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Title: The First Muslim-Born Leader of the West (Obama)
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The Brussels Journal
URL Source: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2965
Published: Feb 13, 2008
Author: Thomas Landen
Post Date: 2008-02-14 15:16:07 by X-15
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If I had been asked two months ago “Which Western country runs the greatest risk of electing a Muslim-born leader and how soon do you think this is going to happen?” I would have bet on the Netherlands somewhere in the next decade. Today, it looks as if the first Western country with a Muslim-born leader might very well be the United States next year, when President Barack Hussein Obama enters the Oval Office. The Europeans do not mind being surpassed. Obamania has struck Western Europe. Two weeks ago, in an attempt to explain Europe’s enthusiasm for Mr. Obama, the left wing German weekly Der Spiegel pointed out that the Illinois senator is the most “European” of all the candidates in the U.S. presidential race. “Many in Europe would like nothing more than a ‘European’ America […] Obama personifies Europe’s hopes for a modern America: black, socially minded and gentle,” the German magazine wrote. As if Europe is black, socially minded and gentle… Last week, Algemeen Dagblad, a newspaper in the Netherlands, asked the 150 members of the Dutch House of Representatives how they would vote in the U.S. elections if they could. Mr. Obama got 58 votes, Mrs. Clinton 40, while a mere 23 Dutch parliamentarians – fewer than those who said they had no opinion – would vote Republican. There is little doubt that if Europe were to decide the American elections the next POTUS would be Barack Hussein Obama. In November we will know whether letting Americans decide their own future makes any difference. The Europeans hope it does not. Europe is preparing itself for a Muslim take-over. Last year, an influential French Catholic archbishop told the American Catholic scholar Richard John Neuhaus that in the not-so-distant future Europe will be an Islamic continent. “We are preparing ourselves for soft Islamization,” the French archbishop said. Last week, the archbishop of Canterbury, the head of the Church of England, advocated the adoption of certain aspects of Islamic Sharia law in the British legal system. His remarks caused indignation from people who do not seem to realize that several Sharia courts already sit across England, Scotland and other Western countries. Perhaps Mr. Obama strikes the Europeans as the “most European candidate” because he was born a Muslim. If America can have a Muslim-born leader, why not Europe, many Europeans will ask. They know that the latter is “unavoidable” (to use the archbishop of Canterbury’s words). In America, Mr. Obama’s Muslim family background (unlike Mr. Romney’s Mormonism) is a non-issue because he attends a Christian church. Nevertheless, being born from a Muslim father, raised by a Muslim stepfather, having been enrolled at school (in Indonesia) as a Muslim and having attended Friday prayers at the local mosque as a young boy, he cannot be seen by Muslims as anything but a Muslim, especially because he has never explicitly rejected the faith of his fathers nor said anything negative about it. The day Barack Hussein Obama comes to the White House many Muslims, also in Europe, will see it as a vindication of recent announcements by radical Islamists that the green flag of Allah will soon fly over the White House, Buckingham Palace, the Vatican and the other “fortresses of the West.” Since perception is often more powerful than reality the importance of an Obama presidency cannot be underestimated. The American political establishment, including the Republicans, are very naive about the Islamic threat to Europe. Rather than working against the Islamization of Europe American policies tend to hasten the process. America is an ally of Saudi Arabia – a dictatorship which funds the most extremist Islamic organizations. America pushes for the independence of Kosovo, which will establish an Islamist regime in the heart of Europe. America wants the European Union to accept Turkey as a member state. If Mr. Obama proceeds with these policies (as he is likely to do) and withdraws from Iraq, thereby indicating that America has lost the war, the radical Islamists in Europe will become even more arrogant than they are today. Obviously, America is not to blame for Europe’s present predicament. The demographic and religious vacuum in Europe, which is being filled by Muslim immigrants and by Islam, is entirely of Europe’s own making. The Europeans – and they alone, not the Americans and not even the Muslims, who were welcomed to Europe – are to blame for the Islamization of the old continent. The irony, however, is that America does not seem to draw lessons from Europe’s predicament. The specter of Islam is haunting the world. The Europeans, who lack America’s fighting spirit, are trying to appease their enemy and are hoping for “soft Islamization.” America, sadly, does not even seem to have noticed that there is a problem. It called Mr. Romney to account for his Mormonism but has yet to ask Mr. Obama for his views on Islam.
