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Title: The First Muslim-Born Leader of the West (Obama)
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The Brussels Journal
URL Source: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2965
Published: Feb 13, 2008
Author: Thomas Landen
Post Date: 2008-02-14 15:16:07 by X-15
Keywords: None
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If I had been asked two months ago “Which Western country runs the greatest risk of electing a Muslim-born leader and how soon do you think this is going to happen?” I would have bet on the Netherlands somewhere in the next decade. Today, it looks as if the first Western country with a Muslim-born leader might very well be the United States next year, when President Barack Hussein Obama enters the Oval Office. The Europeans do not mind being surpassed. Obamania has struck Western Europe. Two weeks ago, in an attempt to explain Europe’s enthusiasm for Mr. Obama, the left wing German weekly Der Spiegel pointed out that the Illinois senator is the most “European” of all the candidates in the U.S. presidential race. “Many in Europe would like nothing more than a ‘European’ America […] Obama personifies Europe’s hopes for a modern America: black, socially minded and gentle,” the German magazine wrote. As if Europe is black, socially minded and gentle… Last week, Algemeen Dagblad, a newspaper in the Netherlands, asked the 150 members of the Dutch House of Representatives how they would vote in the U.S. elections if they could. Mr. Obama got 58 votes, Mrs. Clinton 40, while a mere 23 Dutch parliamentarians – fewer than those who said they had no opinion – would vote Republican. There is little doubt that if Europe were to decide the American elections the next POTUS would be Barack Hussein Obama. In November we will know whether letting Americans decide their own future makes any difference. The Europeans hope it does not. Europe is preparing itself for a Muslim take-over. Last year, an influential French Catholic archbishop told the American Catholic scholar Richard John Neuhaus that in the not-so-distant future Europe will be an Islamic continent. “We are preparing ourselves for soft Islamization,” the French archbishop said. Last week, the archbishop of Canterbury, the head of the Church of England, advocated the adoption of certain aspects of Islamic Sharia law in the British legal system. His remarks caused indignation from people who do not seem to realize that several Sharia courts already sit across England, Scotland and other Western countries. Perhaps Mr. Obama strikes the Europeans as the “most European candidate” because he was born a Muslim. If America can have a Muslim-born leader, why not Europe, many Europeans will ask. They know that the latter is “unavoidable” (to use the archbishop of Canterbury’s words). In America, Mr. Obama’s Muslim family background (unlike Mr. Romney’s Mormonism) is a non-issue because he attends a Christian church. Nevertheless, being born from a Muslim father, raised by a Muslim stepfather, having been enrolled at school (in Indonesia) as a Muslim and having attended Friday prayers at the local mosque as a young boy, he cannot be seen by Muslims as anything but a Muslim, especially because he has never explicitly rejected the faith of his fathers nor said anything negative about it. The day Barack Hussein Obama comes to the White House many Muslims, also in Europe, will see it as a vindication of recent announcements by radical Islamists that the green flag of Allah will soon fly over the White House, Buckingham Palace, the Vatican and the other “fortresses of the West.” Since perception is often more powerful than reality the importance of an Obama presidency cannot be underestimated. The American political establishment, including the Republicans, are very naive about the Islamic threat to Europe. Rather than working against the Islamization of Europe American policies tend to hasten the process. America is an ally of Saudi Arabia – a dictatorship which funds the most extremist Islamic organizations. America pushes for the independence of Kosovo, which will establish an Islamist regime in the heart of Europe. America wants the European Union to accept Turkey as a member state. If Mr. Obama proceeds with these policies (as he is likely to do) and withdraws from Iraq, thereby indicating that America has lost the war, the radical Islamists in Europe will become even more arrogant than they are today. Obviously, America is not to blame for Europe’s present predicament. The demographic and religious vacuum in Europe, which is being filled by Muslim immigrants and by Islam, is entirely of Europe’s own making. The Europeans – and they alone, not the Americans and not even the Muslims, who were welcomed to Europe – are to blame for the Islamization of the old continent. The irony, however, is that America does not seem to draw lessons from Europe’s predicament. The specter of Islam is haunting the world. The Europeans, who lack America’s fighting spirit, are trying to appease their enemy and are hoping for “soft Islamization.” America, sadly, does not even seem to have noticed that there is a problem. It called Mr. Romney to account for his Mormonism but has yet to ask Mr. Obama for his views on Islam.
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#31. To: X-15 (#0)
Cool. The election's over, then. Thank God.
