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Title: I have to say, I am very surprised at the number of 4um posters who are considering voting for Obama or any of the Establishment picks....
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Published: Feb 13, 2008
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2008-02-13 19:56:40 by christine
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By voting for any one of them, you support and lend legitimacy to the fraud. Isn't it time we say no and no more?
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#165. To: FOH (#140)
I could not take another forum going establishment on me... I'm sorry. honestly. I feel like I pissed you off and that was certainly not my intention. I'm hanging out in a forum where I feel like I don't agree with a lot of people, a lot of the time. I do also agree some of the time. both are good things. surrounding yourself with differing opinions makes you think, and rethink, and that's always a good thing. I hope you stay, and put your opinion forward, and work to convince people. we're all growing.
No, but saw the preview and it looked good.
Nope, Obama is taking the Clintons out. Oh happy day. Yet another reason to reward him with my vote vs. McNutter.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Me? A republocrap? Are you 'teched in the head'? I left that bunch a long time ago. Ron Paul is the only reason I would be putting a mark by an 'r'......or a 'd', for that matter!
Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.
Pennsylvania: Philadelphia on one side, Pittsburgh on the other, with Arkansas in the middle.
If you study the numbers etc you will find the Obamas win numbers are somewhat skewed. For instance big banner headlines that Obama takes DC. Fine..check the NUMBER of pub votes vs the number of dem votes, therein lies the falsehood.
OR: New Jersey on one side, Ohio on the other, and Arkansas in the middle...
Come on, JT. You and chrissy have got to chip in a couple of votes for Obama and help defeat Hillary in TX and PA. Best votes you'll ever cast. LOL.
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How could any Texan vote for Hillary after Waco?
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! For instance big banner headlines that Obama takes DC. Fine..check the NUMBER of pub votes vs the number of dem votes, therein lies the falsehood. Something certainly does not seem right. I guess we'll find out exactly what sooner or later.
Amen from the peanut gallery.
Good point, but I think that is now considered "ancient history" to some people! Short attention spans and what not...
Better yet! I'll forward to Fast Eddie Rendel.
2012 last nite posted the total number of votes cast by dem and pubs in DC, it was startling and as for a win for Obama, meant nothing, it was all hype.
probably most couldn't find waco on the map.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
No doubt in my mind that hillary, coming from Illinois, has the contacts there to have all the dirt, and then some, on obama==or perhaps his wife. She is hellbent on becoming prez...........and no doubt there were some fbi files that sat missing for a while that had little nuggets of info bout the likes of mccain and/or other high profile craps.
Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.
I've been clean since my vote in '00 for Buchanan. It's very liberating not having a dog in the fight, but I have to say Obama will provide one last gasp of laughter for the politically incorrect like myself. "So Let it Be Written - So Let it Be Done"
What if I leave the house and run into a gang of 17 murdering criminals?
Hahaha! Hillary and/or Obama will be the apex of PC. Hopefully they name Richardson to some high level cabinet position just to complete the spectrum.
Separated at birth:
"She had rings on her fingers and bells on her toes and a bone in her nose ho ho!"
Since we're endorsing Obama the magic negro, how about we form a "Violence Never Solves Anything Club" and pre- emptively turn in our guns and anything sharp or pointy?
Let me tell you about Ahab the Arab
And he loved a goil named Fatima! :)
The anarchist viewpoint tends to run to the theory of voting for the worst person running as to make the system collapse on itself faster. I can't think that way. I am using my vote as leverage to help kill Hillary's candidacy. I am a Pacific Green, and I may return to the Democratic roles for the primary to vote against Hillary. I just can't stomach the thought of ever being registered Republican, but if I thought it would make a difference I would register as one to help Ron Paul. I have a small window to decide what I am going to do before the Oregon primary, but I am game to piss in the hat Hillary threw in the ring. I loathe the Clintons with passion, and want to give her a chance to actually be a senator. Actually serving is something she never intended on. That seat is a polish the apple gambit, and I hate their hypocrisy. I am also born and raised as a Connecticut Yankee, and I want Lieberman's political scalp on a pike as well. McCain I loathe with every fiber of my being. You don't replace an arrogant, stuck up insane chimp with the same sort of creature who differs only in that he looks like a gram-pa orangutan instead of the sort of primate Tarzan called buddy. None of these people have more then my greatest disdain. Obama has the potential of proving himself. If I am forced to make a leap of faith, he would get my support. I empathize with your sentiments here Christine; but some people can't just do nothing. Some people just feel compelled to try to do the least worst choice of things to do in a situation like this. And it is worse to try to stop them then to go ahead and let them do the ritual that might be self delusional, as it usually helps them keep their sanity.
We could also sell pink & yellow t-shirts and balloons that say "I'm unarmed so please don't hurt me! -- Obama for President!"
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promise you'll shoot me first before you turn yours in. ;)
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
And it is worse to try to stop them then to go ahead and let them do the ritual that might be self delusional, as it usually helps them keep their sanity. while i disagree with the rationale, you succeeded in making me understand it better.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
Before you shoot her, I'd like to have a couple of hours alone with her, if you don't mind.
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sometimes doing nothing is the right thing, but it's a very difficult thing to do if you consider yourself an activist. a contradiction, if you will. we each have to sort it out on our own terms. sadly, people with the same ultimate purpose can get all caught up in the details. I hate it when politics messes up friendships.
