% 6 Giulliani 988 0% NOTE: CNN PROJECTS MCCAIN THE WINNER & WILL GET 60 DELEGATES
This would not be good.
But what if, you decide to pretend you are an Obama delegate,and then change your mind when you get there?
www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=5296#comment-67820 Abraham Lincoln Delagates Question | Ron Paul War Room
How about claiming to be a Hillary delegate?
I hate flying too. But, there are others to consider.
Either one. Or McCain even. Same question.
I just can't figure out how Naomi Wolf got on the watch list.
Her book may have something to do with it.
#9: Dissent Equals Treason.
Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 71% Reporting 1 McCain 160,007 49% 2 Huckabee 140,538 43% 3 Ron Paul 14,126 4% 4 Romney 11,086 3%
Ahh.
Obama takes DC, another startling win.
Neck and neck. Those Virginians sure do have a variety of ideas about things.
They do not appear to like liberty and freedom. Only 4% for Ron Paul
I suspect a lot of Paul voters did not turn out for a choice of tweedle dee and dumb.
Does this mean that Hillary will cry again?
Here is what Newtie had to say... "“If we run a traditional consultant-dominated tactical Republican campaign, like we’ve seen in the last eight years, we will be defeated this fall, and we will be having a CPAC meeting next year talking about how we rebuild for the future with either President Obama or President Clinton in charge.”
"“If we run a traditional consultant-dominated tactical Republican campaign, like we’ve seen in the last eight years, we will be defeated this fall, and we will be having a CPAC meeting next year talking about how we rebuild for the future with either President Obama or President Clinton in charge.” I wouldn't want to bet against Obama or Clinton.
Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 86% Reporting 1 McCain 202,244 49% 2 Huckabee 169,874 42% 3 Ron Paul 18,127 4% 4 Romney 13,892 3% 5 Thompson 3,034 1% 6 Giulliani 1,692 0%
18k people determined not to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Ron Paul was at 4% the entire night. Does anybody else find this a bit strange? How can all counties vote exactly the same %?
Yes it is strange that Ron Paul's percentage was flat, regardless of the flow of urban/rural precinct reporting.
Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 94% Reporting 1 McCain 223,728 50% 2 Huckabee 185,272 41% 3 Ron Paul 20,186 4% 4 Romney 15,733 3% 5 Thompson 3,351 1% 6 Giulliani 1,874 0%
Virginia Democratic Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 101 County Results --- 94% Reporting 1 Obama 563,449 63% 2 Clinton 317,679 36% 3 Edwards 4,632 1% 4 Kucinich 1,650 0% 5 Richardson 1,018 0% 6 Joe Biden 738 0%
Robin asked: "So why did Ron Paul say in his message of the 8th that since Romney quit a brokered convention is not possible. " 2012...any insights?
Same with Romney.
v-o-t-e-r f-r-a-u-d So who got those votes? assuming they look at final totals
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! 2012...any insights? I haven't heard any comments regarding this but I will keep looking.
So who got those votes? assuming they look at final totals www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=6245 The numbers don’t add up in the Virginia By Veritas | February 13, 2008 MSNBC is showing the results for the Virginia primary by county and city. Now, the city of Richmond has 144 meetup members. The total votes for that city with 97% precincts reporting is 384 for Ron Paul. The City of VA Beach has about 75 meetup members in the Tidewater meetup group. The total votes for that city with 100% reporting is 1946. How can Virginia Beach who has half the number of meetup members as Richmond have 8 times the number of votes for Ron Paul than Richmond? I smell a big fat rat! At the same time Arlington, VA where Ron Paul actually has a campaign office only got 706 votes with 100% reporting. It doesn’t make sense. So who got those votes? assuming they look at final totals Virginia Republican Primary 12-Feb-08 Delegates: 64 County Results --- 100% Reporting Delegates Won 60 1 McCain 244,135 50% 2 Huckabee 198,247 41% 3 Ron Paul 22,056 5% 4 Romney 17,532 4% 5 Thompson 3,596 1% 6 Giulliani 2,080 0% Source: AOL
#2. To: christine (#1)
#3. To: christine (#1)
when this first began, never ever did i think mcCain would be the selection.
#4. To: ------- (#3)
#5. To: robin (#4)
#6. To: Original_Intent (#5)
#7. To: christine (#1)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#8. To: wudidiz (#6)
#9. To: robin (#7)
#10. To: FOH (#9)
#11. To: TwentyTwelve (#10)
#12. To: TwentyTwelve (#10)
1 McCain 71,849 46%
#13. To: FOH (#10)
#14. To: angle (#11)
Where's that thread you posted about how delegates work? We need it on the other thread.
#15. To: angle (#11)
Where's that thread you posted about how delegates work? We need it on the other thread.
#16. To: TwentyTwelve (#14)
#17. To: angle (#11)
Where's that thread you posted about how delegates work? We need it on the other thread.
#18. To: angle (#16)
#19. To: angle (#16)
#20. To: TwentyTwelve (#19)
NOW LET’S KEEP WORKING!
#21. To: FOH (#19)
#22. To: buckeye (#20)
In my opinion? Nothing to lose and everything to gain by this strategy.
#23. To: Peppa (#22)
#24. To: robin (#21)
#25. To: Peppa, buckeye (#22)
Unless you're put on the no-fly list.
#26. To: TwentyTwelve (#25)
This would not be good.
#27. To: angle (#16)
#28. To: Peppa (#26)
But what if, you decide to pretend you are an Obama delegate,and then change your mind when you get there?
#29. To: buckeye (#23)
Wouldn't inconvenience me as I strongly dislike flying and really have no need.
#30. To: TwentyTwelve (#28)
But what if, you decide to pretend you are an Obama delegate,and then change your mind when you get there? How about claiming to be a Hillary delegate?
#31. To: Peppa (#29)
#32. To: buckeye (#31)
I just can't figure out how Naomi Wolf got on the watch list.
#33. To: Peppa (#32)
#34. To: buckeye (#23)
#35. To: buckeye (#33)
#36. To: TwentyTwelve (#34)
#37. To: TwentyTwelve (#34)
1 McCain 160,007 49%
2 Huckabee 140,538 43%
#38. To: buckeye (#37)
Neck and neck. Those Virginians sure do have a variety of ideas about things.
#39. To: buckeye (#37)
#40. To: Cynicom (#36)
Obama takes DC, another startling win.
#41. To: TwentyTwelve (#40)
#42. To: Cynicom (#41)
Here is what Newtie had to say...
#43. To: buckeye (#37)
#44. To: TwentyTwelve (#43)
3 Ron Paul 18,127 4%
#45. To: buckeye, ALL (#37)
#46. To: TwentyTwelve (#45)
#47. To: buckeye, Cynicom (#46)
Yes it is strange that Ron Paul's percentage was flat, regardless of the flow of urban/rural precinct reporting.
#48. To: buckeye, Cynicom (#46)
#49. To: TwentyTwelve, robin (#19)
#50. To: TwentyTwelve (#47)
Yes it is strange that Ron Paul's percentage was flat
#51. To: angle, TwentyTwelve (#50)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#52. To: angle, robin (#49)
Robin asked: "So why did Ron Paul say in his message of the 8th that since Romney quit a brokered convention is not possible. "
#53. To: Robin, FOH, all (#51)
v-o-t-e-r f-r-a-u-d
#54. To: Robin, FOH, all (#51)
v-o-t-e-r f-r-a-u-d
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