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Title: Obama blames Bush for economic downturn in speech to autoworkers
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WKBT (AP)
URL Source: http://wkbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=7865717
Published: Feb 13, 2008
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2008-02-13 15:46:21 by aristeides
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Views: 209
Comments: 14
Obama blames Bush for economic downturn in speech to autoworkers Associated Press - February 13, 2008 11:45 AM ET JANESVILLE, Wis. (AP) - Barack Obama blamed President Bush today for the economic downturn in remarks to General Motors workers in Janesville. The automakers are among 74,000 GM employees considering a buyout offer. The Democratic presidential candidate is speaking at the Janesville plant a day after the company reported the largest annual loss ever for an American automaker - nearly $39 billion in 2007. Obama says it's failed leadership and imagination in Washington that caused economic struggles, including the housing crisis. Obama is promising to end tax breaks for companies who ship jobs overseas and not to sign trade agreements unless they include protections for the environment and American workers. He criticizes Bush for giving tax cuts to corporations and the rich while spending billions on the war in Iraq. Obama also rebukes Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Republican front-runner John McCain for supporting the war.
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#1. To: aristeides, Brian S, Elliott Jackalope (#0)
Wow! Just like both party platforms for two hundred years, protect (truly) American businesses and American employees.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! Well said.
W Bush made a lot of promises, too. Remember the humble foreign policy pledge? How about Bush Sr.'s "No New Taxes" pledge? Oh, I forgot, the "Democrats" don't lie.
Oh, Democrats lie too, all the time, no doubt. But, the "powers that be" are not totally stupid, they have to be at least a little bit smart to hang on to their precious power. As of now, even the dimmest and most stubborn among them have to be noticing just how upset the proles are getting. Heck, that footage of Sean Hannity running down the street while being chased by an angry mob of Ron Paul supporters had to get their attention, if only for a moment. Either they are going to start throwing a few bones to the proles, or they are going to find themselves on the wrong end of a truly angry uprising. But there's even more to it than that: They exist to enrich themselves, right? Well, how can they enrich themselves from the labor of an impoverished population? These things go in cycles, always have, always will. As of now, the time has come for the tide to start flowing back to America, specifically American workers. Either they are going to bring back some manufacturing and hence some jobs to American workers, or they are going to simultaneously provoke chaos and upheaval while at the same time causing the entire global economy to grind to a halt. Keep in mind who exactly it is who actually buys all that stuff from China and India. It's not the elites who are shopping at Wal-Mart.
Obama is promising to end tax breaks for companies who ship jobs overseas and not to sign trade agreements unless they include protections for the environment and American workers.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#2. To: aristeides (#0)
I've already said too much.
#3. To: aristeides (#0)
Obama is promising to end tax breaks for companies who ship jobs overseas and not to sign trade agreements unless they include protections for the environment and American workers.
#4. To: Vitamin Z (#3)
 | Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#5. To: aristeides (#0)
OTOH, perhaps a bit too much imagination led to the pie in the sky monetary policies.
it's failed leadership and imagination in Washington that caused economic struggles
#6. To: Elliott Jackalope (#4)
Oh please! They are not the least worried about holding on to their power. Amazing little unravelling of the doublespeak going on around here. Wasn't it just yesterday you were telling people an uprising would be met with worse? Ummmmmm. So basically, you want to let Obama just put it in a little bit, cuz he's different than the rest. Ohhhhhhkay.
But, the "powers that be" are not totally stupid, they have to be at least a little bit smart to hang on to their precious power.
#7. To: Peppa (#6)
Yes, I did say that, and I still think any violence is going to be met with worse, and I don't want to encourage people to do anything rash or stupid or violent, OK? But also keep in mind that if you keep pushing and pushing and pushing people, they're going to push back. Furthermore, I'm not a fan of Obama, alright? However, I deeply despise Hillary, and I won't even mention the Republican party. So, if I'm not for Hillary, and I'm not for the Republicans, then all that's left is Obama, alright? Am I for the guy? Not really, but I'd rather see him in office than Hillary. Now, ball in your court: Since you're apparently against everything, what exactly are YOU for? Or what do YOU suggest anyone do? Got anything to say other than "everything stinks"?
