Title: I have to say, I am very surprised at the number of 4um posters who are considering voting for Obama or any of the Establishment picks.... Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:Feb 13, 2008 Author:Christine Post Date:2008-02-13 19:56:40 by christine Keywords:None Views:8018 Comments:359
By voting for any one of them, you support and lend legitimacy to the fraud. Isn't it time we say no and no more?
I think that's the fake Trace who posts here highlighting the ridiculousness of the freetard Trace. I could be wrong.
Well, that could be. If it is just someone pointing out the freeptard Trace's insanity I guess that's a good thing. Anyone know where Badeye After Five is? I understand Badeye used to post here under that name when he got off "work," or escaped from the library or whatever it was.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
Saying you'll vote for a fascist lesser of two evils because a 3rd party is a wasted vote...your implication....is, and has always been, a fool's folly and an immoral action.
For the life of me I can't figure out what you and the myriad cynics here who have totally given up on the political system are doing on a political discussion forum.
Shouldn't you all be in dank basement rooms building bombs and schemes? Or, are you just chronic bitchers?
What a joy you must be to live with. I'd tell you to get a dog, but I love dogs too much.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
For the life of me I can't figure out what you and the myriad cynics here who have totally given up on the political system are doing on a political discussion forum.
It's called free speech, and I wouldn't call what you discuss politics. I'd put it in the realm of fantasy. Come Nov. you will be ruled by either Hillary or Obama. That's the deal so please stop bitching.
Did I strike you as one who doesn't put his money where his mouth is?
No. Just wonder what all your hoopla's about if you're voting Obama. No worries, right? He's certainly no conservative or libertarian or constitutionalist, so he's not losing any votes from the RP crowd, now is he?
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
We're all waiting why you'd ever vote for him, as opposed to a good man running third party, or even a Ron Paul write in?
It ain't brain surgery Tex.
It's, briefly, because Obama is infinitely superior than enduring another day of the Clintons in the White House.
Your other meaningful choice is four or more years of the lunatic that finished fifth or so from the bottom of his Annapolis class and became an inarguable hero in Viet Nam despite his cumulative record.
John Sidney McCain III is known among many of his Vietnam flight buddies as "Ace" McCain. This title has not been bestowed upon McCain because he destroyed five enemy aircraft. On the contrary: It was five on our side -- in fact, five of his own, beginning with his first one at Pensacola during training.
So you go ahead and let one of these two slip into the White House thanks to yours and the other "protest votes".
Your a sad excuse for an American voter.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
The way I see it, it's a choice between having a mafia don in your neighborhood whose goons will break both of your kneecaps (Clinton or McCain) versus a mafia don whose goons will break only one (Obama). Are both examples mafia dons with armed thugs? Yes, but there's still a difference between the two - I'd rather have one broken kneecap than two.
you help to make my point which is we have no choice. they are selected for us. if obama is the anointed one, you can bet it's because the PTB know he will figurehead the furtherance of their globalist anti-america/american agenda. obama is CFR. what more do we need to know. a vote for him or any d or r candidate only reinforces acceptance and belief in the hoax by us. i don't want any part of that.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
All of the annointed candidates are CFR/NWO approved.
However, there are two different factions fighting over who gets to rule in the New World Order. On one side is the globalist "left" who want to abolish national sovereignty and make the UN the seat of power. These are people like Obama, Jimmy Carter, Brezinski, etc.
The other NWO faction is the Zionist camp - people like Bush, Bolton, Wolfowitz, and McCain. They want the seat of power to be in Tel Aviv instead of the UN.
Both factions spell the end of sovereignty, I just think that the Zionist camp is the bloodier of the two.
No. Just wonder what all your hoopla's about if you're voting Obama. No worries, right? He's certainly no conservative or libertarian or constitutionalist, so he's not losing any votes from the RP crowd, now is he?
I owe you all a small clarification I guess.
