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Title: NIU Gunman Stopped Taking Medication
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Published: Feb 15, 2008
Author: Carla K. Johnson, Michael Tarm, David Me
Post Date: 2008-02-15 11:59:27 by Original_Intent
Keywords: SSRI, berserker, Psychiatry
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Comments: 99
NIU Gunman Stopped Taking Medication February 15, 2008 11:41 AM EST DEKALB, Ill. - The man who gunned down five people at Northern Illinois University in a suicidal rampage became erratic after halting his medication and carried a shotgun to campus inside a guitar case, police said Friday. The man, 27-year-old former student Stephen Kazmierczak, was also wielding three handguns during Thursday's ambush inside a lecture hall. Two of the weapons - the pump-action Remington shotgun and a Glock 9mm handgun - were purchased legally less than a week ago, on Feb. 9, authorities said. They were purchased in Champaign, where Kazmierczak was enrolled at the University of Illinois. The other weapons were still being traced. Campus Police Chief Donald Grady said investigators recovered 48 shell casings and six shotgun shells following the attack in Cole Hall. The gunman paused to reload his shotgun after opening fire on a crowd of terrified students in a geology class, sending them running and crawling toward the exits. He shot himself to death on the stage of the hall. Kazmierczak, whose first name was earlier listed as Steven, was taking some kind of medication, Grady said. "He had stopped taking medication and become somewhat erratic in the last couple of weeks," Grady said, declining to name the drug or provide other details. Correcting information his office released earlier Friday, DeKalb County Coroner Rusty Miller said five students, not six, were killed in the rampage, in addition to the gunman. Miller said the higher victim total was the result of confusion over the fate of a patient taken to another county for treatment. "There was a miscommunication," Miller said. In Florida, Polk County sheriff's officials said they were asked to notify the suspect's father - Robert Kazmierczak of Lakeland, Fla. - of his son's death. They said the elder Kazmierczak was not at home to avoid the media. The motive of the killer, who graduated from NIU in 2006 but was a student there as recently as last year, was still not known. Grady said Kazmierczak was an "outstanding" student while at NIU and authorities were still trying to determine why he would kill. There was no known suicide note. "We were dealing with a disturbed individual who intended to do harm on this campus," NIU President John Peters said. Witnesses said the gunman, dressed in black and wearing a stocking cap, emerged from behind a screen on the stage of 200-seat Cole Hall and opened fire just as the class was about to end around 3 p.m. Officials said 162 students were registered for the class but it was unknown how many were there Thursday. Allyse Jerome, 19, a sophomore from Schaumburg, said the gunman burst through a stage door and pulled out a gun. "Honestly, at first everyone thought it was a joke," Jerome said. Everyone hit the floor, she said. Then she got up and ran, but tripped. She said she felt like "an open target." "He could've decided to get me," Jerome said. "I thought for sure he was gonna get me." John Giovanni, 20, of Des Plaines said the gunman calmly fired at the greatest concentration of students. "He was shooting from the hip. He was just shooting," said Giovanni, who turned and ran so fast that he lost a shoe. "I was running but I was hurtling over people in the fetal position." Peters said four people died at the scene, including three students and the gunman. The others died at hospitals. The teacher, a graduate student, was wounded but was expected to recover. DeKalb County Coroner Dennis J. Miller released the identities of four victims: Daniel Parmenter, 20, of Westchester; Catalina Garcia, 20, of Cicero; Ryanne Mace, 19, of Carpentersville; and Julianna Gehant, 32, of Meridan. Another victim, Gayle Dubowski, a 20-year-old sophomore from Carol Stream, died at a Rockford hospital, Winnebago County Coroner Sue Fiduccia said. The killer had been a graduate student in sociology at Northern Illinois as recently as spring 2007, Peters said. He also said the suspect had no record of police contact or an arrest record while attending Northern Illinois, a campus with 25,000 students about 65 miles west of Chicago. The gunman was a student at the University of Illinois in Urbana-Champaign, Chancellor Richard Herman said. Lauren Carr said she was sitting in the third row when she saw the shooter walk through a door on the right-hand side of the stage, pointing a gun straight ahead. "I personally Army-crawled halfway up the aisle," said Carr, a 20-year-old sophomore. "I said I could get up and run or I could die here." She said a student in front of her was bleeding, "but he just kept running." "I heard this girl scream, 'Run, he's reloading the gun!'" More than a hundred students cried and hugged as they gathered outside the Phi Kappa Alpha house early Friday to remember Parmenter, the 20-year-old sophomore from Elmhurst, who was one of those killed. The campus was closed on Friday. Students were urged to call their parents and were offered counseling at any residence hall, according to the school Web site. The school was closed for one day during final exam week in December after campus police found threats, including racial slurs and references to shootings earlier in the year at Virginia Tech, scrawled on a bathroom wall in a dormitory. Police determined after an investigation that there was no imminent threat and the campus was reopened. Peters said he knew of no connection between that incident and Thursday's attack. --- Associated Press writers Carla K. Johnson, Michael Tarm, David Mercer, Martha Irvine, Nguyen Huy Vu, Sarah Rafi, Mike Robinson and photographer Charles Rex Arbogast contributed to this report.
