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Title: I have to say, I am very surprised at the number of 4um posters who are considering voting for Obama or any of the Establishment picks....
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Published: Feb 13, 2008
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2008-02-13 19:56:40 by christine
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By voting for any one of them, you support and lend legitimacy to the fraud. Isn't it time we say no and no more?

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#102. To: All (#99)

je ne comprende pas

kiki  posted on  2008-02-13   22:46:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Vitamin Z (#100)

We will NEVER leave the Middle East.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-13   22:47:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: christine (#36)

do you honestly believe that a CFR candidate beholdin' to his masters is going to bring the troops home from Iraq?

The logic I laid out assumes that Obama would. If he wouldn't then were back to the single consideration of: "If it ain't Ron Paul, we're screwed".

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-13   22:48:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: FOH (#98)

I have four words - and one de - for you.....

Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-13   22:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: iconoclast (#37)

I hope your non-vote brings you much comfort and solace through the four to eight miserable years of Hitlery or Mclame.

So you're votin Obama?

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-13   22:49:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: christine (#83)

oh, excellent, but the vote for one of their preselected simply reinforces a belief in the fraudulent system and that we-the-people want more of the same.

That's why Obama is actually worse than Hillary or McLame. Everyone knows that Hill and McLame suck, but people actually think Obama is "change" and "hope" and "different" and "fresh." Thus, if he gets in, it will sort of impliedly legitimize the status quo.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-13   22:50:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Cynicom (#101)

Ron Paul could have been a major factor this year.

Which is probably why he's bowed out.

Let the OWMs hoist up their own without having a 3rd Party scapegoat to blame.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-02-13   22:52:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Vitamin Z (#107)

Thus, if he gets in, it will sort of impliedly legitimize the status quo.

That is possible and plausible but not highly probable.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-13   22:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Cynicom (#103)

We will NEVER leave the Middle East.

I know. Obama might bring home a few hundred troops and the media will say, "Troops are home!" Throw a doggy a bone...

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-13   22:53:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Cynicom (#109)

To: Vitamin Z

Thus, if he gets in, it will sort of impliedly legitimize the status quo.

That is possible and plausible but not highly probable.

Which part, Obama winning or that event legitimizing the status quo?

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-13   22:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: kiki, robin, iconoclast, Brian S, ALL (#102)

ok, you guys, i'll give you that i'd much rather have to hear obama's voice for 4 yrs (assuming that we still have a country that long) rather than that hillary whine.

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-13   22:55:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Vitamin Z (#110)

I know. Obama might bring home a few hundred troops and the media will say, "Troops are home!" Throw a doggy a bone...

If you have not done so, you might look around and find that this government/military is preparing for far greater things in the future. Iraq is the cover.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-13   22:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: christine (#112)

ok, you guys, i'll give you that i'd much rather have to hear obama's voice for 4 yrs (assuming that we still have a country that long) rather than that hillary whine.

Ha...

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-13   22:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Jethro Tull (#105)

Remember Goliad!

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-02-13   22:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Pinguinite (#104)

www.rense.com/general79/obam.htm< /a>

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-13   22:56:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: iconoclast (#79)

We tried that.

I don't think we have. Until it seriously affects basic things like food, clothing, and shelter, "bad" is kinda relative.

It was literally impossible for those with soft-cyber chips in their head to imagine evil of the Korozhet.

Tauzero  posted on  2008-02-13   22:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: FOH, cynicom, all (#115)

The East Lawn Easter Egg hunt, April, 2009

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-13   22:57:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Jethro Tull (#118)

hahahahahahahaha....dying laughing

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-13   22:58:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Cynicom (#113)

If you have not done so, you might look around and find that this government/military is preparing for far greater things in the future. Iraq is the cover.

But of course. It's the Global War on Terra. It can't just end. It's global, so it can never end, right?

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-13   22:58:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: christine (#112)

ok, you guys, i'll give you that i'd much rather have to hear obama's voice for 4 yrs (assuming that we still have a country that long) rather than that hillary whine.

