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Title: I have to say, I am very surprised at the number of 4um posters who are considering voting for Obama or any of the Establishment picks....
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Published: Feb 13, 2008
Author: Christine
Post Date: 2008-02-13 19:56:40 by christine
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By voting for any one of them, you support and lend legitimacy to the fraud. Isn't it time we say no and no more?
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#307. To: Dakmar (#297)
That was my plan too until I gave the McCain Clinton face off some serious thought.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
Obama is bought and paid for is my opinion. I derive no pleasure from that, it actually hurts if I think too hard about it, but I've seen him kowtow to AIPAC one too many times, which is one with me.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
i got it. i was teasing you.
I know where you're coming from ... I was frothing at the mouth for that at the point where the Decider cut and ran from there to begin the nutty invasion of Iraq. Alas, I fear that train may have left the station on that option (though there is bit of fun-thought still titillating me too). One good thing (maybe the only one) has come out of the Iraq tragedy for me. That is that I have come to think that, if left to their own devices, the Arabs may very well erase these Jihad nuts from their own turbulent midst. As predictable, Bush has taken credit for the put down of al qaeda west of Baghdad but that was the due to the efforts of Sunni sheiks.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
And which 3rd, 4th, or 5th party did/do you want him to run under? Even the Constitution Party from what I read the other day is not yet, but is hopeful, of being on all 50 state ballots. You do realize, of course, that the makes the nut just that much harder if, for instance, he would do as you are bidding him to do, and whatever party you chose was not on all 50 states--say, they're only on 45 states? What then? You just made the job a hell of a lot harder. What if those 5 missing states were something like Californicate, Florida, or NY with their large # of electoral votes? And speaking of electoral votes.......how does each state select their electors? It is based on who wins each individual state's race, or based on the state's party in power, or ??? And say, for the sake of argument....there was no one reaching the magic # of electoral votes required to win.......then it goes to the House, does it not? And do you honestly believe that a house run by demoncraps would select anyone but a fellow traveler to become president? I'm just throwing out some 'what ifs'.....don't know or much care whether they are fact or fiction.....no one seems to care that Ron Paul never vowed he'd run on a 3rd party ticket.
Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.
Damnit, I was promised 5th party slot. I was planning to extort Confection and Tobacco Workers Union to buy giant black light posters.
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
I have read his speech to AIPAC and found it unsatisfactory on a couple of points, but hardly the ass-kissing sort of thing we have come to expect from Bush.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
I believe he will do his best to get us out of Iraq and cease perpetual war, unlike McCain. I believe he will heal and not divide with pandering and partisan hate like Hillary. People with values have a keener sense of the worth they place upon their vote. When the choices amount to NO CHOICE only those without that sense of worth would even waste their time. Iconoclast, you obviously fit in the "without worth" category. And, if you truly believe the crap quoted above ... I've got a bridge ...
What is it about him that suggests he'd be any less of the same poison I humbly refer you to #304. what assurance can you offer that your vote will be counted? You devil you, have you somehow located the box in which I placed my ballot? ;-)
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
People with values have a keener sense of the worth they place upon their vote. A highfalutin way to say you've chosen to make yours pointless and worthless. I've got a bridge Honey, you don't even have a clue.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
And I sir, humbly refer to you as The Duped One, not to be mistaken in any way with the great Jackie Gleason.
Now there's a role model. :)
"Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can't mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has." - William S Burroughs
Your beliefs about Obama are just and only that. Beliefs, not guarantees. 'Your' protest vote, if you will. Bush sounded good too, after Clinton, or don't you remember?
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
And to whom would that throw the election .... Hitlery or McInsane? More bluster .... to what end? The time for fun, frolic, and folly is over but I'll be glad to take a seat next to you and debate all the way to the Ron Paul march on D.C. Right now the we are upon the decision of who will oppose McCain and Hillary is woozy but not out.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
Your beliefs about Obama are just and only that. Actually no, considerable hope too. Beliefs, not guarantees. Is this your first time voting, or when did you ever get a guarantee? On second thought, maybe I could give you some guarantees on Mac and Hill.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
when? I must have missed that. he got an obvious free pass from the media, but I can't remember a moment when he seemed like anything other than a moron.
Actually I never held a positive thought about the smug little faux cowboy from Andover, but SC choices were expected and I (foolishly?) based my vote entirely on that fact. And, then of course, the Dumbocrats selected the wooden headed Algore to head their ticket. And I fear they will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory once more and hand the nomination to Hitlery, the only one on earth that that halfwit McC would stand a chance against. That's why they need some help from thoughtful Republicans and Independents in these next crucial primaries.
Republicans (Democrats for that matter) ....... HAD ENOUGH?
Bush was the main reason I quit the GOP party, back in 1999. I suspect he's been a barf-inducing entity since the day after he was born.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
In 2000 when so many people were duped by him, he almost won the election.
