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Title: It's About to Get Real Ugly (Clinton & Obama)
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Town Hall
URL Source: http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ ... /18/its_about_to_get_real_ugly
Published: Feb 18, 2008
Author: Armstrong Williams
Post Date: 2008-02-19 15:28:29 by farmfriend
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Comments: 27
By Armstrong Williams Before the primary season began the Democratic Party reached an agreement with its potential presidential candidates that they would not campaign in Florida or Michigan and that the delegates from those states would be meaningless. All the candidates agreed, which in effect, made the Florida and Michigan primaries moot because none of the delegates could be used by the candidates vying for the nomination. The Clinton campaign was the main advocate for this “ban” because at the time they felt they were invincible and would have little competition from the field. A few months later Super Tuesday arrived. Super Tuesday was Hillary Clinton’s chance to wipe Senator Barack Obama out of the picture, but what happened was shocking and humiliating to the once unstoppable and formidable candidate. After the votes were tallied Clinton’s campaign had to face the realization that despite winning the big states (California and New York) she was still in a horse race that was neck in neck with the upstart from Illinois. The result of Super Tuesday was a loss of momentum over the coming weeks which led to less money raised, less positive talk in the news, less volunteer sign-ups, and less energy than her rival. And then she shook up her campaign by removing (or forcing the resignation of) her deputy campaign manager. The cold hard truth is that Clinton is in danger of losing the nomination despite going against her word and campaigning (and winning the non-races) in Florida and Michigan. Now, out of desperation, the Clinton campaign is lobbying the Democratic Party to reverse its prior decision and count the Florida and Michigan delegates in the final delegate count, despite their earlier disqualification. How outrageous! Even more astounding than Clinton’s backstabbing is the fact that now the Democratic super delegates are actually coming into play. This is how the super delegate system works: The super delegates are comprised of former presidents, governors, senators, party high ranking Democratic Party officials and other elite Democrats. They make up about 20 percent of the total delegates and have been around since the 1980’s. Super delegates are free to support any candidate they choose and are not tied to any specific state. Currently there are 796 Democratic super delegates, about 400 of which have yet to pledge their support for either Obama or Clinton. Usually these super delegates’ votes wouldn’t be important because the nominee would emerge before the convention as they win enough regular delegates. In this race however, it is possible that neither Democratic candidate will win the 2,025 delegates needed to secure the nomination; thus, at the Democratic Convention the super delegates could literally decide the winner. The Obama campaign is now realizing that Clinton is willing to fight nasty by pushing for Michigan and Florida delegates to be included and by persuading super delegates by all available means. Well, the Obama camp is not sitting idly by and allowing the Clinton's to do what they do best: continue their trail of corruption, and total disregard for rules and guidelines. The word on the street is that the Obama campaign and New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg have already met and devised an incredible plan if Clinton wins the nominee. Mayor Bloomberg would give nearly $1 billion to Obama's campaign after which Obama would bolt from the Democratic Party and run as an Independent candidate with king-maker Bloomberg as his running mate. The Obama campaign realizes that Obama is too new at this game and doesn't have the political weight of the Clintons to bring in the true heavy-hitters of the party's hierarchy. So, according to sources it was Bloomberg himself who suggested this cunning strategy. It's mind boggling that the Clintons are willing to destroy the entire Democratic Party, and potentially in the process lose the White House and seats in Congress, for their own selfish thirst for power and glory. Whether or not this sort of madness occurs, the race for the White House is becoming uglier with each passing day. Unless Clinton gets knocked out of this race in the coming days, which is a high possibility considering she has lost ten straight states and got swept last weekend and earlier this week, we can all expect her and her husband to pull out all the stops to get her through. But the fact remains, she is not nearly the candidate that Obama is, and the Democratic Party would be far better served to quickly move to support Obama and make him the nominee. Armstrong Williams is a widely-syndicated columnist, CEO of the Graham Williams Group, and hosts the Armstrong Williams Show. He is the author of Beyond Blame.
