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Title: McCain refuses to pander
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The Washington Times
URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps ... 20080214/NATION/437382070/1001
Published: Feb 14, 2008
Author: Stephen Dinan
Post Date: 2008-02-14 09:06:43 by robin
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Article published Feb 14, 2008 McCain refuses to pander February 14, 2008 By Stephen Dinan - John McCain's campaign manager yesterday said the candidate will not pander for conservative support, even as his surrogates have made a second overture to see why chief competitor Mike Huckabee has not dropped out of the Republican presidential race. Former Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating, a McCain supporter, called former Arkansas Sen. Tim Hutchinson on Friday to inquire why Mr. Huckabee was still running. That was in addition to last week's call to Mr. Huckabee from Texas Gov. Rick Perry, another McCain supporter, asking him to drop out of the race. "Frank and I are old friends, good friends. He called and said: What's Governor Huckabee thinking, what's he want to do, why's he still in the race?" Mr. Hutchinson said. He said Mr. Keating did not ask for Mr. Huckabee to drop out of the race — something the Huckabee campaign says the Texas governor did. "Frank did not do that. Frank was asking more along the lines of: John wants to know, what's the governor thinking, what's his goal in this, does he have a different agenda," Mr. Hutchinson said. "They would like to have Governor Huckabee out but they are being very careful not to unnecessarily antagonize." In both cases, Mr. Huckabee's answer why he's still in was simple, according to Mr. Hutchinson and other campaign sources familiar with the calls: "To win." A spokeswoman for Mr. Perry said he wouldn't discuss the call. Mr. Keating's office at the American Council of Life Insurers, where he now works, said he was traveling and couldn't return a phone call. Mr. Huckabee told reporters he is in the race until someone reaches the 1,191 delegates needed to secure the nomination, and says voters deserve to have a choice on the ballot. Mr. McCain has a nearly insurmountable lead in the race for the Republican nomination, but Mr. Huckabee's repeated strong performances among conservative voters — on Tuesday he won a majority of self-identified conservatives in Virginia's primary, though Mr. McCain won a plurality in Maryland —is a theme the press has focused on. And it is a theme Mr. McCain would like to end. But Rick Davis, Mr. McCain's campaign manager, told reporters at a luncheon hosted by the Christian Science Monitor yesterday that Mr. McCain is happy to have Mr. Huckabee in the race. "Governor Huckabee's campaign, although we believe rather unnecessary in the process of winning delegates, is perfectly fine with us," he said, adding that having a contested nomination earns them needed press attention. He also disputed the sentiment from some conservatives that Mr. McCain needs to make a specific gesture to conservatives, such as selecting a vice-presidential nominee they can be excited about, to win their support. Instead, Mr. Davis said the important move is conservatives joining the McCain campaign, including defense, economic and social conservatives. "Every single thread of the Republican blanket has covered John McCain," he said. "The grand gesture I think is really being made on the part of conservatives to John McCain, saying, we believe that you would make a good president and are willing to put our political capital to your disposal." He said Mr. McCain's reception at the Conservative Political Action Conference, and endorsements from high-profile names such as former Solicitor General Theodore B. Olson, prove that. Mr. McCain didn't use the word "conservative" in his victory address in Alexandria on Tuesday night, but he did send out an e-mail ad through Human Events, the conservative weekly newspaper, titled "We must unite as a party," pleading for financial support. "I cannot succeed in this endeavor without the support of dedicated conservatives like you. And today, I write to ask for your support," he wrote. Mr. McCain yesterday held a closed-door meeting with House Republicans to consolidate his support and begin unifying the party's elected leaders behind him. Even though many of those Republicans have fought Mr. McCain bitterly on immigration, campaign finance reform and other issues, Mr. Davis said the meeting was so congenial it was "almost like a rally." Mr. Davis was asked about the difference in enthusiasm between Republicans and Sen. Barack Obama, who draws giant crowds to his rallies and had thousands attend his victory speech in Wisconsin on Tuesday night after he swept the Maryland, Virginia and District primaries. Mr. Davis said there's plenty of room to undercut Mr. Obama's support by pointing out information such as his ranking by National Journal as the most liberal senator in 2007. "I don't know if all 17,000 of those people who were in his audience last night know that — but they will," he said. "I promise you, by the end of this campaign, you know, that will be right there on your refrigerator, under one of those magnets."