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
lol! *almost* being the operative word
Perhaps if you believe that I would enjoy the rancor of a site like Freeperville where people viciously ass bite each other. I'm just not up for that. If this place goes in that direction then I won't take a superior tone about it, but, I won't post here anymore. Different viewpoints do not automatically justify belittling insults to others, in my view. And, I despise that superior Freeper tone and their unfortunate habit of trying to convert people through humiliation.
You said this ??? How about "Is this your first time voting, or when did you ever get the truth ?
OKIE......you've got the 5th party ticket. Whatcha wanna call yer party, Dak....it's your choice?
Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.
Truth takes a battering in politics, but never in history such a mauling as was given to it by the Bush administration. Imo, Clinton and McCain carry his "legacy" forward. They epitomize "same ole, same ole".
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
Krauthammer has a column in today's Washington Post attacking Obama. People who fall for his kind of lies are the duped ones.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
HERE: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- dyn/content/article/2008/02/14/AR2008021403105.html?hpid=opinionsbox1 Krauthammer may be correct, but I thought the piece was lacking in substantiation of his opinion. And I'm no McHillabama fan.
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
The super-Zionists don't like Obama. Hence columns like Krauthammer's.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Obama's rallying the black vote, according to the headlines.
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
Vote for Obamba? Not a freaking chance! If Ron Paul isn't on the ticket, I stay home. Simple as that.
What was done to Colin Powell will be done to Mr. Oh-Bomb-Us, it's an orderly transformation from gentleman to step-n-fetchit.
That never gives him pause. He's not a journalist, he's an evil little Zionist propagandist.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
Any inclination that I would have to vote Obama in November would be contingent on certain things. One, that Hillary is NOT on the ticket or anywhere near his proposed administration. Two, that IF it's looking to be a VERY close election in California where I live. I will not stand for either McHitler or Staliny as prez. Obama otoh, might mitigate the damage done overseas and maybe even buy the country a couple more years. It's selfish, but I am not personally ready for the inevitable collapse/disruption of the country, even though in the long run it will be a good thing. Don't look at this as any kind of decision on my part to vote for Obama. I have no illusions about him saving the country. That was Ron Paul's prescription, and maybe someone will remember it. In all likelihood I will vote 3rd party (once again), and if the 3rd parties were smart they'd unite around a strong anti-war (and preferably pro-Constitution) candidate for president. It DOESN'T have to be Ron Paul, but it should be someone.
i'm wondering why it is people think that if you look at who he's chosen for his advisors. hear not his words, look at his actions.
Two wings of the same bird. Vote all you want, the flight plan doesn't change.
Obama was manufactured right in front of our eyes, and people see nothing.
I haven't voted Democrat/Republican since 1994. I vote, when I bother to vote at all, third party. Voting third party is the only possible non-violent solution. The Democrats control the Senate with the help of third party support (Lieberman, from the Likud Party & Bernie Sanders, socialist, give the Dems the votes they need) and an America-first third party could do the same and have an immediate impact with just a few successful candidates. The problem is conservatives these days are all a bunch of pussies terrified of their own shadows so they're just not willing to take the risk of turning what's left of the country over to the liberals. Or the liberals with a D behind their names, they're quite content to give it to the R liberals. Getting back to conservative cowardice, take for example the fact that they're always yapping about ending our dependence on foreign oil (which is imo partly Jewish driven because they'd like to limit our contacts with the Arab world, and which, also imo, is foolish because it looks like oil is going to be an essential commodity far into the future so why not use everybody else's oil first), yet in spite of worrying about foreign oil many conservatives always want to drive the biggest gas guzzlers they can find because they're terrified of getting into accidents in small cars. Wusses. And for God's sake don't mention Islamofascists, that sends them into a sobbing, thumb-sucking fetal position. Gotta stop them there terrists, even if we have to elect an effing maniac like John McCain. Baloney, 9/11, even if you accept the official version, was caused as much by Bush admin. incompetence and stupidity as it was by terrorist power and organization. If the terrorists were such an organized threat they'd be using our exposed southern flank to hit us every ten days, instead of every ten years, but it's hard to get that point across to some wimp who's running around in circles and screaming at the top of his lungs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------BWS - Bush Worship Syndrome; a mental disorder that causes Iraq had WMDs and Saddam did 9/11 troofers to worship Bush no matter how much damage he does to conservatism, to the GOP, to the English language, or to the country. Rush "the doper" Limbaugh and Sean "the dope" Hannity are two examples of extreme cases.
And, many of the same peepul who wouldn't dream of voting for a Yale Bonesman don't understand that Obama is a product of Cook County, Ill. Do you know what that means? It's the US county where there is always a chronic shortage of small, brown paper bags. It's where mobsters, the CIA and banksters meet to launder money from questionable sources, and it can either be rinsed and come up as sweet smelling suitcase cash (with a fresh Spring flower scent, ready to be passed to a US Senator, border or DEA agent) or, it can be run through the mercantile exchange and show up as soybean profits or some other windfall that is then clean enough to deposit and pay token taxes on so it can be used for multi million dollar homes, boats, planes etc., for those whose toys cost more than the average nickel dime, cash-as-you-go operator.
