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Title: I have to say, I am very surprised at the number of 4um posters who are considering voting for Obama or any of the Establishment picks....
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Published: Feb 13, 2008
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2008-02-13 19:56:40 by christine
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By voting for any one of them, you support and lend legitimacy to the fraud. Isn't it time we say no and no more?
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#180. To: Arator (#167)
No doubt in my mind that hillary, coming from Illinois, has the contacts there to have all the dirt, and then some, on obama==or perhaps his wife. She is hellbent on becoming prez...........and no doubt there were some fbi files that sat missing for a while that had little nuggets of info bout the likes of mccain and/or other high profile craps.
Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.
I've been clean since my vote in '00 for Buchanan. It's very liberating not having a dog in the fight, but I have to say Obama will provide one last gasp of laughter for the politically incorrect like myself. "So Let it Be Written - So Let it Be Done"
What if I leave the house and run into a gang of 17 murdering criminals?
Hahaha! Hillary and/or Obama will be the apex of PC. Hopefully they name Richardson to some high level cabinet position just to complete the spectrum.
Separated at birth:
"She had rings on her fingers and bells on her toes and a bone in her nose ho ho!"
Since we're endorsing Obama the magic negro, how about we form a "Violence Never Solves Anything Club" and pre- emptively turn in our guns and anything sharp or pointy?
Let me tell you about Ahab the Arab
And he loved a goil named Fatima! :)
The anarchist viewpoint tends to run to the theory of voting for the worst person running as to make the system collapse on itself faster. I can't think that way. I am using my vote as leverage to help kill Hillary's candidacy. I am a Pacific Green, and I may return to the Democratic roles for the primary to vote against Hillary. I just can't stomach the thought of ever being registered Republican, but if I thought it would make a difference I would register as one to help Ron Paul. I have a small window to decide what I am going to do before the Oregon primary, but I am game to piss in the hat Hillary threw in the ring. I loathe the Clintons with passion, and want to give her a chance to actually be a senator. Actually serving is something she never intended on. That seat is a polish the apple gambit, and I hate their hypocrisy. I am also born and raised as a Connecticut Yankee, and I want Lieberman's political scalp on a pike as well. McCain I loathe with every fiber of my being. You don't replace an arrogant, stuck up insane chimp with the same sort of creature who differs only in that he looks like a gram-pa orangutan instead of the sort of primate Tarzan called buddy. None of these people have more then my greatest disdain. Obama has the potential of proving himself. If I am forced to make a leap of faith, he would get my support. I empathize with your sentiments here Christine; but some people can't just do nothing. Some people just feel compelled to try to do the least worst choice of things to do in a situation like this. And it is worse to try to stop them then to go ahead and let them do the ritual that might be self delusional, as it usually helps them keep their sanity.
We could also sell pink & yellow t-shirts and balloons that say "I'm unarmed so please don't hurt me! -- Obama for President!"
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promise you'll shoot me first before you turn yours in. ;)
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
And it is worse to try to stop them then to go ahead and let them do the ritual that might be self delusional, as it usually helps them keep their sanity. while i disagree with the rationale, you succeeded in making me understand it better.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
Before you shoot her, I'd like to have a couple of hours alone with her, if you don't mind.
Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution
sometimes doing nothing is the right thing, but it's a very difficult thing to do if you consider yourself an activist. a contradiction, if you will. we each have to sort it out on our own terms. sadly, people with the same ultimate purpose can get all caught up in the details. I hate it when politics messes up friendships.
How about you & me stand back to back and shoot everybody else instead?
you'll prepare the body? ;P
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
Hey Robin...the Obama 2008 'ping list' membership is up to 2... Welcome to the list Neil. Certainly since we are in dire straights anyway...at least we can have fun while at it.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
deal. i'll bring my RPG launcher.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
I understand where you are coming from, probably better then you realize. I supported Kerry the last time around and defended him stoutly at LP. I blew the whistle on petitioner fraud in Portland, Oregon and got Nader's attempt to get on the ballot to fail. I knew it was Republican money paying to have these homeless and often drug addicted petitioners gather names which they traded, made up, got from phone books, or from people they told the petition was to keep Nader off the ballot, not put him on it. I felt that Kerry was the one most likely to give into arm twisting to end the war, a judgment I now see I was wrong about. I think I have been an effective activist. But the hind sight of history doesn't always make you feel good about either you actually did the right thing or not. It was fraud, uncovered and verified fairly. But should I of bothered pointing it out to those who had the means to do something about it? Whatever I do this country is in serious trouble. let us say I at least know that is beyond any doubt. ;-)
Yet Ron Paul steadfastly maintains his GOP affiliation and dismisses a 3rd party run? Ron Paul, with his decision, has demonstrated for all to see that he IS part of the 'establishment'...the GOP establishment. He built to machine to leave the 'establishment', yet he pissed it away and is now groveling for GOP votes to retain his rep seat.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Quit crying. He is doing the only thing he can under the circumstances. How can you not give the guy any credit? 11 started this race. There are 3 left, and a lot of bigger named media darlings went away a lot sooner. Anyone that counts RP out at this point needs his head examined. To steal a quote from someone else, he is playing chess while the rest played checkers.
Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution
Happy Valentine's Day!
This "Super Delegates" issue is beyond me. It looks like they, whoever they are will select the Dems candidate. I hear they will be people like Bill Clinton, Donna Brasile etc. If they go to that much trouble to circumvent the voting process would it not seen plauseble that they would follow through and defeat MacLame also?
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
Counting him out... Tell me how you actually think RP has a chance to become POTUS in 2009? I really want to know.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
Well, actually the first bullet is to kill the sonofabitch, and the other 16 are just to make sure he's really dead. Leastways that is how I see it....
Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.
In a word, lots of "conservative" R's hate McCain, and he's the only one who has a mathematical chance at winning the nomination outright. If he doesn't win outright, it could be messy. Ron Paul could be selected as everyone's compromise. Particularly if we pound the hell out of his message between now and then. You asked...
Pinguinite.com EcuadorTreasures.ec
In a word, lots of "conservative" R's hate McCain, and he's the only one who has a mathematical chance at winning the nomination outright. If he doesn't win outright, it could be messy. Ron Paul could be selected as everyone's compromise. Particularly if we pound the hell out of his message between now and then. You asked... Conservatives are looking for someone else. McCain is not their guy.
At this point Mike, I wouldn't be so sure that all votes for marxist obama won't end up not being counted. Registering a good-conscience vote for Ron Paul would more likely send the message that YOU, my FRIEND, want to send. You'll never forgive yourself if the OWM-puppet du jour actually WINS. Please, help Americans STOP the North American Union and say "NOT JUST NO, but HELL NO!" to EVER lending your hand to one of their victories. That's the BEST plea I have to offer you. FOH
Our last hope for peace I mean SERIOUSLY, how can ANYONE of good conscience EVER support a OWM? EVER!!
Our last hope for peace Screw that, you can wield a weapon. Aim to take a few with you! ;)
Our last hope for peace Hogwash. Everyone, every AMERICAN, has had to 'nut up' and give up something to stand for freedom. We all, as AMERICANS, better suck it up and get real RIGHT NOW or we're F-*-_-c-k-e-d! That's a capital Eff.
Our last hope for peace bass turd. LOLOL!
Our last hope for peace I guess for me it's so simple because I clearly see how close we are to it being all over. We're there. They will Amnesty the permanet NAU majority within nothing flat. EVERY single one of them are CFR-Trilat-Bilderberg-NAUers. It's OVER. The dollar is collapsing, COL is skyrocketing, banks are failing, cash is being printed and tossed around like holy water...there will be a crisis that brings the Official® crisis, right on time, and *poof* it's NAU time. That's the END of our liberties, freedoms, lifestyle...our nation. Currency dies AGAIN and we're effed. Over. That's WHY we can't EVER support "THEM". That's MY message and I know what I'm talking about.
Our last hope for peace I predict that a reasonable CP candidate will get 5% just by default...
Our last hope for peace We, The People, are better educated and informed about current events and economic trends than the average American of 1929, thanks to the internet. That gives us the advantage of seeing the approaching financial turmoil that could equal the mess of 1929 that ushered in the socialist crap of FDR, except that our government is going to screw us even harder than FDR ever dreamed was possible.
"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck
I really want to know. One word, dude: SuperDuperDelegates
Ron Paul, with his decision, has demonstrated for all to see that he IS part of the 'establishment'...the GOP establishment. He built to machine to leave the 'establishment', yet he pissed it away and is now groveling for GOP votes to retain his rep seat. I would never go so far as to call Ron "establishment". However, he did blink. He backed down for a reason. It's BS and that's why 'we' mourn. The political option died when Ron Paul surrendered to November. Why'd he effin fold??? It doesn't matter, he folded. So, what? We can FOLD TO THEM AS WELL!? Bull shit.