My station in life bothers you??? Why is that. Get thee in your place, white trash. That sounds a lot like ghost. I like you ghost, you are a good man and a fellow American, I appreciate that. Sometimes I do irritate you and it shows. Just trying to find a good side to you. hehehehehehehe
It is NOT racism for a black man to vote for a black man because of his color. This is correct. Isn't it marvelous remembering the words of MLK - one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character and knowing then that it was all bullshit?
that was funny.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
Having lived in several of the cesspools (cities) of this country, it was a hard lesson to learn that those that cry racism and bigotry are guilty of that themselves. Buying into the goody two shoes social behavior taught by the institutions of higher learning is apparent in many people. My own daughter came out of a major university throughly convinced that she was guilty of all sorts of gross behavior, because she was white.
The republican campaign is over. All have fallen on their swords, except Huck. Everyone is now one happy family and America is stuck with John McCain. So much for primaries to select the best man.
You looking in a mirror ghost???
They have to get in line behind the Vietnamese to rape and slaughter our white women.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Cynicom: To answer your question, the people in the cradle of civilization were three major cultural zones that are distinguished within the early Near-Eastern chalcolithic period: the Halafian of Syria and northern Mesopotamia; the Ghassulian of Palestine; and the Hacilar of Anatolia. All three predated the rise to power of Egypt, which was not Black, by several hundred years. -- Source: The Penguin Atlas of Ancient History by Colin McEvedy RO
You're right. That is exactly what David Duke espouses. What would happen if David Duke tried to run for president? He surely wouldn't get the Obama Rock Star treatment. Somethin' ain't right about that.
What is the difference between Obama's church and David Duke's philosophy? This is not a trick question, so I look forward to your responses, gentlemen.
The only difference bet. Obama and David Duke is that Obama is the beneficiary of a dual standard of justice, one that is supported by the folks you pinged. And to answer your question, DD would be run off the debate stage and into banishment. PS: Don't expect an answer from either of these guys. Those dipped in PC are unable to debate this inequity, so they choose to ignore it when directly confronted.
If blacks had never existed, the world would not have noticed it. For all practical purposes, they've contributed nothing good. Obama is not a Muslim, not a Christian. He's an agnostic.
If you do not know who you are, you are maimed.- Jimmy Cantrell
Snopes calls your claims about Obama's church a false "urban legend".
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
The politically correct people are those who believe the claims of that super- Zionist e-mail attacking Obama for his church ties that led to Richard Cohen's column attacking Obama in January. Apparently these lies are being repeated by sources like Hannity and Newsmax. You fall for that kind of stuff? And I see Krauthammer is joining the attack on Obama today. The Audacity of Selling Hope. No surprise there.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
It would be more appropriately posted at FR.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
My oldest son and I were musing over this just yesterday.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
Perhaps ... sorta like Lincoln?
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
We are a congregation which is Unashamedly White and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the White religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are a White people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization – Northern Europe. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a White worship service and ministries which address the White Community.
I don't know who you mean by "we," but, whoever that is, it appears to be a bunch that is falling for the lies of the Zionists, and of their fellow travellers, like Hannity. Figures. The Zionists are racists, too.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Stay focused, boy. Below is the mission statement of your LATEST political saviours (where oh where is Dennis Kucinich?) church, altered - changing BLACK TO WHITE and NORTHERN EUROPE from AFRICA. Now, the question on the table is simple; why would the statement below be unacceptable to YOU PC NAZIs, but be perfectly acceptable to leftist stormtroopers when the original is used by a black such as Obama? We are a congregation which is Unashamedly White and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the White religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are a White people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization – Northern Europe. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a White worship service and ministries which address the White Community.
Snopes gave an answer. #44.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Typical non-answer I've come to expect from the politically warm and fuzzy. Thanks for the confirmation, tho.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
The relevance of the question goes to the double standard Blacks in America enjoy. Obama in this case. Do you deny a double standard exists?
ping to Snopes link
Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today! The Revolution will not be televised! You can also look at the Wikipedia entry for Rev. Jeremiah Wright for confirmation that the charges are spurious. Interesting, though, that the charges involve claims of anti-Semitism because of some pretty shaky guilt-by-assocation connections with Farrakhan. The Zionists again.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
You continue to squirm around like Linda Blair sprinkled w/Holy Water. Stop referring me elsewhere and answer the question with your thoughts. All I did was change out WHITE for BLACK on Obama's church's mission statement, and you can't tell me why that would then eliminate a WHITE candidate. This is a simple, direct question.
I reckon neither Christians nor Muslims support infanticide, so you're right.
Obama's campaign itself refutes any idea that he might be anti-white. The attempts to associate him with Farrakhan have been ridiculously tenuous. I have no idea what Obama's church may believe. If it's racist, I see no reason to believe Obama believes that part of its tenets. If Obama is a racist, why don't you dig up a quote showing that HE is a racist?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Why would this statement if used by a WHITE candidate, ruin his career?