Yep - well said. As dirty as it gets up there.
Join the Ron Paul Revolution Thank you Sir.
As we know, it's dirtier than dirt everywhere; but some places are over-the-top, Marion Barry, and worse dirty. Stay locked & loaded safe.
Join the Ron Paul Revolution Stay locked & loaded safe. Roger that and thank you again. My six is covered and my powder's dry.
you got it long before i did.
Two wings of the same bird. Vote all you want, the flight plan doesn't change.
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#308. To: iconoclast (#307)
#309. To: iconoclast (#299)
#310. To: Dakmar (#306)
As is your right. I was actually impressed with Obama's threat to attack Pakistan, he might be fun.
#311. To: FOH (#221)
#312. To: rowdee (#311)
#313. To: Dakmar (#308)
Obama is bought and paid for is my opinion. I derive no pleasure from that, it actually hurts if I think too hard about it, but I've seen him kowtow to AIPAC one too many times, which is one with me.
#314. To: iconoclast (#304)
I believe Obama will not lie like Bush.
#315. To: Jethro Tull (#302)
#316. To: noone222 (#314)
#317. To: iconoclast (#315)
I humbly refer you to #304.
#318. To: iconoclast (#313)
I have read his speech to AIPAC and found it unsatisfactory on a couple of points, but hardly the ass-kissing sort of thing we have come to expect from Bush.
#319. To: iconoclast (#279)
you go ahead and let one of these two slip into the White House thanks to yours and the other "protest votes".
#320. To: FOH (#221)
I'm convinced that Ron starts off a 3-way race against any of those quislings with double digits just in protest. Maybe starts off with 15% of more, prompting others to get in.
#321. To: angle (#319)
#322. To: angle (#319)
Bush sounded good too
#323. To: angle (#319)
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Bush sounded good too, after Clinton, or don't you remember?
#324. To: angle (#319)
Bush sounded good too, after Clinton, or don't you remember?
#325. To: kiki (#322)
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when? I must have missed that. he got an obvious free pass from the media, but I can't remember a moment when he seemed like anything other than a moron.
#326. To: angle (#325)
In 2000 when so many people were duped by him, he almost won the election.
#327. To: iconoclast (#290)
I guess I win the conclusion jumping contest for the night.
#328. To: iconoclast (#321)
Is this your first time voting, or when did you ever get a guarantee?
#329. To: Dakmar (#312)
#330. To: noone222 (#328)
How about "Is this your first time voting, or when did you ever get the truth ?
#331. To: Jethro Tull (#317)
And I sir, humbly refer to you as The Duped One,
#332. To: aristeides (#331)
Krauthammer has a column in today's Washington Post attacking Obama.
"...Obama has an astonishingly empty paper trail. He's going around issuing promissory notes on the future that he can't possibly redeem. Promises to heal the world with negotiations with the likes of Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Promises to transcend the conundrums of entitlement reform that require real and painful trade-offs and that have eluded solution for a generation. Promises to fund his other promises by a rapid withdrawal from an unpopular war -- with the hope, I suppose, that the (presumed) resulting increase in American prestige would compensate for the chaos to follow..."
#333. To: angle (#332)
#334. To: aristeides (#333)
#335. To: christine (#0)
I have to say, I am very surprised at the number of 4um posters who are considering voting for Obama or any of the Establishment picks....
#336. To: angle (#332)
#337. To: angle (#332)
Krauthammer may be correct, but I thought the piece was lacking in substantiation of his opinion.
#338. To: christine (#0)
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From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#339. To: PnbC, All (#338)
Obama otoh, might mitigate the damage done overseas and maybe even buy the country a couple more years.
#340. To: christine (#339)
i'm wondering why it is people think that if you look at who he's chosen for his advisors. hear not his words, look at his actions.
#341. To: christine (#0)
I have to say, I am very surprised at the number of 4um posters who are considering voting for Obama or any of the Establishment picks....
#342. To: Cynicom, _______, christine, Jethro Tull, robin, rowdee, lodwick, Yertle Turtle (#340)
Obama was manufactured right in front of our eyes, and people see nothing.
#343. To: HOUNDDAWG (#342)
Freedom*Peace*Prosperity
#344. To: lodwick (#343)
#345. To: HOUNDDAWG (#344)
Freedom*Peace*Prosperity
#346. To: lodwick (#345)
As we know, it's dirtier than dirt everywhere; but some places are over-the-top, Marion Barry, and worse dirty.
#347. To: Rich (#341)
I haven't voted Democrat/Republican since 1994.
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