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Title: I have to say, I am very surprised at the number of 4um posters who are considering voting for Obama or any of the Establishment picks....
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Published: Feb 13, 2008
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2008-02-13 19:56:40 by christine
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By voting for any one of them, you support and lend legitimacy to the fraud. Isn't it time we say no and no more?

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I second it. Dead on accurate.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-14   12:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you both.

noone222  posted on  2008-02-14   13:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The way I see it, it's a choice between having a mafia don in your neighborhood whose goons will break both of your kneecaps (Clinton or McCain) versus a mafia don whose goons will break only one (Obama). Are both examples mafia dons with armed thugs? Yes, but there's still a difference between the two - I'd rather have one broken kneecap than two.

Obama will wreck this country, no question about it. If you name a bad social or fiscal policy, he's all for it. But I still think that McCain is a lot more likely to start a nuclear war than Obama. That doesn't mean I'd ever actually vote for Obama in the general election (I'll probably do my usual third party protest vote), but I'd rather see him than McCain in the WH for this reason alone.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-02-14   14:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You Sir, are a gentleman, a scholar and a man that knows corrupt politics.

Thank you kindly. I have studied it/them long enough I suppose. And anyone who thinks that any of the current crop running for President, with the exception of Ron Paul, are worth voting for haven't been paying attention.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-02-14   15:15:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thank you kindly. I have studied it/them long enough I suppose. And anyone who thinks that any of the current crop running for President, with the exception of Ron Paul, are worth voting for haven't been paying attention.

I always approached politics with a cynical attitude thus my name.

With that in mind, I always was against the incumbents. My theory was that they had done enough harm, stolen enough, thus needed to get a job and earn a honest living like other Americans. It did not matter as to party, friend or foe, out you go, let someone else steal for a change.

I even ran my own nephew out of a country office once for corruption, equal opportunity enemy, I was.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-14   15:23:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The silver tongued racist can come personally for my 30-round clips...if he'd like.

And when he comes give the dumb sob all your ammo, one bullet at a time.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-02-14   16:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am hoping that Bush just cancels the elections and stays in office. Then nobody has to vote and Bush could pardon Larry Craig.

Imagine my shock and chagrin to see a Bushbot on here. I thought you confined your infant wisdumb to Fraud Repugnant and did a drive by on LP once in a while.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-02-14   16:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think that's the fake Trace who posts here highlighting the ridiculousness of the freetard Trace. I could be wrong.

We demand our United States Constitution be restored.

angle  posted on  2008-02-14   17:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The GOP must die -- hard and with a vengence. So go, Obama, go!

Yeah, that makes all kinds of sense. 'Cause establishment clown B is just SO MUCH BETTER than his ideological twin, establishment clown A. uh huh. Good thinking.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-02-14   17:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I think that's the fake Trace who posts here highlighting the ridiculousness of the freetard Trace. I could be wrong.

Well, that could be. If it is just someone pointing out the freeptard Trace's insanity I guess that's a good thing. Anyone know where Badeye After Five is? I understand Badeye used to post here under that name when he got off "work," or escaped from the library or whatever it was.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-02-14   17:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Saying you'll vote for a fascist lesser of two evils because a 3rd party is a wasted vote...your implication....is, and has always been, a fool's folly and an immoral action.

For the life of me I can't figure out what you and the myriad cynics here who have totally given up on the political system are doing on a political discussion forum.

Shouldn't you all be in dank basement rooms building bombs and schemes? Or, are you just chronic bitchers?

What a joy you must be to live with. I'd tell you to get a dog, but I love dogs too much.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   17:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Who's confronting you?

Surely you jest.

Go vote Obama, then.

I did ..... yesterday.

Did I strike you as one who doesn't put his money where his mouth is?

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   17:44:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

For the life of me I can't figure out what you and the myriad cynics here who have totally given up on the political system are doing on a political discussion forum.