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#10. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#9)
Right on brother.
Whoever wrote this seems to approve of the Bush administration's agendas of fear and hate.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Thanks a lot. You left out red neck, cracker and hill billy. And dont forget we are all cuzins, lay it on us good.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Well now, if you research the Middle East, you will INDEED find it was the white man at the cradle of civilization. Not the colored races. They were come latlies that slaughtered the the whites so they had to retreat.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
We are a congregation which is Unashamedly White and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the White religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are a White people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization – Northern Europe. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a White worship service and ministries which address the White Community.
I take offense at your characterization of those that do not fit your own personal station in our social structure. Not a problem however, just now I understand where you are coming from. Some of the upper social strata even throw in "inbred idiots", those are code words for cuzins dont you know. We do serve a purpose though, if it were not for us, who would you look down upon?
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Colorblindness would be all wonderful if everyone were colorblind, I'd be all for it. In reality, though, blacks, Mexicans, and other minorities are extremely ethnocentric, but they demand that everyone else not be. That's like a warmongering dictator demanding that all other countries become pacifists, or a gun-toting criminal demanding that everyone in town disarm.
Trust Obama on Israel From: Jerusalem Post Date: February 4, 2008 Author: MARTIN PERETZ Jerusalem Post 02-04-2008 Headline: Trust Obama on Israel Byline: MARTIN PERETZ Edition; Daily Section: Opinion Page: 13 Monday, February 4, 2008 -- Florida, of course, was a different story, but back in Iowa there was no need for Barack Obama or any other candidate to worry about the Jewish vote. There are 7,000 Jews in the entire state, including 100 hassidim, who work a kosher meat-packing plant in Pottsville. Yet speaking in Des Moines on December 18, Obama cut to the essence of the Middle East problem at a level of sophistication that ought to be a relief, if not a rebuke, to those who fret about his lack of foreign policy "experience." Obama raised three questions and answered them in a way that no other Democratic aspirant for the nomination has done. First: Is Israel truly ready to make the concessions necessary to guarantee that a Palestinian state will be more than a "Potemkin village" - a facade without depth or substance? "I'm confident," Obama said, "that Israel is ready and willing to make some of these concessions if they have the confidence that the Palestinians can enforce an agreement." This is exactly right. And it is a sign that President Obama would not pressure only one side (Israel) because the other side (the Palestinians) are immune to American pressure. On his way out the door in 2000, President Clinton actually had a map color- coding the Old City of Jerusalem: Israeli sovereignty on this street, Palestinian sovereignty on that, like the delirious maps drawn in London and Paris back in the early 20th century that burden the Middle East and Africa to this day. Clinton coerced Ehud Barak, then prime minister of Israel, to accept his map and make other concessions. He got nothing out of the Palestinians. Yet even the most moderate Palestinians now assume that future discussions will start where Clinton left off. It is good to know that Obama understands why that won't work. THE SECOND question is whether any agreement negotiated with Palestinian leaders can be enforced on the Palestinian people. Most Israelis are ready to make a deal and abide by it. There is no such disposition among Palestinians. Hamas, the party that won the most recent Palestinian elections and that already rules in Gaza, explicitly rejects any deal with Israel. So what do you do? Obama's answer, and the right one: You deal with the official Palestinian leadership, which is willing to deal, but you pressure it to take action on other fronts that will bring the people back from Hamas. We "have to make sure that Abbas and Fayad and those that are controlling the West Bank still actually start delivering something tangible that is benefiting the lives of Palestinians in the West Bank, that they are ridding [their party] Fatah of the corruption that has been endemic, and are put in a stronger position politically so Hamas is not dictating the terms of Palestinian negotiations but the moderates in the Palestinian camp are dictating what the Palestinian people are willing to go along with." Third, is this an opportunity to watch democracy flower in the Middle East, as George W. Bush has dreamed? Well maybe, in 1,000 years or so. Meanwhile, Obama grasps that any accord will require strong leadership and even some "dictating" to the moderates. This is not callous. It is realistic. But only if the Palestinian leadership realizes that "now is the time for them to step out of the ideological blind