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#1. To: Cynicom (#0)
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Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! "Frank and I are old friends, good friends. He called and said: What's Governor Huckabee thinking, what's he want to do, why's he still in the race?" Mr. Hutchinson said. He said Mr. Keating did not ask for Mr. Huckabee to drop out of the race — something the Huckabee campaign says the Texas governor did. After reading this, one has to wonder if Ron Paul may have gotten a few ring-a-lings from members of the system. Something sure persuaded him to see the light in a hurry, and kneel down in total allegiance to the "republican party". Ron Paul was a dire threat to McCain, Huck is just a nagging distraction.
Wrong.
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
I usually am wrong. I thought that from day one Huck was just another preacher man looking for a new or better Church. Paul on the other hand held a powerful hand in that with a third party run, McCain or whoever would be dead meat out of the gate. Sure do appreciate you trying to straighten my errant ways. I still say it is logical that if they brought in heavy hitters to dislodge Huck, just MAYBE someone whispered sweet nothings in Pauls ear?????
I find it odd or it may be just a coincidence but I have not gotten a request for money from Paul since the enlightening email. Just maybe someone up there has seen another light?
McCain will be crushed in a landslide by who ever the DEM selected to run is.
Mark If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
I think the pub party is in need of a takeover.
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
In the absence of anything that says otherwise, I'm going to continue to view RP as a principled man who has consistently walked his talk. And in the absence of anyone else who has (not) stepped up to the plate, I'm gonna keep my bird in the hand. You can continue your "oh woe is you" banter and "paul is a turncoat" mutterings, but they way I see it, he's the best we have and your warnings, although duly noted, are not productive given the little time we have to effect this movement.
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
You can continue your "oh woe is you" banter and "paul is a turncoat" mutterings, angle... Nowhere do I find this lowly person saying anything untoward concerning Pauls character. And I do try not to mutter. It is irritating habit of old people. I do find it interesting that a major news service does in fact quote people high in the republican system as having made phone calls trying to force Huck to the sidelines. Perhaps you would grant me that much? Is it not logical those same people would try to sideline Paul in some like manner??? Especially since Paul had much more clout than Huck. I am open to your opinions as to why my trying to be logical is a miscariage.
It ain't personal but shove it. This "movement" has turned into nothing more than a bowel movement now since Paul has refused to take his Full House and play it in the big tournament by going Independent. With a good VP like Keyes, etc he would have crushed the D and R in a 3 way race in the general election. He blew it..absolutely blew it..and placed party over country...why I do not know... Yes it is productive to talk about because it's the damned truth.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Agreed. Therein lies the unknown factor. It is now out in the open that the system is trying to crush Huck, he admits it, others are quoted as doing it. How anyone can question that is beyond me. Huck is going nowhere but is a hindrance to McCain in that he has to share the limelight. Paul on the other hand was McCains worst nightmare, but he folded and went quietly into the night.
Agreed. Therein lies the unknown factor. It is now out in the open that the system is trying to crush Huck, he admits it, others are quoted as doing it. Yep. The more I think about it, the more I like the thought I had the other day, that the Diebold machines have trouble doing "their job" with more than two candidates.
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! In post #4, you're intimating he "MAYBE" took a fall. Cynicom posted We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
Yes it is productive to talk about because it's the damned truth. I don't know how many posts I've read which indicate that Paul COULD NOT participate in a third party run due to his running in a republican primary. The bane of the two party systems So, where is the productivity in beating that dead horse and where's another candidate, Sorry, but Keyes ain't the man for me. Paul's here, now and honest and principled. The third party option didn't exist in many states once he ran as a pub in the primaries. Do you understand this? Who do you got instead? Tick, tick, tick.
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
I think this is what I posted and for a reason. Paul has sworn republican allegiance, he wrote that part, yet there is nothing about him being sweet talked to by anyone. No published threats, nothing. Just all of a sudden a presidential run is of no importance, but his House seat is???? I found that odd. Huck seems to have had sweet nothings in his ear and refused, so out came the heavy hitters, including Pauls own governor. I find that odd also. Paul goes silently into the night, whistling as he goes.
that would put a wrinkle in their shirt, maybe.
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
Wrong again. You find it "odd" that he makes desicions with which you don't agree, you accuse him of untoward acquiescence to "whisperings" and then you deny impugning his character. Get your story straight. Say what you mean. Either you think he's a turncoat or he's still a principled man with a difficult mission. Which is it? Spare me the old man, brokenhearted crap and spit it out so we can move on. Please.