It's called free speech, and I wouldn't call what you discuss politics. I'd put it in the realm of fantasy. Come Nov. you will be ruled by either Hillary or Obama. That's the deal so please stop bitching.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-02-14   17:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I never dreamed that I could despise anyone more than the Clintons, but then came BushCo.

God bless you brother.

This forum has become an insane asylum. The joy of a sane man encountering another in such a place is indescribable.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   17:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

This forum has become an insane asylum.

Hey, us fruitcakes get it right once in awhile.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-14   17:50:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Badeye after five was the spoof badeye as well.

We demand our United States Constitution be restored.

angle  posted on  2008-02-14   17:55:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Did I strike you as one who doesn't put his money where his mouth is?

No. Just wonder what all your hoopla's about if you're voting Obama. No worries, right? He's certainly no conservative or libertarian or constitutionalist, so he's not losing any votes from the RP crowd, now is he?

We demand our United States Constitution be restored.

angle  posted on  2008-02-14   17:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

We're all waiting why you'd ever vote for him, as opposed to a good man running third party, or even a Ron Paul write in?

It ain't brain surgery Tex.

It's, briefly, because Obama is infinitely superior than enduring another day of the Clintons in the White House.

Your other meaningful choice is four or more years of the lunatic that finished fifth or so from the bottom of his Annapolis class and became an inarguable hero in Viet Nam despite his cumulative record.

John Sidney McCain III is known among many of his Vietnam flight buddies as "Ace" McCain. This title has not been bestowed upon McCain because he destroyed five enemy aircraft. On the contrary: It was five on our side -- in fact, five of his own, beginning with his first one at Pensacola during training.

So you go ahead and let one of these two slip into the White House thanks to yours and the other "protest votes".

Your a sad excuse for an American voter.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   18:08:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The way I see it, it's a choice between having a mafia don in your neighborhood whose goons will break both of your kneecaps (Clinton or McCain) versus a mafia don whose goons will break only one (Obama). Are both examples mafia dons with armed thugs? Yes, but there's still a difference between the two - I'd rather have one broken kneecap than two.

you help to make my point which is we have no choice. they are selected for us. if obama is the anointed one, you can bet it's because the PTB know he will figurehead the furtherance of their globalist anti-america/american agenda. obama is CFR. what more do we need to know. a vote for him or any d or r candidate only reinforces acceptance and belief in the hoax by us. i don't want any part of that.

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-14   18:12:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

All of the annointed candidates are CFR/NWO approved.

However, there are two different factions fighting over who gets to rule in the New World Order. On one side is the globalist "left" who want to abolish national sovereignty and make the UN the seat of power. These are people like Obama, Jimmy Carter, Brezinski, etc.

The other NWO faction is the Zionist camp - people like Bush, Bolton, Wolfowitz, and McCain. They want the seat of power to be in Tel Aviv instead of the UN.

Both factions spell the end of sovereignty, I just think that the Zionist camp is the bloodier of the two.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-02-14   18:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Badeye after five was the spoof badeye as well.

yeah. shhhhhhhhhh, I already knew that, was just taking a dig at the blind one.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-02-14   18:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your a sad excuse for an American voter.

i so beg to differ. read my post to Rupert, iconoclast. Indie feels the same as do. does our point of view not make sense to you?

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-14   18:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Come Nov. you will be ruled by either Hillary or Obama. That's the deal so please stop bitching.

Yeah, and I've made my choice ... Obama ... wasn't at all tough, and I'm acting on it.

The rest of you are bitchin ... and intend to stay home, lodge a useless protest vote, or shoot somebody.

You may chalk it up to free speech but do you surround yourself with negative, do nothing bitchers? Or, is that why you retreat to here?

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   18:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

ok, that makes sense.

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-14   18:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

God bless you brother.

This forum has become an insane asylum. The joy of a sane man encountering another in such a place is indescribable.

Please don't embrace me while attacking the forum.

It comes off as manipulative and slippery and causes me to question your purpose for being here.

Regarding JT's views, there is ample evidence that he is absolutely correct in his apparently cynical view of politics.