It's About to Get Real Ugly
Monday, February 18, 2008
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#1. To: farmfriend, Brian S, iconoclast, aristeides, Elliott Jackalope (#0)
?!?!?!
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' Oh, puleeze, Robin! This is Armstrong Williams blathering, no doubt schilling for the RNC--just tossing bullshit at the fan in order to keep things stirred up. It wasn't that long ago he was being paid by the bush to spread the pablum...what was it? Something like a quarter million dollars......or was that the bimbo they were paying that much? Take what he says with a grain of salt.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
America is stuck with the Clintons until they croak, they're like a festering herpes sore.
"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck
www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=6871 Obama Better Than Clinton? Think Again! By Sensible_Strategist | February 19, 2008 The following is taken from this IndyBay Interview with Cynthia McKinney where she is quoting Allan Nairn: “Obama’s top adviser is Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski gave an interview to the French press a number of years ago where he boasted about the fact that it was he who created the whole Afghan jihadi movement, the movement that produced Osama bin Laden. And he was asked by the interviewer, ‘Well, don’t you think this might have had some bad consequences?’ And Brzezinski replied, ‘Absolutely not. It was definitely worth it, because we were going after the Soviets.’ … “Another key Obama adviser, Anthony Lake, was the main force behind the U.S. invasion of Haiti in the mid-Clinton years during which they brought back Aristide essentially in political chains, pledged to support a World Bank/IMF overhaul of the economy, which resulted in an increase in malnutrition deaths among Haitians and set the stage for the current ongoing political disaster in Haiti. “Another Obama adviser, General Merrill McPeak, an Air Force man, was the man overseeing the delivery to Indonesia of U.S. fighter planes not long after the Dili massacre in East Timor in ‘91. “Another key Obama adviser, Dennis Ross, advised Clinton and both Bushes. He oversaw U.S. policy toward Israel/Palestine. He pushed the principle that the legal rights of the Palestinians, the rights recognized under international law, must be subordinated to the needs of the Israeli government — in other words, their desire to expand to do whatever they want in the Occupied Territories. “And Ross was one of the people who, interestingly, led the political assault on former Democratic President Jimmy Carter. Carter is no peacenik — Carter is the one who bears ultimate responsibility for that Timor terror that Holbrooke was involved in. But Ross led an assault on him, because, regarding Palestine, Carter was so bold as to agree with Bishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa that what Israel was doing in the Occupied Territories was tantamount to apartheid. And so, Ross was one of those who fiercely attacked him. “Another Obama adviser is Sarah Sewall, who heads a human rights center at Harvard and is a former Defense official. She wrote the introduction to General Petraeus’s Marine Corps/Army counterinsurgency handbook, the handbook that is now being used worldwide by U.S. troops in various killing operations.” —End Quote From Article— We cannot have another 4 years of this vicious foreign policy - not to mention rapidly growing tyranny at home. I encourage everyone to contact Cynthia McKinney here and encourage her to form a unity-ticket with a “right-side” candidate to save our nation. Peace and Liberty - Not Right and Left
U still supporting RP?
"Tune in next week to see if doing nothing helps." -Deek Jackson
$1 billion?
"Tune in next week to see if doing nothing helps." -Deek Jackson
Of the three possible candidates at the moment, who would you prefer to see in the WH? None of the above is understandable but that just means the rest of America will decide.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' I'm not saying the story is true, but Bloomberg could easily afford that amount.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Thanks for the info.
"Tune in next week to see if doing nothing helps." -Deek Jackson
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg Forbes and other sources report his net worth at US$11.5 billion as of 2007[7]. Bloomberg is among the world's richest people. He was ranked 34th by Forbes magazine in its list of 400 Richest Americans in September 2006. He was ranked 142nd in its list of the in March 2007. List of the World's Billionaires
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.' I like that analogy.
People who vote are starting to get on my nerves.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Apparently she/he's a switch hitter and not just from the distance of one side of the plate to the other ... all the way from Ron to Hill.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
You kiddin, right?
Then why don't you drop ALL the way out?
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
A SHE called you? I'm astounded.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
Sure. Imagine the prospective payoffs if you win.