My sentiments, and they are intense, are aimed at those of you who are yet to cast your primary vote.
McCain is unstoppable in the the Stupid Party.
Hitlery still has a realistic shot at being on the Dim ticket.
If this is prospect is okey dokey with you, then sleep well.
If you sit 'n bitchers are comfortable with the prospect then just ignore me. Then it will become the first election I've ever sat out .... there will be NO lesser of two evils.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
My sentiments, and they are intense, are aimed at those of you who are yet to cast your primary vote.
I'm voting FOR Ron Paul on March 4, 2008. Not Obama. Not Hitlery. Not "Insane" McCain. Why?? Because he is the only man running for President who is brave enough to break with all of the bad policies that have almost ruined this nation. You voted for Obama and that's your right. But if you vote for Obama this November and that sorry bastard becomes President we'll all remember you voted for him, iconoclast. And we'll exercise OUR RIGHT (with christine's permission) to excoriate you in the public arena called freedom4um. Fair enough?
"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck
Not trying to be obtuse, but what could possibly prevent you from voting for Dr Paul as a write-in? I doubt any such effort would result in a Ron Paul presidency, but it is nonetheless a simple way to serve notice.
I've never done a write-in before, but that's my plan for now, largely depending on who the Libertarians or Constitutional Parties run.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
Both factions spell the end of sovereignty, I just think that the Zionist camp is the bloodier of the two.
I was thinking about making bland interjection about subfactions until I read that, but then remembered what a large chunk of the Democratic Party is consumed by foriegn passions as well.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
I'm assuming that we'll be allowed to write in a candidate this election cycle. Seeing how the primary process has panned out, I wouldn't be surprised if our ballot comes out with only two choices.
"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck
I've never done a write-in vote, as attested by revision of my previous post (my mind wanders, lol), but I think it's a damned fine idea. I'll schedule a week off work, rent a lawnchair, and sit there and watch them count them all.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
I believe he will do his best to get us out of Iraq and cease perpetual war, unlike McCain.
As is your right. I was actually impressed with Obama's threat to attack Pakistan, he might be fun.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
Obama is bought and paid for is my opinion. I derive no pleasure from that, it actually hurts if I think too hard about it, but I've seen him kowtow to AIPAC one too many times, which is one with me.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
As is your right. I was actually impressed with Obama's threat to attack Pakistan, he might be fun.
I know where you're coming from ... I was frothing at the mouth for that at the point where the Decider cut and ran from there to begin the nutty invasion of Iraq.
Alas, I fear that train may have left the station on that option (though there is bit of fun-thought still titillating me too).
One good thing (maybe the only one) has come out of the Iraq tragedy for me. That is that I have come to think that, if left to their own devices, the Arabs may very well erase these Jihad nuts from their own turbulent midst. As predictable, Bush has taken credit for the put down of al qaeda west of Baghdad but that was the due to the efforts of Sunni sheiks.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
And which 3rd, 4th, or 5th party did/do you want him to run under? Even the Constitution Party from what I read the other day is not yet, but is hopeful, of being on all 50 state ballots.
You do realize, of course, that the makes the nut just that much harder if, for instance, he would do as you are bidding him to do, and whatever party you chose was not on all 50 states--say, they're only on 45 states? What then? You just made the job a hell of a lot harder. What if those 5 missing states were something like Californicate, Florida, or NY with their large # of electoral votes?
And speaking of electoral votes.......how does each state select their electors? It is based on who wins each individual state's race, or based on the state's party in power, or ???
And say, for the sake of argument....there was no one reaching the magic # of electoral votes required to win.......then it goes to the House, does it not? And do you honestly believe that a house run by demoncraps would select anyone but a fellow traveler to become president?
I'm just throwing out some 'what ifs'.....don't know or much care whether they are fact or fiction.....no one seems to care that Ron Paul never vowed he'd run on a 3rd party ticket.
Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.