As far as I know, no CANDIDATE made any such statement.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Obama is a member of a church that espouses those sentiments in reverse. Why is that OK for a BLACK but not for a WHITE?
If Obama is a racist, why don't you dig up a quote showing that HE is a racist?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
He can't be a racist, after all he's Black. The question is about the double standard he enjoys and how a white candidate would indeed be called a racist if the mission statement were reversed.
That's curious, because I could've sworn that a few weeks ago Snopes said it was true. Looks like they've switched around some of the verbage and played around with the semantics and are now calling it false. But the Mission Statement comes straight from the church's website. Obama has said he is a member there, so I don't see the issue. It's his church. I personally don't care what church he attends or even if they are a black power denomination. Be black. Be loud. Be proud. Good on you. But the hypocrisy is what is alarming. Again, if David Duke tried to run for President, his candidacy would be destroyed by the media before it even left the starting line. Obama's candidacy is propped up and encouraged by the media. In fact, I've never seen a politician receive such positive media coverage.
I can't even tell you how many times I've run into people in the past few months who dislike Ron Paul because "Oh, he's racist, right?" The only thing they know about Ron Paul from the media is that "he wrote some racist newsletters or something," like that automatically disqualifies him, even though we all know that he did not write or even know about the controversial comments.
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#32. To: ghostdogtxn (#29)
#33. To: Cynicom (#30)
It is racism and bigotry for a white man to vote against a black man because of his color.
#34. To: swarthyguy (#31)
Cool. The election's over, then. Thank God.
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#33)
#36. To: christine (#34)
#37. To: ghostdogtxn (#20)
I can see the family resemblance now..
#38. To: ghostdogtxn (#19)
The dreadful muslim apocalypse that is about to descend on us all. Not sure how they're gonna get here, of course, but that technical stuff isn't important...
#39. To: Cynicom (#7)
And who or what were the people in the cradle of civilization??????
#40. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
We are a congregation which is Unashamedly White and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the White religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are a White people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization – Northern Europe. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a White worship service and ministries which address the White Community.
#41. To: aristeides, ghostdogtxn (#11)
#42. To: Vitamin Z (#40)
#43. To: ghostdogtxn (#3)
Because white people don't come from Africa, and Europe wasn't the cradle of civilization, and white people weren't kept as slaves here?
#44. To: Vitamin Z (#41)
#45. To: Jethro Tull (#42)
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#46. To: aristeides, X-15 (#11)
Whoever wrote this seems to approve of the Bush administration's agendas of fear and hate.
#47. To: ghostdogtxn (#12)
I don't understand this fixation with race. I don't think most of my generation does.
#48. To: YertleTurtle (#43)
Obama is not a Muslim, not a Christian. He's an agnostic.
#49. To: aristeides, Vitimin Z, Obama's Dupes (#45)
Stay focused, boy. Below is the mission statement of your LATEST political saviours (where oh where is Dennis Kucinich?) church, altered - changing BLACK TO WHITE and NORTHERN EUROPE from AFRICA. Now, the question on the table is simple; why would the statement below be unacceptable to YOU PC NAZIs, but be perfectly acceptable to leftist stormtroopers when the original is used by a black such as Obama?
#50. To: Jethro Tull (#49)
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#51. To: aristeides (#50)
#52. To: Jethro Tull (#51)
#53. To: aristeides (#52)
#54. To: Cynicom (#32)
#55. To: Cynicom (#37)
#56. To: tom007 (#38)
#57. To: Vitamin Z (#41)
#58. To: YertleTurtle (#43)
#59. To: ghostdogtxn, Vitimin Z (#57)
#60. To: Brian S, Elliott Jackalope (#44)
Snopes calls your claims about Obama's church a false "urban legend".
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.-T Jefferson
#61. To: Jethro Tull (#53)
#62. To: aristeides (#61)
#63. To: YertleTurtle (#43)
Obama is not a Muslim, not a Christian. He's an agnostic.
#64. To: Jethro Tull (#62)
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#65. To: aristeides (#64)
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We are a congregation which is Unashamedly White and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the White religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are a White people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization – Northern Europe. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a White worship service and ministries which address the White Community.
#66. To: Jethro Tull (#65)
Why would this statement if used by a WHITE candidate, ruin his career?
#67. To: aristeides (#66)
#68. To: Jethro Tull (#67)
#69. To: aristeides (#68)
#70. To: aristeides (#44)
Snopes calls your claims about Obama's church a false "urban legend".
#71. To: Jethro Tull, aristeides (#69)
He can't be a racist, after all he's Black. The question is about the double standard he enjoys and how a white candidate would indeed be called a racist if the mission statement were reversed.
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