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
You seem to be confused on what the Pied Piper has had to say. His email, under his name, stands all by itself. It is difficult to refute his own words, his own decisions. He decided to leave us at the alter.(PS, he left whistling with some of my money)
So he left you at the altar. How about this...he proposed and you didn't show up. Only a fool rushes headlong into a battle for which his forces are not prepared. Paul's retreat is a sign of intelligence and preservation of his forces, IMO. You offer no alternatives...only despair. Got anything better to offer?
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
Show me the LAWS. BTW, I believe the below quote from an independent ron paul website clarifies the reason why he will not run 3rd party: Texas has the "LBJ" law which allows anyone to run for congress and President at the same time. This is what Dr. Paul is doing and he cannot run as a third party candidate for President while running as a Republican for congress, the Texas Republican party would toss him out
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx Well, I am sulking a bit cause some of that was my beer money. Alternatives??? Several but one main one. Paul step aside and let someone else take the reins. I would vote for the devil himself third party if he were to espouse the message that Paul carries. I want a CHOICE and you are willing to deny me that. Totally shameful.
MSNBC had a news headline this morning that McCain was "frustrated" by Huckabee still running. Talk about a coronation-complex.....
"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck
Well, duh. Ron is NOT IN THE WAY OF ANY 3RD, 4TH, OR 5TH PARTY CANDIDATE....remember--your bitch is that he is staying Republocrap!!! Furthermore, if someone else was presenting his message, he'd no doubt be endorsing them! Your problem is there is no one else saying anything about it.....that is, that has caught any sort of attention on a national basis. Guess he could just go off somewhere and cut his throat and let all those are bursting at the seams, whether republocrap, 3rd, 4th, or 5th party types have their go at it. Where's all the Libertarians who spout this same stuff? How about the Constitutionalists? Maybe the American Independents (if there is such)? Perhaps the Communist Party USA? Where are all of these people just chomping at the bit but that are being stopped by this 70 something year old geezer down Texas way? Sheesh...........this is unfrigginbelievable.
Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.
Do your own research. I've read it numerous times on many different sites, enough to accept it as fact. You don't have. If you prove this wrong, you can thereby satisfy yourself that Ron Paul has thrown the game. I don't think that.
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
Webster says no such word, you made it up, did'nt you...
Many states have "sore loser" laws to block people who ran D or R in primaries from running 3d party in the general election: rangevoting.org/BallAccess.html On another thread, someobody mentioned Pennsylvania and some additional states having similar laws to keep 3d party "spoilers" off the ballot. The game is rigged against 3d parties - the mass media won't cover them, and many states try to keep them off the ballots. If you thought Paul was invisible as a Republican, wait until you see the blackout of the Libertarian or Constitution Party candidates.
Well, not exactly.......I claim usership, but alas, not authorship.
Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.
I am just up from my afternoon nap so am in good humor, for awhile, til angle shows up. We olde people have to have frequent naps or we get cranky.
Oh, don't bother any of the naysayers with little factoids or details about election/campaign laws. You can preach about it til you're blue in the face and they move on to another bitch/complaint without acknowledging their ignorance on the matter, or thanking you for setting them straight. They aren't about to actually research anything themselves. And heaven forbid, they should listen to the bastids in congress who have these committees where this sort of crap is discussed, or at state conventions by the parties to figure out how in the world they make this crap up, submit it to the states, when appropriate, to have it set in state law. The ol "D" and the ol "R" can be in collusion on everything else, it seems, in their minds, except doing everything in their power to make sure that only a D or an R ever gets elected to bigtime 'important' jobs.
Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.
Yup.....I've not quite reached the afternoon napper stage, but gawd, sometimes I think it might work. :)
Turn your back on the sun andyou only see the shadows.
Actually I am beyond that stage, I take a nap before bedtime, so I wont be tired. Three naps a day keeps me from being cranky on the 4um.
Romney suspended his campaign for the GOP nomination last week during a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington, after McCain came out of the Super Tuesday contests with a huge lead in the delegate count — but Romney did not offer an immediate endorsement. Romney’s backing Thursday could help McCain lock up the nomination faster than initially expected. Romney plans to say he’s encouraging his more than 280 delegates to back the Arizona senator." Please note, all REPUBLICANS HAVE NOW FALLEN ALL THEIR SWORDS EXCEPT HUCKELBERRY FUDD.
I'm thinking about voting for gene amondson of the temperance party, but I'd have to get drunk to do it.
Not allowed. Someone from WCTU will around to see you tomorrow.
Cyni, This goes to the point of why would anyone with an active brain cell would choose to be/and or remain, a Republican. I despise these country club, blue blood frauds.