Our last hope for peace It could be much higher than 5%.
How can you not give the guy any credit? 11 started this race. There are 3 left, and a lot of bigger named media darlings went away a lot sooner. Anyone that counts RP out at this point needs his head examined. To steal a quote from someone else, he is playing chess while the rest played checkers. I wish I got *that* vibe from the Paul campaign. "Take back the GOP" ain't going to get best or most timely effect. It sucks.
Our last hope for peace The next step for the OWM is to create a EU/Soviet style North American Union of 10% elites and 90% peasants. You know, all hail globalism...
Our last hope for peace
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#181. To: Arator (#172)
#182. To: FOH (#45)
"It's hard for me to find a rationale for having a 17-clip semiautomatic
#183. To: Jethro Tull (#181)
but I have to say Obama will provide one last gasp of laughter for the politically incorrect like myself.
#184. To: Vitamin Z (#183)
Hopefully they name Richardson to some high level cabinet position just to complete the spectrum.
#185. To: Jethro Tull (#118)
#186. To: christine (#179)
#187. To: HOUNDDAWG (#185)
The sheik of the burning sand
#188. To: Jethro Tull (#187)
#189. To: christine (#0)
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"By voting for any one of them, you support and lend legitimacy to the fraud. Isn't it time we say no and no more?"
#190. To: Esso (#186)
how about we form a "Violence Never Solves Anything Club" and pre- emptively turn in our guns and anything sharp or pointy?
#191. To: Esso (#186)
#192. To: Ferret Mike (#189)
I empathize with your sentiments here Christine; but some people can't just do nothing. Some people just feel compelled to try to do the least worst choice of things to do in a situation like this.
#193. To: christine, Esso (#191)
promise you'll shoot me first before you turn yours in. ;)
#194. To: Ferret Mike (#189)
I empathize with your sentiments here Christine; but some people can't just do nothing.
#195. To: christine (#191)
#196. To: Critter (#193)
#197. To: robin, Pinguinite, *Obama 2008* (#59)
#198. To: Esso (#195)
#199. To: kiki (#194)
#200. To: FOH (#39)
How someone could go from supporting Ron Paul to supporting an establishment candidate defies words. It's only more proof that there aren't that many left here worth fighting for, imo. And yet we kept working...
#201. To: Brian S (#200)
#202. To: christine (#198)
#203. To: christine (#198)
#204. To: Critter (#201)
Anyone that counts RP out at this point needs his head examined. To steal a quote from someone else, he is playing chess while the rest played checkers.
#205. To: HOUNDDAWG (#182)
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#206. To: Brian S (#204)
Tell me how you actually think RP has a chance to become POTUS in 2009?
#207. To: Pinguinite, Brian S (#206)
Tell me how you actually think RP has a chance to become POTUS in 2009?
#208. To: Ferret Mike (#189)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#209. To: Pinguinite, Esso (#190)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#210. To: christine (#191)
promise you'll shoot me first before you turn yours in. ;)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#211. To: christine, Ferret Mike (#192)
while i disagree with the rationale, you succeeded in making me understand it better.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#212. To: Critter, christine, Esso (#193)
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#213. To: kiki (#194)
sometimes doing nothing is the right thing, but it's a very difficult thing to do if you consider yourself an activist. a contradiction, if you will. we each have to sort it out on our own terms. sadly, people with the same ultimate purpose can get all caught up in the details. I hate it when politics messes up friendships.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#214. To: TwentyTwelve (#207)
Conservatives are looking for someone else. McCain is not their guy.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#215. To: FOH (#213)
#216. To: Brian S (#204)
Tell me how you actually think RP has a chance to become POTUS in 2009?
#217. To: Brian S (#200)
Yet Ron Paul steadfastly maintains his GOP affiliation and dismisses a 3rd party run?
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#218. To: FOH (#214)
I predict that a reasonable CP candidate will get 5% just by default...
#219. To: Critter (#201)
Quit crying. He is doing the only thing he can under the circumstances.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
#220. To: X-15 (#215)
We, The People, are better educated and informed about current events and economic trends than the average American of 1929, thanks to the internet. That gives us the advantage of seeing the approaching financial turmoil that could equal the mess of 1929 that ushered in the socialist crap of FDR, except that our government is going to screw us even harder than FDR ever dreamed was possible.
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
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