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Title: State of the Revolution
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URL Source: http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/columns/state1.htm
Published: Feb 18, 2008
Author: Edgar J. Steele
Post Date: 2008-02-18 00:22:29 by christine
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It seems only fair to me. A couple of weeks ago, our so-called President got his say, then the so-called Democrats gave their response. Now, all that is missing is the truth. I intend to give at least part of that to you today. What's more, I see this "State of the Revolution" report being necessary at least once each year, until it no longer is necessary because America has ceased to exist or until it no longer is possible, likely because I am dead or in jail. Others will pick up the standard, in that event. I have deferred release of this for a time, just in case the "Super Tuesday" primary elections might have been allowed to be somewhat real (they weren't) and in order to mull over the significance of what I saw occur. Executive Summary Here is the Executive Summary, for those who simply must get back to Jeopardy after the break: basically, we are screwed and simply waiting for them to start shooting us so that we can shoot back. The morons who seized control of America after killing JFK have botched everything so badly that there is no way back not involving extensive pain and deprivation, at a minimum. And they certainly will not cede the power they have stolen from us peacefully. More likely: bloodshed and death far in excess of that seen during America's first Civil War... per capita! Why should we suffer for their mistakes and intentional misconduct? Because we let them get away with it, that's why! In recent years, we pulled the levers for Bush, then Clinton, then...er...Bush...and now....Clinton (again?), calling each the lesser of evils, though we always have had men like Ron Paul available to us, men whom we have dismissed as having "no serious chance" at becoming President. Else, we watched while they pulled the levers for us and pretended not to notice the obvious vote fraud - same result, exactly, in any event. 2008 Presidential Election I pledged my troth to Ron Paul as a last-ditch effort, just as I always said. Indeed, already I had come to the conclusion that voting was a waste of time, but I wanted just one last swing at the ball before calling the game altogether. Well...the fat lady has sung. Every single primary caucus and election this year has been tainted by evidence of fraud. Coincidence? Could be. Or it could be ... fraud! Come on! Wake up and smell the corruption in the air. Ron Paul has all this massive support, as far as the eye can see, and he draws precisely 3 or 4% of the vote in each and every election?!? Yeah ... right. I receive emails from list members who have participated (as officials) in various state primary elections and caucuses. All say the same thing: Fraud is taking place on all fronts. That was obvious the day after New Hampshire, when one family called the game after seeing its entire precinct generate precisely zero votes for Ron Paul, though they all voted for him. That was the same election in which we learned that the vote matched the polls just in the precincts where ballots were hand counted - precisely just those precincts, too, while in all the others, voters apparently lied about for whom they intended to vote. Super Tuesday's elections patently were fraudulent, but already you aren't hearing about them any more: silverstockreport.com/2008/california_fraud.html www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/30888 www.dcdave.com/article5/080209.htm Then, of course, there is the matter of those polls - those jiggered poll numbers themselves, particularly since we began to make so much noise about them: christianparty.net/ronpaul.htm . And then there was the marginalization of Dr. Paul in the debates, so painfully obvious, particularly after Fox News got so badly skewered for having excluded him altogether from one debate. The evidence is everywhere, if you are but willing to see it. No matter now, though, because Dr. Paul effectively has withdrawn ... and with millions of those dollars unspent - the dollars that we gave him to fight the good fight in our name. His staff announced seeing no evidence of vote fraud in New Hampshire, in explaining why they never challenged any of what was so painfully obvious to the rest of us. In leaving the building, Dr. Paul stated: "With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter. Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican. I also have another priority. I have constituents in my home district that I must serve. I cannot and will not let them down. And I have another battle I must face here as well. If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas. I cannot and will not let that happen." ("Message From Ron" email, Ron Paul, February 8, 2008). Yeah, I know it sounds reasonable. Too reasonable. Remember, this is the same guy who refused to spend the money we gave him to go after all the obvious election fraud. That was the only way he possibly could have put right the process and gotten a level playing field. We gave him the money to accomplish it. He chose not to do it. Go figure. Ron Paul is history. Get over it. So is the upcoming election. What I find amazing is that his grassroots organization still is blindly flailing about like a newly-headless chicken, raising money, holding "meetups" and talking up the possibility of a brokered convention (though McCain already has effectively sewn up the nomination). What does it matter whether the next President is Hillary, McCain or OBama? They all serve the same master as George Bush. It's going to be more of the same: more killing in the Middle East, more death for our children, more tyranny and poverty for us and more money for the bankers. Now I am torn between advocating not voting altogether and voting for the one person likely to bring America into total chaos most quickly (so that we can get it over with, of course).