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
That's all I've been waiting for ... marching orders from Cynthia. Thanks.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
Because I'm not running for anything.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I was very polite. A note from your wife would be helpful. heheheheheheh
CELEBRATING UN-PRESIDENT'S DAY Here's a good long rant (rest at link): "...I will complain-I will scream and rant bitch and whine, and I won't shut up, and what I will complain most loudly about is a culture where citizens get what they settle for because they refuse to face the reality that the system is completely rigged against them, and they prolong their own agony by hanging on to the fantasy of business as usual as their empire, well into collapse, sucks the last drops of their blood and rides off into a Stage Five smog-alert sunset to rape and pillage and plunder the rest of the planet in the name of things like "democracy", "the two-party system", "Super Tuesday", and let's not forget, "the first female president..."
"Tune in next week to see if doing nothing helps." -Deek Jackson
I was attempting to imply the room of callers was probably full of her gender with the vast majority being Hillaryites.
Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things ... T. S. Eliot
Amen!
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
The word on the street is that the Obama campaign and New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg have already met and devised an incredible plan if Clinton wins the nominee. Mayor Bloomberg would give nearly $1 billion to Obama's campaign after which Obama would bolt from the Democratic Party and run as an Independent candidate with king-maker Bloomberg as his running mate.
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#2. To: robin (#1)
#3. To: farmfriend (#0)
It's mind boggling that the Clintons are willing to destroy the entire Democratic Party, and potentially in the process lose the White House and seats in Congress, for their own selfish thirst for power and glory.
#4. To: robin, Original_Intent, farmfriend, Brian S, iconoclast, aristeides, Elliott Jackalope (#1)
#5. To: TwentyTwelve (#4)
I encourage everyone to contact Cynthia McKinney here and encourage her to form a unity-ticket with a “right-side” candidate to save our nation.
#6. To: robin (#1)
Mayor Bloomberg would give nearly $1 billion to Obama's campaign after which Obama would bolt from the Democratic Party and run as an Independent candidate with king-maker Bloomberg as his running mate.
#7. To: TwentyTwelve (#4)
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#8. To: angle (#6)
$1 billion?
#9. To: aristeides (#8)
#10. To: angle (#9)
Michael Rubens Bloomberg (born February 14, 1942) is an American businessman, philanthropist, and the Mayor of New York City. He gained his wealth as the founder of financial news and data company Bloomberg L.P. Although a lifelong Democrat, he ran on the Republican ballot and was elected mayor in 2001, then reelected to a second term in 2005. He is frequently mentioned as a possible independent candidate for the 2008 presidential election and fueled that speculation when he left the Republican Party in June 2007.[2] He has repeatedly denied any plans to run and says the news media has concocted his possible presidential bid.
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
#11. To: X-15 (#3)
America is stuck with the Clintons until they croak, they're like a festering herpes sore.
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#12. To: farmfriend (#0)
#13. To: farmfriend (#0)
#14. To: angle (#5)
U still supporting RP?
#15. To: ghostdogtxn (#13)
. I was very polite.
#16. To: nobody (#12)
People who vote are starting to get on my nerves.
#17. To: ghostdogtxn (#13)
I just got a call from a Clinton representative. She was very nice.
#18. To: angle (#6)
#19. To: TwentyTwelve (#4)
The following is taken from this IndyBay Interview with Cynthia McKinney
#20. To: iconoclast (#16)
Then why don't you drop ALL the way out?
#21. To: Cynicom (#15)
#22. To: iconoclast (#17)
#23. To: ghostdogtxn (#21)
Why would I be a dick just because I can?
#24. To: farmfriend (#0)
http://carolynbaker.net/site/content/view/329/
#25. To: ghostdogtxn (#22)
That was really weak. Why don't you try again?
#26. To: angle (#24)
and what I will complain most loudly about is a culture where citizens get what they settle for because they refuse to face the reality that the system is completely rigged against them,
Why do we fall sir? So we can learn to pick ourselves up. -- Alfred, Batman Begins
#27. To: iconoclast (#25)
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