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#48. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent, JCHarris, (#47)
This from the man who has spent considerable time trying to destroy me in private messages. You have no room to talk. You have no honor. JCHarris, one of the things FL has been accusing me of is posting under a second handle at LP and not being the farmfriend who posted on FR. He seems to think that I am not who I say I am and was instrumental in his getting banned from LP. However, I'm not the one who has been deceitful.
You and ole BrerBunny (aka JCHarris) seem to be quite close, eh? How long have the two of you known each other? And how would you know what I say to people in private messages? Feeling a bit paranoid are you?
BTW sweetie pie, I've caught you spewing shit about me on the forum without pinging me. You do seem pretty good at stirring up trouble on forums, that's something I've noticed about you.. Funny, ole BrerRabbit did the SAME exact thing on LP when he first arrived there (and here on 4um just today). Are you and he related, or joined at the hip somehow?
BTW little cowgirl, are you losing your mind, or is someone whispering sweet nothings in your ear?
Since you pinged Mike I can only assume you are referencing him. Mike is not the only friend I have on this forum.
I don't spew shit. Did I mention you buy name or are you assuming? Really? And just which forums would that be? And what trouble have I stirred up here? What trouble did I stir at LP? Other than calling ByteShredder on his theft and using hangman's nooses in posts to me. What trouble did I stir at FR? Can you even name another forum I've been on? I don't think you have noticed anything. You reveal too much of yourself in that one. I think you have done more talking behind my back than I realised.
Actually no, JC and I are not close. I don't think he even likes me. Met him over at LP during my last posting time there. Flirted with him there as I did most of the guys. That ended shortly after I started posting here as you are well aware from conversations we have had. You think people are going to keep what you say any more private than you did for me? Or did you think you were immune to that problem? And BTW, it's considered rude to reveal a handle from another forum. You can self-righteously attack others for not following protocol but the rules don't apply to you I guess.
How long have the two of you known each other? And how would you know what I say to people in private messages? Feeling a bit paranoid are you? You bring Robin and wudidiz into the conversation? Why not ping the whole crowd? Let em all read your insinuations.
This undated image obtained from a MySpace webpage shows Steven Kazmierczak, who was identified by Florida authorities and a university official familiar with the investigation as the gunman who killed five people at Northern Illinois University. (AP Photo) [Photo copyright 2008 by AP] Looks completely normal to me and Jack Blood !!!
I'm starting to think his medication was methadone.
I do not waste my time on closed minded Luddites and know it alls who know nothing as demonstrated on many sites for many years.
You paranoid little sissy. I do not PM and I have no desire to engage in your paranoia or your prissy little gossip gaggles. Bye
Thank you.
President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins
Has anyone's gaydar gone off yet?
The vibe I'm getting from this guy is a homosexual recovering junkie vibe.
Whenever I hear "stellar", at least as applied to a non-"minority race" male anymore, I think the person must be talking about a homosexual.
Too bad. I sent you one I though was important. I did so for lack of a better choice.
Medications are not evil and those that take them are not part of the evil THEM. It is not terribly complicated ... the gun control radicals along with the rest of us should direct our ammo to irresponsible prescribing and un-controlled prescribe-ees. Examples ... only psychiatrists should be authorized to prescribe and those on these medications should be subjected to regular and frequent drug tests ... with strong sanctions for those revealed, from either side, as irresponsible. Actions should have consequences ... a damned good general rule, for that matter.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
I believe I have read that part of his nuttiness arose from a recent romantic breakup. I'm still old fashioned enough to read this as man/woman until I read otherwise.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
The University Shooter Was A Polish-American Jew ...... The Killer's Poppa The father, Robert Kazmierczak, gave no comment. The origin of the name Kazmierczak. http://judicial-inc.biz/82university_shooter_was_a_polish_supplement.htm http://judicial-inc.biz/82university_shooter_was_a_polish.htm ==================================== JEWS DID COLUMBINE...... http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=60590 Virginia Tech Massacre Port Arthur Massacre Judicial Index President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913. History proved that on that day, the Constitution ceased to be the governing covenant of the American people, and our liberties were handed over to a small group of international bankers. - Secrets of the Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins
Bunnie, you are back. How's life in the Briar patch?
You are certainly one petty little drama queen. Go pull some cow teat, that might make your obsessions less painful.