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#8. To: christine (#0)
Paul took a dive.
There was never a possibility of a brokered convention whereby Paul would benefit.
and talking ... revolutionary change, the future prospects for their kids and weapons maintenance.
we are simply waiting for them to start shooting us so that we can shoot back. Waiting has been our modus operandi for the past 150 years. Has it benefitted us ? Is Steele saying that they haven't already started shooting us ? If so, I imagine Weaver and some Davidians might argue the point. On a different note, the Book, THE FATAL EMBRACE: Jews and the State, written by Benjamin Ginsberg, details the partnership between the "STATE and JEWS" throughout history and focuses on the fact that Jews are seen to be alienated from the populus throughout history and are used to administer state power, authority, and taxation. You can see that Ginsberg puts a Jewish spin on the reason for this behavior stating that Jews do this for State protection from public persecution. Regardless of Jewish reasoning the facts indicate that Jews have been an accomplice to tyranny from time immemorial, that they enjoy certain privileges and wealth for their willingness to assist State interests regardless of the brutality necessary to impose them. Ginsberg's thesis agrees with my personal opinion that a niche has been carved out for the Jews to administer many behind the scenes activities purposed to maintain elitist control of the masses INTERNATIONALLY. I haven't read the entire book but intend to do so. The section above is enough to give interested persons enough of a taste to realize the danger presented by the Jews, the reason they've been expelled from every country that has offered them sanctuary, and hints at the immediate danger lurking when the Jews become a specially protected group and speaking out against them becomes politically incorrect or illegal.
Here is what is just flat out disappointing. The "elections" are frauds along with the two party system. We have long term members here that are in complete denial and lack common sense. After all the information posted here, these "independents" or "constitutionalists" are nothing more than closet socialists or fascists. They want either big corporations or big government running our lives. They are going to vote "within the party" to try and change it and the course. These closet traitors here are worse than the general sheep population, for they will knowingly vote for a DEM/REP in a complete hoax of an election and the sheep think the elections are real. These "independents" don't care about restoring the Bill Of Rights or the Constitution, they are more concerned about their government health care and blah blah. Wait, here is the classic line, Its not socialism, its civilisation. Its sickening.
Mark If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
I vote for crashing it faster but there is still more wealth to be looted. So I'm still looking at the slow prolonged agony.
Mark If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
I tried and tried to go figure that and just couldn't.
They are very of afraid of Ron Paul. Good.
This guy Steele is an extremist, pure and simple. His over-the-top ranting is counter productive and toxic. As I read it he is not only throwing Dr. Paul under the bus, but the Revolution as well. Keep weapons away from him. I don't know who'd be more likely to shoot ... himself or the next neighbor he encounters. I recently wrote a letter to the editor which was essentially a plea for change ... Paul or Obama. A friend mine at church the following Sunday said he he read it to his wife and she said, "who is this guy Paul?". She is not a half-witted recluse, she is a retired parochial school teacher. Folks, we cyber-addicted, politics-addicted poor souls are not representative of the nation at large. Truth of the matter is that most of America desires BIG gubmint ... the right motivated by hubris and/or fear of external threats ... the left from fear of internal decay and/or a sense that they cannot survive on their own. So starting from the pitiful state in which we find ourselves our task is going to be a long and hard one. Spokesmen who sound like they are one step from suicide and are holding back only until they make one more check under the bed for "conspirators" do not make good comrades in arms. Wishes and self delusion are not starting points nor paths to ultimate victory.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
