Title: I have to say, I am very surprised at the number of 4um posters who are considering voting for Obama or any of the Establishment picks.... Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Feb 13, 2008 Author:Christine Post Date:2008-02-13 19:56:40 by christine Keywords:None Views:7549 Comments:359
By voting for any one of them, you support and lend legitimacy to the fraud. Isn't it time we say no and no more?
African immigrants (see illegal alien invaders) usually require a fusillade of 40-some odd shots before they submit to reason. See Amadou Diallo for complete details.
I do see a lesser evil. I could be wrong, but from what I've researched and read I believe he would cause the least amount of harm.
I'm afraid that won't resonate, robin.
We appear to be confronted with a bunch of prone little foot kickers here, who if they can't have things exactly their way, are just going to hold their breath.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
God willing, we've had our last "messianic" President who receives his marching orders directly from the Almighty.
Obama has a different "almighty" he takes orders from along with Hitlery (and they're both equally vile)...and McCain takes orders from gremlins that live in his twisted and sick mind...not much difference as I see it. I will NOT vote for any Establishment fascist candidate. Period. The only moral thing to do is vote third party..
Saying you'll vote for a fascist lesser of two evils because a 3rd party is a wasted vote...your implication....is, and has always been, a fool's folly and an immoral action.
That's as nicely as I can possibly call you an idiot. ooops...
I flew my flag in the distress position during the Clinton administration.
But, my God, then came Booshie.
Same here.
My favorite joke was about the guy who kept calling the White House switchboard and asking for Bill Clinton. The operator became suspicious and notified the secret service who interviewed the man. When asked why he kept calling, he said "I just love to hear her tell me that The Clintons aren't there anymore!"
I never dreamed that I could despise anyone more than the Clintons, but then came BushCo.
African immigrants (see illegal alien invaders) usually require a fusillade of 40-some odd shots before they submit to reason. See Amadou Diallo for complete details.
It was an honest mistake. One can hardly blame the police after Diallo went for his wallet that way....
I dont oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other arm-chair, weekend warriors in this Administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.
Obama and his foreign policy adviser Brzezinski have been against the Iraq war since before its inception. McCain has Kissinger.
Obama attacked Wolfowitz and Perle by name in 2002. I did not see Hillary or Insane McCain do that.
Brzezinski and Obama Barack Obama has been criticized by pro-Israel forces (undoubtedly egged on by the Hillary team) for naming Zbignew Brzezinski, Jimmy Carter's National Security advisor, as one of his foreign policy gurus. Ezra Klein links to, and endorses, a post by one Matthew Duss, relying on a story from the Politico website, suggesting that the "Israel lobby," writ large, and Alan Dershowitz personally, are upset about Brzezinski because he wrote an essay last Summer defending Mearsheimer and Walts Israel Lobby essay.
here's what I'd like to hear on cnn in november....a record number of people voted today but NOBODY voted for president or congress, only for local candidates.
Interesting dream.
I'm sorry you woke up before finding out whether Bush, Boner, McConnell, et al just cleaned out their desks and went home.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
Many believe in either intelligent design or evolution...but I am opting for unintelligent design, where god is a retarded kid who likes setting army men on fire and leaving his toys out in the rain.
"... In conclusion, Ron Paul is the only true contrast in this race. He has a rock solid record of upholding the Constitution that cannot be contested. He does not flip-flop. He is not intimidated or swayed by power or money. And he is offering real world solutions instead of feel good soundbites. Perhaps, most importantly, his supporters know exactly where he stands and why they support him. If America really wants the "change" we hear so much about, Ron Paul is her only hope in '08. "
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
All that has to happen right now is that McPain not get enough delegates to win the nomination outright. Then it becomes a whole new ball game. More of those delegates going to the convention are RP people than most people think.
All that has to happen right now is that McPain not get enough delegates to win the nomination outright
Now we can actually thank Limbaugh for helping by his recent slamming of McPain..let's hope it keeps up. Paul can beat Hitlery/Obama in any race, 2-way or 3-way. But he has to be in the national election to do it...the National Election. We are just debating the best way he could get there. He won't (not can't) run 3rd party or he'd be kicked out of the Rep Party and denied his chance to run for his congressional seat. What's more important to him? IS he making the right decision?