In fact I seldom find myself disagreeing with him because I know that nothing is as it appears and he is probably right.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-02-14   18:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No. Just wonder what all your hoopla's about if you're voting Obama. No worries, right? He's certainly no conservative or libertarian or constitutionalist, so he's not losing any votes from the RP crowd, now is he?

I owe you all a small clarification I guess.

My sentiments, and they are intense, are aimed at those of you who are yet to cast your primary vote.

McCain is unstoppable in the the Stupid Party.

Hitlery still has a realistic shot at being on the Dim ticket.

If this is prospect is okey dokey with you, then sleep well.

If you sit 'n bitchers are comfortable with the prospect then just ignore me. Then it will become the first election I've ever sat out .... there will be NO lesser of two evils.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   18:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i so beg to differ. read my post to Rupert, iconoclast. Indie feels the same as do.

I read yours.

Now you read mine. ;-)

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   18:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My sentiments, and they are intense, are aimed at those of you who are yet to cast your primary vote.

I'm voting FOR Ron Paul on March 4, 2008. Not Obama. Not Hitlery. Not "Insane" McCain. Why?? Because he is the only man running for President who is brave enough to break with all of the bad policies that have almost ruined this nation. You voted for Obama and that's your right. But if you vote for Obama this November and that sorry bastard becomes President we'll all remember you voted for him, iconoclast. And we'll exercise OUR RIGHT (with christine's permission) to excoriate you in the public arena called freedom4um. Fair enough?

"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck

X-15  posted on  2008-02-14   18:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Please don't embrace me while attacking the forum.

Sorry I mis-read you.

I guess I win the conclusion jumping contest for the night.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   18:58:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

But if you vote for Obama this November and that sorry bastard becomes President we'll all remember you voted for him, iconoclast.

Sorry, I didn't get which of the other inevitable candidates you're hoping for .... Hitlery or McInsane?

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   19:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Then it will become the first election I've ever sat out .... there will be NO lesser of two evils.

there ya go. ;)

The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly

christine  posted on  2008-02-14   19:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm voting FOR Ron Paul on March 4, 2008.

Well, perhaps that will be therapeutic for your petulant hurt feelings but how does it prevent prevent a McCain Clinton face off in November?

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   19:10:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm not voting for any of the three stooges. If I can't write-in Ron Paul this November, I'm not voting for President.

"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck

X-15  posted on  2008-02-14   19:11:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well, perhaps that will be therapeutic for your petulant hurt feelings but how does it prevent prevent a McCain Clinton face off in November?

I can always hope for an Act of God to strike down one of the defilers of the Constitution.

"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck

X-15  posted on  2008-02-14   19:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm not voting for any of the three stooges.

Bravo little feller.

You've undoubtedly moved mountains during your lifetime.

It must have gotten mighty tiresome carrying your ball home though.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   19:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Not trying to be obtuse, but what could possibly prevent you from voting for Dr Paul as a write-in? I doubt any such effort would result in a Ron Paul presidency, but it is nonetheless a simple way to serve notice.

I've never done a write-in before, but that's my plan for now, largely depending on who the Libertarians or Constitutional Parties run.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-02-14   19:17:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I can always hope for an Act of God to strike down one of the defilers of the Constitution.

I will be waiting with bated breath for multiple thunderclaps.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   19:18:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Then it will become the first election I've ever sat out .... there will be NO lesser of two evils.

there ya go. ;)

I think you fouled off my point, Hon. ;-)

It's a McCain/Clinton match up that will totally discourage my participation.

Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-14   19:23:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Both factions spell the end of sovereignty, I just think that the Zionist camp is the bloodier of the two.

I was thinking about making bland interjection about subfactions until I read that, but then remembered what a large chunk of the Democratic Party is consumed by foriegn passions as well.

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-02-14   19:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

McCain is unstoppable in the the Stupid Party

Thank you sir may I have another?

"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2008-02-14   19:25:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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