I guess you all, including Steele---someone may want to email him--- missed the important info concerning the convention: Read it here, a post from JT: freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...gi? ArtNum=73644&Disp=9#C2 When McCain reaches 1191 as declared by the MSM, that will really not be the case. He is not guaranteed all of those delegates. HE MUST WIN THE 1191 DELEGATES AT THE CONVENTION!!!! DID YOU GET THAT!!!! HE DOES NOT WIN THE DELEGATES DURING THE PRIMARIES!!! Bound or pledged delegates are committed to the winner of the primary to vote for that candidate in the first round. Many states have yet to pick delegates. Of those that have, RP has very high delegate counts even though he hasn't won a single primary. How? Well people just simply apply. More of RP supporters are willing to become delegates than McCaine supporters.....Ask some here that have become RP delegates. The primaries and caucases are nothing more than window dressing. Delegates are not chosen the day of the primary/caucas. The only thing the primaries/caucases do is commit the BOUND/PLEDGED delegates to the winner either by winner take all or proportioned out. At the convention, there will be bound.pledged and unbound/unpledged delegates. NOT ALL DELEGATES FOR EACH STATE ARE BOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The unbound/unpledged can vote for anyone!!!!! At the convention, if McInsane does not get 51% of the delegate vote on the first round, then they vote again. In the next round, delegates can vote for whomever they want. Read and learn please!!!!! and spread the word to everyone you can. So get your heads out of the MSM garbage!!! . . . "There are 561 bound delegates left of which Mr. McCain must win 71% of to reach 1191.....now when was the last time he won with 71% of the vote? Now Huck will probably win nebraska, kentucky, miss, and SD.......if this happens, then McCain would have to win just about every remaining delegate, and that is not likely to happen. Basically, McCain would almost have to run the board of the other states to win......not likely. . . Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Vermont is the only winner take all state remaining, so even if McCain wins a state, he does not get all of the bound delegates. . . THE MSM IS LUMPING BOTH BOUND AND UNBOUND IN THEIR TOTALS.......VERY MISLEADING" END EXCERPT full text and more discussion at link
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
yep. they've got a community up there.
Two wings of the same bird. Vote all you want, the flight plan doesn't change.
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We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
Say you have $20 million. You have a presidential election to run, staff to pay and an agenda to fund. Voter fraud is funded by billions. Do you throw your measly $20 million at this systemic problem, get further marginalized and have THEIR system prove you wrong? No, I don't think so. you have your good friend Dennis Kucinich and the Granny Warriors do it for you. see how far they got.
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
They just can't bring themselves to believe the corruption. Those representatives either go along with it, or get Wellstoned (or Gillmored).
We demand our United States Constitution be restored.
They are, on the other hand, very useful to the powers that be.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
that's when he lost me....
Two wings of the same bird. Vote all you want, the flight plan doesn't change.
i'll believe it when i see it. call me cynical...and, btw, i'll be the first in line to eat crow if it does!
Two wings of the same bird. Vote all you want, the flight plan doesn't change.
The Paultards are such drama queens. This guy has no clue as to what REAL tyranny and poverty is.
Aren't they though.
"Tune in next week to see if doing nothing helps." -Deek Jackson
Chuck Baldwin -- GOP "Party Of Death," "You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
No offense, but in the meantime your cynicism in the face of the work at hand and at the people trying to move it forward only drags down that which you stated you supported. It's ok to post whatever you like in the form of Edgar Steele, but after the last week of non stop slamming of RP on this forum, your continuing to post the same diatribe is perplexing. You wanted RP to run 3rd party. he made it clear he would not do that from the get go. You wanted RP to attack voter fraud in NH...how far did that effort get...see my post above. You want RP to give up his base of support in the 14th Congressional District. He is not going to do that. How has HE failed YOU? Lay down your cards and let's get on with it.
"Tune in next week to see if doing nothing helps." -Deek Jackson
MSM just announced that Papa Bush (foster father of Bubba) just announced his endorsement of McInsane. For heaven's sake, give it up!
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
yet PB still votes GOP, does he not?
Two wings of the same bird. Vote all you want, the flight plan doesn't change.
Then enlighten us, what tyranny and poverty have you suffered? Tell us.
Give what up, asshole?
"Tune in next week to see if doing nothing helps." -Deek Jackson
He was 'demonized", by the media, after he said "When I raise my hand (taking the oath of office)the NWO will come crashing down." SKULL and Bones: Order of Death "You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
That's the point. There is no REAL tyranny or poverty in this country.
it was the announcement that RP and his staff saw no evidence of vote fraud in NH that was extremely upsetting to me. i never said RP failed ME, but if i were to point at one thing, that would be it. vote fraud is rampant and happened not only in NH, but in each subsequent primary and RP remained mute on it. there's where he could have demonstrated the most leadership and also could have done the most for the american people for without honest elections, we have nothing. it's one thing to not want to spend the money on the fight. it's quite another to deny its existence.