John McCain doesn't pander to anyone. Why should he? He feels his destiny is to bring about a nuclear war that will exterminate humanity, or failing that return civilization to the stone age.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
Agree... I spent a lot of hours digging around concerning McCain. Also being ex military, I came to despise the man for many reasons.
I spent some time in the military too. The victory of the US in World War Two corrupted the Officer Corp and transformed jerks like McCain into dangerous, power-mad politicians
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
I have a neighbor, ex Commander Walter Eugene Wilber, the Navy sorely wanted to court martial the man but to do so they would have had to try McCain, so they both skated. Some time google Wilber, lot to learn about him and it paralells McCain.
Except AIPAC.
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I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#2. To: robin (#1)
Former Oklahoma Gov. Frank Keating, a McCain supporter, called former Arkansas Sen. Tim Hutchinson on Friday to inquire why Mr. Huckabee was still running. That was in addition to last week's call to Mr. Huckabee from Texas Gov. Rick Perry, another McCain supporter, asking him to drop out of the race.
#3. To: Cynicom (#2)
one has to wonder if Ron Paul may have gotten a few ring-a-lings from members of the system. Something sure persuaded him to see the light in a hurry, and kneel down in total allegiance to the "republican party".
#4. To: angleJethro tull, robin (#3)
Wrong.
#5. To: robin (#0)
#6. To: robin (#0)
#7. To: Kamala (#6)
McCain will be crushed in a landslide by who ever the DEM selected to run is.
#8. To: Cynicom (#4)
#9. To: angle (#8)
In the absence of anything that says otherwise, I'm going to continue to view RP as a principled man
#10. To: angle, cynicom, jethro tull, christine (#8)
(Edited)
You can continue your "oh woe is you" banter and "paul is a turncoat" mutterings, but they way I see it, he's the best we have and your warnings, although duly noted, are not productive given the little time we have to effect this movement.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#11. To: IndieTX, angle, Jethro Tull, robin, christine (#10)
Paul has refused to take his Full House and play it in the big tournament by going Independent.
#12. To: Cynicom (#11)
Paul has refused to take his Full House and play it in the big tournament by going Independent.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#13. To: Cynicom (#9)
Nowhere do I find this lowly person saying anything untoward concerning Pauls character.
I still say it is logical that if they brought in heavy hitters to dislodge Huck, just MAYBE someone whispered sweet nothings in Pauls ear?????
#14. To: IndieTX (#10)
This "movement" has turned into nothing more than a bowel movement now since Paul has refused to take his Full House and play it in the big tournament by going Independent. With a good VP like Keyes, etc he would have crushed the D and R in a 3 way race in the general election. He blew it..absolutely blew it..and placed party over country...why I do not know...
#15. To: angleJethro Tull, robin, IndieTX (#13)
just MAYBE someone whispered sweet nothings in Pauls ear?????
#16. To: robin (#12)
the Diebold machines have trouble doing "their job" with more than two candidates.
#17. To: Cynicom (#15)
Paul goes silently into the night, whistling as he goes.
#18. To: angle (#17)
Paul goes silently into the night, whistling as he goes.
#19. To: Cynicom (#18)
Either you think he's a turncoat or he's still a principled man with a difficult mission. Which is it?
#20. To: angle (#14)
(Edited)
posts I've read which indicate that Paul COULD NOT participate in a third party run due to his running in a republican primary.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#21. To: angle (#19)
You offer no alternatives...only despair. Got anything better to offer?
#22. To: robin (#0)
#23. To: Cynicom (#21)
Several but one main one. Paul step aside and let someone else take the reins.
#24. To: IndieTX (#20)
Show me the LAWS.
#25. To: rowdee (#23)
this is unfrigginbelievable.
#26. To: IndieTX (#20)
(Edited)
#27. To: Cynicom (#25)
#28. To: rowdee (#27)
#29. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#26)
#30. To: Cynicom (#28)
#31. To: rowdee (#30)
#32. To: rowdee, angle, Jethro tull, robin, christine (#30)
"Mitt Romney plans to endorse John McCain for president Thursday afternoon.
#33. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#26)
Many states have "sore loser" laws to block people who ran D or R in primaries from running 3d party in the general election:
#34. To: kiki (#33)
but I'd have to get drunk to do it.
#35. To: Cynicom (#32)
#36. To: Cynicom (#32)
#37. To: Zoroaster (#36)
#38. To: Cynicom (#37)
#39. To: Zoroaster (#38)
#40. To: Zoroaster (#36)
John McCain doesn't pander to anyone.
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