alley that they've been in for so long." The Israelis have stepped out of their own blind alley of small settlements and lonely outposts planted in densely populated Palestinian areas. Everyone knows how very much actual land Israel will give up so that Palestine can be Palestine. No one yet knows whether the Palestinians are ready to let Israel be Israel. OBAMA'S POINTS, which he has made many times, should reassure anyone who is concerned about what his presidency would mean for the security of Israel. And yet many are not reassured. They are alarmed by emails saying that Obama's middle name is Hussein (true, and so what?), that he is a Muslim and not a Christian (untrue, and so what if it were true?), that he took the oath of office as a senator on the Koran rather than the Bible (utterly untrue and, once again, so what?). All these charges have been aired and negated often enough that anyone interested in hearing the truth about them has heard it. But another charge, circulating on the Internet, has not yet been sufficiently refuted. This is that Obama has advisers on the Middle East who despise Israel. Let's take one example. There are all kinds of spooky rumors that a man named Robert Malley advises Obama on the Middle East. His name comes up mysteriously and intrusively on the Web, like the ads for Viagra. Malley, who has written several deceitful articles in the New York Review of Books, is anti-Israel. No question about it. But Malley is not and has never been Middle East adviser to Barack Obama. Obama's Middle East adviser is Dan Shapiro. Malley did, though, work for Bill Clinton. He was deeply involved in the disastrous diplomacy of 2000. Obama at the time was in the Illinois State Senate. So, yes, this is a piece of experience that Obama lacks.
See, we do serve some purpose. Ghost has someone to look down upon. Thats ok ghost, I know you have a good heart and will always do what is right. Being down on the bottom, a lot of bad things fall upon us, we get use to it and harbor no ill will. Social hate is a luxury for the bottom feeders as we are much too busy trying to survive.
Same here. Double standards, indeed a superior standard for Blacks, is something I can't abide by. That simple exercise I did in Word with Obama's church statement seems to be a bone in the throat of the more kinder and gentler among us. A White politician who attended a White European church would be hounded out of the race. Why this simple fact can't acknowledge is a large part of the problem we're in.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
It is racism and bigotry for a white man to vote against a black man because of his color. It is NOT racism for a black man to vote for a black man because of his color.
Cool. The election's over, then. Thank God.
My station in life bothers you??? Why is that. Get thee in your place, white trash. That sounds a lot like ghost. I like you ghost, you are a good man and a fellow American, I appreciate that. Sometimes I do irritate you and it shows. Just trying to find a good side to you. hehehehehehehe
It is NOT racism for a black man to vote for a black man because of his color. This is correct. Isn't it marvelous remembering the words of MLK - one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character and knowing then that it was all bullshit?
that was funny.
The only solution to this mess is to dig a hole big enough to nudge them all in and cover quickly
Having lived in several of the cesspools (cities) of this country, it was a hard lesson to learn that those that cry racism and bigotry are guilty of that themselves. Buying into the goody two shoes social behavior taught by the institutions of higher learning is apparent in many people. My own daughter came out of a major university throughly convinced that she was guilty of all sorts of gross behavior, because she was white.
The republican campaign is over. All have fallen on their swords, except Huck. Everyone is now one happy family and America is stuck with John McCain. So much for primaries to select the best man.
You looking in a mirror ghost???
They have to get in line behind the Vietnamese to rape and slaughter our white women.
"Satan / Cheney in "08" Cynicom: To answer your question, the people in the cradle of civilization were three major cultural zones that are distinguished within the early Near-Eastern chalcolithic period: the Halafian of Syria and northern Mesopotamia; the Ghassulian of Palestine; and the Hacilar of Anatolia. All three predated the rise to power of Egypt, which was not Black, by several hundred years. -- Source: The Penguin Atlas of Ancient History by Colin McEvedy RO
You're right. That is exactly what David Duke espouses. What would happen if David Duke tried to run for president? He surely wouldn't get the Obama Rock Star treatment. Somethin' ain't right about that.
What is the difference between Obama's church and David Duke's philosophy? This is not a trick question, so I look forward to your responses, gentlemen.
The only difference bet. Obama and David Duke is that Obama is the beneficiary of a dual standard of justice, one that is supported by the folks you pinged. And to answer your question, DD would be run off the debate stage and into banishment. PS: Don't expect an answer from either of these guys. Those dipped in PC are unable to debate this inequity, so they choose to ignore it when directly confronted.