Two wings of the same bird. Vote all you want, the flight plan doesn't change.
We're supposed to wait until it is too late to speak up. The domestic wiretapping, the FEMA response to Katrina, the empty and waiting FEMA camps, the UNPatriot Act, the Executive Orders that have made this President a Dictator, the Torture Renditions, arguing over what constitutes "torture", the loss of writ of Habeas Corpus, proof of voter fraud, the expensive war designed to make Cheney and his friends multi-billionaires and reduce the country to 3rd world status: these are to be endured without complaint until even your right to speak up is denied.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' So you believe in a big government nanny State rather than personal responsibility. Would Ron Paul approve? tsk. tsk.
500 Americans in flotillas full of water and food were blocked by FEMA from reaching dehydrated Americans. Trucks full of water were blocked by FEMA from reaching Americans. You don't have your facts, you should be quiet. The so-called nanny state of George W. Bush was ensuring that Americans could not help their fellow Americans. Instead, the 3rd world levees were intentionally compromised to save the French Quarter, drowning Ward 9 even more. Elderly people who survived Katrina for the first few days, drowned later. Did you miss the heart-rendering news video of the official who lost his own mother b/c, as he told her on the phone "the cavalry was coming" to save her, but the FEMA calvary preferred to drown her.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/09/Chosen_few.html
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Suggest you read this: Debunking the Myths of Hurricane Katrina http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/earth/2315076.html?page=1
Hahahahaha! Another article by DHS Michael Chertoff's cousin!
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0112-15.htm
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' We never actually thought to doubt this claim, simply believing it irrelevant. The piece needs to be judged on its contents, not the surname of one of those involved. But then we heard a suggestion that Benjamin Chertoff denied the story altogether, so decided to email him to hear what he had to say. Was he really related to Michael Chertoff? And if he wasn't, then how could he explain the quote from his mother? This is what he had to say. *************************************************** Here's the story, as best as I know: I'm not related to Michael Chertoff, at least in any way I can figure out. We might be distant relatives, 15 times removed, but then again, so might you and I. Bottom line is I've never met him, never communicated with him, and nobody I know in my family has ever met or communicated with him. As for what my mom said: When Chertoff was nominated to be head of homeland security it was the first I'd heard of him, and the same for my family (and, FYI, we'd already sent the 9/11 issue to the press by then!). My dad and I thought there might be some distant relation. When Chris Bollyn called and asked my mom if there was a relation (introducing himself as only "Chris"), she said "they might be distant cousins." Like much in the conspiracy world, this was taken WAY out of context. (Another case in point: Bollyn called me earlier and asked "Were you the senior researcher on the story?" I said, "I guess so," -- that's not a title I have ever used, nor is it at all common in magazine journalism, but I was the research editor at the time, so it kinda made sense.) Nonetheless, I was one of 9 reporters on the story, not counting editors, photo researchers, photo editors, copy editors, layout designers, production managers, fact-checkers, etc., etc., etc. who worked on this story.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/arti...070305chertoffscousin.htm crimesofthestate.blogspot...tcher-of-new-orleans.html "Benjamin's mother in Pelham, New York, however, was more willing to talk. Asked if Benjamin was related to the new Secretary of Homeland Security, Judy said, "Yes, of course, he is a cousin." http://educate-yourself.org/cn/c...11propaganda06mar05.shtml 'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Rebates for Ron - Ron Paul For Dummies - New R3volution
You're enabling the shill to hijack this thread which is about Ron Paul.
"Tune in next week to see if doing nothing helps." -Deek Jackson
Gee, I wonder why I didn't get pinged to this? ;)
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestRon Paul is history. Get over it.