There are MANY documented cases of formerly rational people shooting up their families who had recently been put on Prozac and similar drugs. The DRUGS are what trigger the psychosis, and they should be looked at more closesly.
Speaking of paranoia, what makes you think I was talking about you in terms of PM's?
What I've read could apply to any two people sharing a house - there can be fall-outs.
Haven't seen that. He apparently didn't go after his female house-mate, and left no note to her, so it does not look like there was much there. Like a beard.
lol
Two wings of the same bird. Vote all you want, the flight plan doesn't change.
You're the one who seems obsessed. You're the one who was discussing me in PMs to everyone. Now suddenly I'm the one with a problem because I called you on your shit? That's rich.
Hey weirdo, you are becoming a bit overly paranoid these days. Take my advice and milk your cows. If anything, I could accuse you of the same thing you are accusing me of. I do find your obsession with global warming and mercury in vaccines in terms of shilling for the corporations a bit disturbing, but your "debate tactics" definitely scream out SHILL. And I HAVE caught you ridiculing me on a thread where I wasn't even a party to the discussion, so shove it.
You are turning people against each other. You cozy up to people in PM's, especially those that fit a certain profile, such as some of the more "troublesome" posters that post information critical of the status quo. You seek to gain personal information on them, in various ways. Then, you start fighting with others, and talk about them in PM's to those you've cozied up with. It's pretty blatent.
And BTW, who exactly is EVERYONE, in your eyes?
You seek to gain personal information on them, in various ways. Then, you start fighting with others, and talk about them in PM's to those you've cozied up with. It's pretty blatent. HUH??? What a bunch of crap that is. When do you stop making shit up? Every other post you come up with a different accusation about what I'm doing. Chritine, I'm getting tired of the constant false accusations.
If it talks like a shill, smells like a shill, and acts like a shill, I call it for what it is. You are a SHILL. That little game of pinging a zillion posters is what shills have done over the years on LP. Yukon does it still, as well as Byteshredder. BeAChooser did it often, as well as lesser known shills such as Kyle (who's probably resurfaced with a new name), and various others. It's pretty much a dead give away when someone pings an entire list of people to disparage a poster, unless of course it is to draw attention to an article or a post that contains valuable information. I pinged the two that I did as we are a bit curious as to your agenda here and why you are doing this. I did not ping everyone I could think of however. You want a war sweetie? You haven't seen anything yet.
Chritine, I'm getting tired of the constant false accusations. Tell me what part of what I posted is wrong. I can give proof if you insist. And BTW, you certainly reinforce my thoughts when you have to resort to crying to mommy. Bwa, FormerLurker is saying things that I don't like, please make him shut up.
Oh, sweet Jesus!
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
You're the one starting the shit not me. I'm on the defensive here just trying to keep up with the latest accusation. You are a SHILL. That little game of pinging a zillion posters is what shills have done over the years on LP. Yukon does it still, as well as Byteshredder. BeAChooser did it often, as well as lesser known shills such as Kyle (who's probably resurfaced with a new name), and various others. It's pretty much a dead give away when someone pings an entire list of people to disparage a poster, unless of course it is to draw attention to an article or a post that contains valuable information. I pinged the two that I did as we are a bit curious as to your agenda here and why you are doing this. You think I'm a shill? LOL! You think I have an agenda? Grange policy!!! Always!!! Everybody knows farmfriend is Grange. Fine I won't ping a bunch of people I'll ping two besides Christine. Two people who can verify beyond a doubt I am who I say I am. Verify I'm not a shill. You want to verify it yourself? Call the California State Grange office, talk to Jay Hartz. You can get their phone number off their web site. Call the National Grange, talk to LeRoy Watson, their Legislative Director. Contact the guys I worked with on the Klamath Bucket Brigade. Those people here who know my real name can look it up on the web, my contact information is there because of my work on the Sawgrass Rebellion. You mentioned my web site somewhere along the lines, making accusations about it that aren't true. You were talking about my chat site. Check out my handle on that site. scpg2 = Sacramento County Pomona Grange #2. That was the last handle I used on FR. My second one was FOG724 = Fair Oaks Grange #724. What you didn't know is that I also have a Legislative site I set up for the Grange when I was Master of Sacramento County Pomona Grange #2. farmfriend = former Legislative Director California State Grange Founded in 1867, the Grange is the oldest general farm and public policy organization in the United States. I am who I say I am. I'm not a shill. I don't have motives other than friendship when I talk to people, on or off the forum.
What is this thread now about? Thanks.
Join the Ron Paul Revolution You know what? Say whatever the fuck you want to say about me. Talk about me all you want in PMs. If people believe the crap you spew then they believe it. People want to be my friend, I'm open to friendship. I'm always honest and upfront with people. I expect the same from others. If people can't handle that or want to believe something different, so be it.
Romans 1:17 1/2-32, 48, 78, HIKE!