I don't know..but I do know it is "Water the Tree" and "V" time if he doesn't win it. This WILL be the last election if he loses. And THAT my friends is what is at stake here. Don't forget it.
We're all waiting why you think Obamaslama is any different from those you mentioned?
The best I can figure is he's brown, has become a media rock star, and some simply think he needs a chance to be the next JFK, who incidentally lost 3/4s of his head when he tried to buck the system.
As a social whole, we are in a state of governmentally induced hypnosis that has left us incapable of recognizing our own sick state of paralysis. This election cycle is the perfect example. We had maybe 10 potential (CFR) candidates that soon became 3 and easily could have become just 1 ... then what would be the purpose of your vote ? Is it possible that the slew of candidates could simply determine among themselves who will be President and by dropping out leave us to choose from 1 final contestant. Hahahahaha ... it makes voting so much simpler but really, ya gotta be shitting me.
outstanding post!
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
The way I see it, it's a choice between having a mafia don in your neighborhood whose goons will break both of your kneecaps (Clinton or McCain) versus a mafia don whose goons will break only one (Obama). Are both examples mafia dons with armed thugs? Yes, but there's still a difference between the two - I'd rather have one broken kneecap than two.
Obama will wreck this country, no question about it. If you name a bad social or fiscal policy, he's all for it. But I still think that McCain is a lot more likely to start a nuclear war than Obama. That doesn't mean I'd ever actually vote for Obama in the general election (I'll probably do my usual third party protest vote), but I'd rather see him than McCain in the WH for this reason alone.
You Sir, are a gentleman, a scholar and a man that knows corrupt politics.
Thank you kindly. I have studied it/them long enough I suppose. And anyone who thinks that any of the current crop running for President, with the exception of Ron Paul, are worth voting for haven't been paying attention.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
Thank you kindly. I have studied it/them long enough I suppose. And anyone who thinks that any of the current crop running for President, with the exception of Ron Paul, are worth voting for haven't been paying attention.
I always approached politics with a cynical attitude thus my name.
With that in mind, I always was against the incumbents. My theory was that they had done enough harm, stolen enough, thus needed to get a job and earn a honest living like other Americans. It did not matter as to party, friend or foe, out you go, let someone else steal for a change.
I even ran my own nephew out of a country office once for corruption, equal opportunity enemy, I was.
I am hoping that Bush just cancels the elections and stays in office. Then nobody has to vote and Bush could pardon Larry Craig.
Imagine my shock and chagrin to see a Bushbot on here. I thought you confined your infant wisdumb to Fraud Repugnant and did a drive by on LP once in a while.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The GOP must die -- hard and with a vengence. So go, Obama, go!
Yeah, that makes all kinds of sense. 'Cause establishment clown B is just SO MUCH BETTER than his ideological twin, establishment clown A. uh huh. Good thinking.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
I think that's the fake Trace who posts here highlighting the ridiculousness of the freetard Trace. I could be wrong.
Well, that could be. If it is just someone pointing out the freeptard Trace's insanity I guess that's a good thing. Anyone know where Badeye After Five is? I understand Badeye used to post here under that name when he got off "work," or escaped from the library or whatever it was.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
Saying you'll vote for a fascist lesser of two evils because a 3rd party is a wasted vote...your implication....is, and has always been, a fool's folly and an immoral action.
For the life of me I can't figure out what you and the myriad cynics here who have totally given up on the political system are doing on a political discussion forum.
Shouldn't you all be in dank basement rooms building bombs and schemes? Or, are you just chronic bitchers?
What a joy you must be to live with. I'd tell you to get a dog, but I love dogs too much.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
For the life of me I can't figure out what you and the myriad cynics here who have totally given up on the political system are doing on a political discussion forum.
It's called free speech, and I wouldn't call what you discuss politics. I'd put it in the realm of fantasy. Come Nov. you will be ruled by either Hillary or Obama. That's the deal so please stop bitching.