#9. To: Original_Intent (#6)
What I find amazing is that his grassroots organization still is blindly flailing about like a newly-headless chicken, raising money, holding "meetups" and talking up the possibility of a brokered convention
#10. To: Cynicom (#9)
What I find amazing is that his grassroots organization still is blindly flailing about like a newly-headless chicken, raising money, holding "meetups"
#11. To: christine (#0)
The morons who seized control of America after killing JFK have botched everything so badly that there is no way back not involving extensive pain and deprivation, at a minimum. And they certainly will not cede the power they have stolen from us peacefully.
#12. To: christine (#0)
we are screwed and simply waiting for them to start shooting us so that we can shoot back.
#13. To: christine (#1)
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#14. To: mirage (#7)
#15. To: christine (#0)
Yeah, I know it sounds reasonable. Too reasonable. Remember, this is the same guy who refused to spend the money we gave him to go after all the obvious election fraud. That was the only way he possibly could have put right the process and gotten a level playing field. We gave him the money to accomplish it. He chose not to do it. Go figure.
#16. To: christine (#0)
Ron Paul has all this massive support, as far as the eye can see, and he draws precisely 3 or 4% of the vote in each and every election?!? Yeah ... right.
#17. To: christine, Jethro Tull, Cynicom, iconoclast, Kamala, robin, Esso, critter, Brian S, Arator, PnbC, Original_Intent, buckeye, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, FOH, angle, Elliott Jackalope, Pern, mirage, who knows what evil, lodwick, noone222, HOUNDDAWG (#0)
#18. To: wakeup (#3)
Doesn't McLamb live up there?
#19. To: iconoclast, dakmar (#17)
#20. To: wbales (#15)
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I tried and tried to go figure that and just couldn't.
#21. To: Kamala (#13)
We have long term members here that are in complete denial and lack common sense.
#22. To: iconoclast (#16)
Spokesmen who sound like they are one step from suicide and are holding back only until they make one more check under the bed for "conspirators" do not make good comrades in arms.
#23. To: wbales (#15)
Yeah, I know it sounds reasonable. Too reasonable. Remember, this is the same guy who refused to spend the money we gave him to go after all the obvious election fraud. That was the only way he possibly could have put right the process and gotten a level playing field. We gave him the money to accomplish it. He chose not to do it. Go figure.
#24. To: angle (#17)
#25. To: christine (#0)
more tyranny and poverty for us
#26. To: aristeides, christine (#22)
They are, on the other hand, very useful to the powers that be.
#27. To: christine (#18)
Oct 27, 2006 ... Pat Buchanan was absolutely right when he said that the two major
parties are "two wings of the same bird of prey.
www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin330.htm
#28. To: christine (#24)
i'll believe it when i see it. call me cynical...and, btw, i'll be the first in line to eat crow if it does!
#29. To: angle (#17)
So get your heads out of the MSM garbage!!! . . .
#30. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#27)
#31. To: longnose gar (#25)
This guy has no clue as to what REAL tyranny and poverty is.
#32. To: iconoclast (#29)
For heaven's sake, give it up!
#33. To: christine (#30)
excommunicate.net/skull-and-bones
#34. To: Pern (#31)
Then enlighten us, what tyranny and poverty have you suffered?
#35. To: angle (#28)
You wanted RP to attack voter fraud in NH...how far did that effort get
#36. To: longnose gar, Pern (#34)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#37. To: robin (#36)
the FEMA response to Katrina, the empty and waiting FEMA camps
#38. To: longnose gar (#37)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#39. To: longnose gar (#37)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#40. To: robin (#38)
#41. To: longnose gar (#40)
Photograph by Benjamin Chertoff
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#42. To: longnose gar (#40)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#43. To: robin (#41)
The senior researcher on Popular Mechanics March 2005 "911: Debunking the Myths" story, Ben Chertoff, is a cousin of Department of Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff.
#44. To: longnose gar (#43)
Christopher Bollyn, American Free Press: "(Benjamin) Chertoff said he was the "senior researcher" of the piece. When asked if he was related to Michael Chertoff, he said, 'I don't know.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#45. To: longnose gar (#25)
#46. To: robin (#44)
#47. To: christine (#1)
To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, iconoclast, Kamala, robin, Esso, Dakmar, Brian S, Arator, PnbC, Original_Intent, buckeye, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, FOH, angle, Elliott Jackalope, Pern, mirage, who knows what evil, lodwick, noone222, HOUNDDAWG
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