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestYeah that's right Harris, at least I ping you when I talk about you, something that you and your little farmfriend tend to neglect when you do talk about others, such as me for instance.
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#49. To: farmfriend, JCHarris, robin, Original_Intent, wudidiz (#48)
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#50. To: farmfriend (#48)
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#51. To: farmfriend, Ferret Mike (#48)
JCHarris, one of the things FL has been accusing me of is posting under a second handle at LP and not being the farmfriend who posted on FR.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#52. To: FormerLurker, Ferret Mike (#51)
BTW little cowgirl, are you losing your mind, or is someone whispering sweet nothings in your ear?
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#53. To: FormerLurker (#50)
BTW sweetie pie, I've caught you spewing shit about me on the forum without pinging me.
You do seem pretty good at stirring up trouble on forums, that's something I've noticed about you..
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#54. To: FormerLurker, JCHarris, Christine (#49)
You and ole BrerBunny (aka JCHarris) seem to be quite close, eh?
How long have the two of you known each other?
And how would you know what I say to people in private messages? Feeling a bit paranoid are you?
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#55. To: FormerLurker, Christine, catcher, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, Artisan, Axenolith, lodwick, James Deffenbach, iconoclast, Critter, Brian S, Dakmar, IndieTX, richard9151, YertleTurtle, who knows what evil, Sparker (#49)
You and ole BrerBunny (aka JCHarris) seem to be quite close, eh?
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#56. To: robin (#45)
#57. To: noone222 (#56)
#58. To: FormerLurker (#47)
#59. To: FormerLurker (#47)
#60. To: Original_Intent (#46)
#61. To: noone222 (#56)
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#62. To: noone222 (#56)
#63. To: noone222 (#56)
#64. To: JCHarris (#59)
I do not PM
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#65. To: Original_Intent, noone222, nobody (#46)
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#66. To: FormerLurker, All (#27)
It's part of the reason people are so f'ing confused these days, half them are on some sort of psyche drug.
#67. To: nobody (#62)
The vibe I'm getting from this guy is a homosexual recovering junkie vibe.
#68. To: Original_Intent (#0)
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judicial-inc, which is being suppressed by google, http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=73618 , is reporting:
Pearl High School massacre
Red Lake Massacre
Columbine Massacre
Dunblane
Canadian Gun Control
Oklahoma City Bombing
Natalee Holloway murder
#69. To: JCHarris (#59)
#70. To: farmfriend (#54)
And BTW, it's considered rude to reveal a handle from another forum. You can self-righteously attack others for not following protocol but the rules don't apply to you I guess.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#71. To: iconoclast (#66)
Examples ... only psychiatrists should be authorized to prescribe and those on these medications should be subjected to regular and frequent drug tests ... with strong sanctions for those revealed, from either side, as irresponsible.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#72. To: JCHarris (#59)
You paranoid little sissy. I do not PM and I have no desire to engage in your paranoia or your prissy little gossip gaggles
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#73. To: iconoclast (#67)
#74. To: iconoclast (#67)
I believe I have read that part of his nuttiness arose from a recent romantic breakup.
#75. To: noone222 (#56)
Looks completely normal to me and Jack Blood !!!
#76. To: FormerLurker (#70)
You are certainly one petty little drama queen. Go pull some cow teat, that might make your obsessions less painful.
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#77. To: farmfriend (#76)
You're the one who was discussing me in PMs to everyone. Now suddenly I'm the one with a problem because I called you on your shit? That's rich.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#78. To: farmfriend (#53)
And just which forums would that be? And what trouble have I stirred up here?
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#79. To: farmfriend, Ferret Mike (#76)
You're the one who was discussing me in PMs to everyone.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#80. To: FormerLurker, Christine (#78)
You are turning people against each other. You cozy up to people in PM's, especially those that fit a certain profile, such as some of the more "troublesome" posters that post information critical of the status quo.
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#81. To: farmfriend (#55)
(Edited)
You bring Robin and wudidiz into the conversation? Why not ping the whole crowd? Let em all read your insinuations.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#82. To: farmfriend, christine, robin (#80)
When do you stop making shit up? Every other post you come up with a different accusation about what I'm doing.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#83. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#68)
The University Shooter Was A Polish-American Jew
#84. To: FormerLurker, sparker, bitterend, Christine (#81)
You want a war swettie? You haven't seen anything yet.
If it talks like a shill, smells like a shill, and acts like a shill, I call it for what it is.
former Conservation committee chair, CSG
former Lecture and GWA chair, Orangevale Grange #354
former Master, Sacramento County Pomona Grange #2
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#85. To: iconoclast, anyone here (#83)
Freedom*Peace*Prosperity
#86. To: FormerLurker (#82)
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#87. To: iconoclast (#83)
The University Shooter Was A Polish-American Jew
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