If blacks had never existed, the world would not have noticed it. For all practical purposes, they've contributed nothing good. Obama is not a Muslim, not a Christian. He's an agnostic.
If you do not know who you are, you are maimed.- Jimmy Cantrell
Snopes calls your claims about Obama's church a false "urban legend".
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
The politically correct people are those who believe the claims of that super- Zionist e-mail attacking Obama for his church ties that led to Richard Cohen's column attacking Obama in January. Apparently these lies are being repeated by sources like Hannity and Newsmax. You fall for that kind of stuff? And I see Krauthammer is joining the attack on Obama today. The Audacity of Selling Hope. No surprise there.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
It would be more appropriately posted at FR.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
My oldest son and I were musing over this just yesterday.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
Perhaps ... sorta like Lincoln?
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
We are a congregation which is Unashamedly White and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the White religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are a White people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization – Northern Europe. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a White worship service and ministries which address the White Community.
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#11. To: ghostdogtxn (#1)
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#6)
#13. To: Cynicom (#7)
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
#15. To: ghostdogtxn (#12)
while a fried squirrel-eating snake handling backwoods Baptist is still in the race?
#16. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#9)
#17. To: Cynicom (#15)
#18. To: ghostdogtxn (#13)
Damifino. Damifino.
#19. To: aristeides (#11)
#20. To: Cynicom (#18)
#21. To: ghostdogtxn (#12)
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If the St Paddy's Day parade had a mission statement like the one below, March 17th would be just another day on the calender. And I'm not so sure your self proclaimed color blindness is the blessing you think it is. I think it's more that you've been conditioned to swallow shit, while being told it's sugar.
#22. To: ghostdogtxn (#17)
I'm sorry you and he are related.
#23. To: Jethro Tull (#21)
#24. To: Cynicom (#22)
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
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#26. To: ghostdogtxn (#23)
He has the beenie and their blessing.
#27. To: ghostdogtxn (#24)
#28. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#25)
Colorblindness would be all wonderful if everyone were colorblind, I'd be all for it. In reality, though, blacks, Mexicans, and other minorities are extremely ethnocentric, but they demand that everyone else not be
#29. To: Cynicom (#27)
#30. To: Jethro Tull (#28)
#31. To: X-15 (#0)
#32. To: ghostdogtxn (#29)
#33. To: Cynicom (#30)
It is racism and bigotry for a white man to vote against a black man because of his color.
#34. To: swarthyguy (#31)
Cool. The election's over, then. Thank God.
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#33)
#36. To: christine (#34)
#37. To: ghostdogtxn (#20)
I can see the family resemblance now..
#38. To: ghostdogtxn (#19)
The dreadful muslim apocalypse that is about to descend on us all. Not sure how they're gonna get here, of course, but that technical stuff isn't important...
#39. To: Cynicom (#7)
And who or what were the people in the cradle of civilization??????
#40. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
We are a congregation which is Unashamedly White and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the White religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are a White people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization – Northern Europe. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a White worship service and ministries which address the White Community.
#41. To: aristeides, ghostdogtxn (#11)
#42. To: Vitamin Z (#40)
#43. To: ghostdogtxn (#3)
Because white people don't come from Africa, and Europe wasn't the cradle of civilization, and white people weren't kept as slaves here?
#44. To: Vitamin Z (#41)
#45. To: Jethro Tull (#42)
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#46. To: aristeides, X-15 (#11)
Whoever wrote this seems to approve of the Bush administration's agendas of fear and hate.
#47. To: ghostdogtxn (#12)
I don't understand this fixation with race. I don't think most of my generation does.
#48. To: YertleTurtle (#43)
Obama is not a Muslim, not a Christian. He's an agnostic.
#49. To: aristeides, Vitimin Z, Obama's Dupes (#45)
Stay focused, boy. Below is the mission statement of your LATEST political saviours (where oh where is Dennis Kucinich?) church, altered - changing BLACK TO WHITE and NORTHERN EUROPE from AFRICA. Now, the question on the table is simple; why would the statement below be unacceptable to YOU PC NAZIs, but be perfectly acceptable to leftist stormtroopers when the original is used by a black such as Obama?
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