They'll all be talking to the hand...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-02-13   22:58:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Jethro Tull (#118)

FOFLOLOL!

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-02-13   22:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Jethro Tull, christine, kiki (#118)

Gov. Rendell said it out loud in public, his state will not vote for a black president.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-13   22:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Jethro Tull (#118)

seriously, my stomach is hurting from laughing so hard!!!!!!

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-13   22:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Vitamin Z (#120)

But of course. It's the Global War on Terra. It can't just end. It's global, so it can never end, right?

So much "democracy" to spread, so little time to spread all of it...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-02-13   22:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: FOH (#122)

we have the same sense of humor!

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-13   23:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: christine (#119)

stop laffing. Thats Jethro on the left in his new dress.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-13   23:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Vitamin Z (#120)

Never end but the charade of terrorism will be unmasked.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-13   23:01:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: christine, Jethro Tull (#126)

JT is a peculiarly rare whit...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-02-13   23:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: FOH (#129)

JT is a peculiarly rare whit...

Wrong.

Jethro is not quite right so please do not encourage him.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-13   23:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: orangedog (#33)

And you think that a third party would have a chance to ramp up from early March to have a victory in November? Roughly 8 months time....I have a bridge out here.....

Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.

rowdee  posted on  2008-02-13   23:03:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: christine, Brian S (#112)

ok, you guys, i'll give you that i'd much rather have to hear obama's voice for 4 yrs (assuming that we still have a country that long) rather than that hillary whine.

Sounds like an endorsement to me!!

Hey Brian, ping to the ol Obama 08 list!

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Pinguinite  posted on  2008-02-13   23:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: FOH (#129)

If Jethro has been good all day, Christine throws him an extra banana.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-13   23:05:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Pinguinite (#132)

Sounds like an endorsement to me!!

Hey Brian, ping to the ol Obama 08 list!

FREEDOM4UM ENDORSES OBAMA. Time to take out a few ads!

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-13   23:07:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Cynicom (#130)

Wrong.

Jethro is not quite right so please do not encourage him.

Don't make me come over there.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-02-13   23:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: christine (#112)

ok, you guys, i'll give you that i'd much rather have to hear obama's voice for 4 yrs

:) interesting, because I read an article recently that said that the president's job, really, is to communicate with the public. it's gotten all weird with signing statements and executive orders and secret courts that are making the presidency a lawmaking and judicial entity, which it wasn't supposed to be. if the president's job is to give great speeches and make everyone feel good, then obama is the obvious choice. but we're not there.

kiki  posted on  2008-02-13   23:07:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: kiki (#136)

if the president's job is to give great speeches and make everyone feel good, then obama is the obvious choice.

Problem is, I think like 90% of the population thinks that is the president's primary job! Exhibit A: Barack Obama.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-13   23:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: rowdee (#131)

And you think that a third party would have a chance to ramp up from early March to have a victory in November? Roughly 8 months time....I have a bridge out here.....

You're republican through to your core...good thing for you Ron Paul is too.

Bad thing for America, though.

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-02-13   23:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: kiki (#136)

kiki...

Take some loot out of that old sock and place it on Obama to lose. Make a few bucks and cheat Uncle Sam.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-13   23:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Vitamin Z (#134)

FREEDOM4UM ENDORSES OBAMA. Time to take out a few ads!

I am hitting the road at precisely the right time.

I could not take another forum going establishment on me...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-02-13   23:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Cynicom (#139)

Take some loot out of that old sock and place it on Obama to lose

I still think he'll lose, too. There has to be a reason why Hillary hasn't sent out the full blown attack dogs yet. Waiting, waiting...

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-13   23:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: FOH (#140)

I could not take another forum going establishment on me...

Most of them do, eventually. And the ones that don't, if they become popular enough, just get bought out anyway. 4um isn't that popular yet.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-13   23:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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