Wasn't it just yesterday you were telling people an uprising would be met with worse?
| Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#8. To: Elliott Jackalope (#7) (Edited)
That's of course if you can rationalize that the Dem PARTY is any better at all. They sure haven't shown it, and Obama has proven nothing but that he has nice speeches. Whatever floats your boat. Now, ball in your court: Since you're apparently against everything, what exactly are YOU for? Or what do YOU suggest anyone do? Got anything to say other than "everything stinks"? You must have me confused with someone else. I'm for what Ron Paul represents and has been trying to do ALONE in congress. I'm not for Globalists. So, if that bothers you, then we of course no anyone standing up to people like them, like OBAMA (CFR), then you are suggesting we support our own suicide. HTH
that's left is Obama
#9. To: Peppa (#8)
Ah yes. Ron Paul, the great savior. And how many primaries has he won? Actually WON? This is the guy who everyone thinks is going to ride in on his white horse and save the day, but he can't win any primaries? If he can't get even one clean victory of any one state's primary, how is he supposed to get any support or traction in Congress? And by the way, could you be just a little nastier and more condescending in your posts? Just to really help make your point even better, can you ramp up the venom just a touch?
| Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#10. To: Elliott Jackalope (#9)
And by the way, could you be just a little nastier and more condescending in your posts? Just to really help make your point even better, can you ramp up the venom just a touch? You know, you have access to his record. You can see exactly what he has done and tried to do. Accomplishments in the name of Liberty from anyone else? Anyone? And yet you want to let the Lucy party hold the football again? That's nasty? What's nasty, is selected blindness. Hope you get better.
Ah yes. Ron Paul, the great savior. And how many primaries has he won? Actually WON? This is the guy who everyone thinks is going to ride in on his white horse and save the day, but he can't win any primaries? If he can't get even one clean victory of any one state's primary, how is he supposed to get any support or traction in Congress?
#11. To: aristeides, Elliott Jackalope, Brian S (#0)
Obama's Varied Record Somewhat illuminating.
ap.google.com/article/ALe...c4z-ouww5y_5zfhgD8U753I80
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised!
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#12. To: Elliott Jackalope (#4)
Either they are going to start throwing a few bones to the proles, or they are going to find themselves on the wrong end of a truly angry uprising. But there's even more to it than that: They exist to enrich themselves, right? Well, how can they enrich themselves from the labor of an impoverished population? These things go in cycles, always have, always will. As of now, the time has come for the tide to start flowing back to America, specifically American workers. Either they are going to bring back some manufacturing and hence some jobs to American workers, or they are going to simultaneously provoke chaos and upheaval while at the same time causing the entire global economy to grind to a halt. Keep in mind who exactly it is who actually buys all that stuff from China and India. It's not the elites who are shopping at Wal-Mart. Thoughtful post.
Oh, Democrats lie too, all the time, no doubt. But, the "powers that be" are not totally stupid, they have to be at least a little bit smart to hang on to their precious power. As of now, even the dimmest and most stubborn among them have to be noticing just how upset the proles are getting. Heck, that footage of Sean Hannity running down the street while being chased by an angry mob of Ron Paul supporters had to get their attention, if only for a moment.
#13. To: Peppa (#10) (Edited)
That's nasty? What's nasty, is selected blindness. Hope you get better. I've been thinking about your reply all day. I think I finally have an answer for you. Ultimately, it comes down to a simple choice. I can choose to have a modicum of hope, however slender, that perhaps a fresh person in the White House can maybe, just maybe actually do a few good things and maybe make life in the Screw Us All just a little less Hellish. Or, I can simply decide that they're all evil incarnate, that there is no hope whatsoever, then I can go in the back room and blow my brains out. So, maybe I'm being a damned fool for holding out even a sliver of hope that maybe someone like Obama might make things just a little better for average people in this evil festering Hellhole called scAmerica. But my alternative is to totally give up all hope whatsoever, and then I may as well put a 9mm bullet in my head. Or, better yet, go on some kind of vicious, violent spree and extract bloody revenge for a while, before being put down like a rabid dog. You can go ahead and call me a fool, an idiot, a moron, a dupe, whatever ugly names you want to project from the black depths of your depressed, hopeless, withered and pitiable soul. You're probably right. But I guess I'd rather be a fool and a dupe and an idiot than become the miserable, pitiful shriveled up little black spot of a wretch that so many have chosen to be. So, have a nice day, pray to your fake God that you don't really believe in, and enjoy being a miserable, hopeless, shriveled up little black hole of hopeless depression. Just don't get upset when some of us decide we'd rather be fools with hope than "realists" who wallow in misery and despair.
And yet you want to let the Lucy party hold the football again?
| Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#14. To: Elliott Jackalope (#13)
Frankly, you don't know me at all to say what I believe it, but I'll make it simple. Peace. Using your logic ofRon Pauls lack of a successful policy agenda, as a cause for abandoning him, that speaks really to your own faith. Meaning, by your logic, we should vote Bush in again, as his agenda has been forced down our throats. You have given up on true hope for a false one. Falling to the song the devil sings to your ear, if you do something bad for me, I'll do something good for you. Well he got you.
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