How about you & me stand back to back and shoot everybody else instead?
you'll prepare the body? ;P
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
Hey Robin...the Obama 2008 'ping list' membership is up to 2... Welcome to the list Neil. Certainly since we are in dire straights anyway...at least we can have fun while at it.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
deal. i'll bring my RPG launcher.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
I understand where you are coming from, probably better then you realize. I supported Kerry the last time around and defended him stoutly at LP. I blew the whistle on petitioner fraud in Portland, Oregon and got Nader's attempt to get on the ballot to fail. I knew it was Republican money paying to have these homeless and often drug addicted petitioners gather names which they traded, made up, got from phone books, or from people they told the petition was to keep Nader off the ballot, not put him on it. I felt that Kerry was the one most likely to give into arm twisting to end the war, a judgment I now see I was wrong about. I think I have been an effective activist. But the hind sight of history doesn't always make you feel good about either you actually did the right thing or not. It was fraud, uncovered and verified fairly. But should I of bothered pointing it out to those who had the means to do something about it? Whatever I do this country is in serious trouble. let us say I at least know that is beyond any doubt. ;-)
Yet Ron Paul steadfastly maintains his GOP affiliation and dismisses a 3rd party run? Ron Paul, with his decision, has demonstrated for all to see that he IS part of the 'establishment'...the GOP establishment. He built to machine to leave the 'establishment', yet he pissed it away and is now groveling for GOP votes to retain his rep seat.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Quit crying. He is doing the only thing he can under the circumstances. How can you not give the guy any credit? 11 started this race. There are 3 left, and a lot of bigger named media darlings went away a lot sooner. Anyone that counts RP out at this point needs his head examined. To steal a quote from someone else, he is playing chess while the rest played checkers.
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Happy Valentine's Day!
This "Super Delegates" issue is beyond me. It looks like they, whoever they are will select the Dems candidate. I hear they will be people like Bill Clinton, Donna Brasile etc. If they go to that much trouble to circumvent the voting process would it not seen plauseble that they would follow through and defeat MacLame also?
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
Counting him out... Tell me how you actually think RP has a chance to become POTUS in 2009? I really want to know.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Well, actually the first bullet is to kill the sonofabitch, and the other 16 are just to make sure he's really dead. Leastways that is how I see it....
Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.
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#166. To: christine (#158)
yep...have y'all seen the movie 'Man of the Year' with Robin Williams?
#167. To: Pinguinite (#160)
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Actually it sounds like Hillary's your man, Arator.
#168. To: FOH (#138)
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#169. To: Cynicom (#163)
#170. To: Vitamin Z (#164)
Seems logical to me, but so far Obama is kicking Confederate- state ass and taking redneck names.
#171. To: Jethro Tull (#169)
Pennsylvania: Philadelphia on one side, Pittsburgh on the other, with Arkansas in the middle.
#172. To: Jethro Tull, christine (#169)
#173. To: Arator (#172)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#174. To: Cynicom (#170)
If you study the numbers etc you will find the Obamas win numbers are somewhat skewed.
#175. To: robin (#173)
How could any Texan vote for Hillary after Waco?
#176. To: robin (#173)
How could any Texan vote for Hillary after Waco?
#177. To: Vitamin Z (#171)
OR: New Jersey on one side, Ohio on the other, and Arkansas in the middle...
#178. To: Vitamin Z (#174)
#179. To: robin (#173)
#180. To: Arator (#167)
#181. To: Arator (#172)
#182. To: FOH (#45)
"It's hard for me to find a rationale for having a 17-clip semiautomatic
#183. To: Jethro Tull (#181)
but I have to say Obama will provide one last gasp of laughter for the politically incorrect like myself.
#184. To: Vitamin Z (#183)
Hopefully they name Richardson to some high level cabinet position just to complete the spectrum.
#185. To: Jethro Tull (#118)
#186. To: christine (#179)
#187. To: HOUNDDAWG (#185)
The sheik of the burning sand
#188. To: Jethro Tull (#187)
#189. To: christine (#0)
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"By voting for any one of them, you support and lend legitimacy to the fraud. Isn't it time we say no and no more?"
#190. To: Esso (#186)
how about we form a "Violence Never Solves Anything Club" and pre- emptively turn in our guns and anything sharp or pointy?
#191. To: Esso (#186)
#192. To: Ferret Mike (#189)
I empathize with your sentiments here Christine; but some people can't just do nothing. Some people just feel compelled to try to do the least worst choice of things to do in a situation like this.
#193. To: christine, Esso (#191)
promise you'll shoot me first before you turn yours in. ;)
#194. To: Ferret Mike (#189)
I empathize with your sentiments here Christine; but some people can't just do nothing.
#195. To: christine (#191)
#196. To: Critter (#193)
#197. To: robin, Pinguinite, *Obama 2008* (#59)
#198. To: Esso (#195)
#199. To: kiki (#194)
#200. To: FOH (#39)
How someone could go from supporting Ron Paul to supporting an establishment candidate defies words. It's only more proof that there aren't that many left here worth fighting for, imo. And yet we kept working...
#201. To: Brian S (#200)
#202. To: christine (#198)
#203. To: christine (#198)
#204. To: Critter (#201)
Anyone that counts RP out at this point needs his head examined. To steal a quote from someone else, he is playing chess while the rest played checkers.
#205. To: HOUNDDAWG (#182)
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