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Title: MSNBC Projects: Obama Wins Wisconsin
Source: MSNBC
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Published: Feb 19, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-02-19 21:24:29 by Brian S
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Views: 1153
Comments: 85

10 in a row. Impressive, indeed.

BTW, Clinton had a 25 point polling lead 2 months ago in that state. Subscribe to *Obama 2008*

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#7. To: Cynicom (#2)

OMG!!! McFart did his 'vision' speech tonite. He said 'I know who I am', which is probably not exactly true or not true most of the time.

Then, Hillory shows up on the tube. She says "go to my web site and give me some of your money".

LOL

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-19   21:39:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#6)

Gov Rendell of Pa put it very blunt and he is NY Jew. White people are not willing to vote for a black president.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#7)

Republicans overwhelmingly voted for more war.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#7)

OMG!!! McFart did his 'vision' speech tonite. He said 'I know who I am', which is probably not exactly true or not true most of the time.

Then, Hillory shows up on the tube. She says "go to my web site and give me some of your money".

LOL

I saw it all too! Good synopsis.

Now Obama is telling Texans to vote early.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: robin (#10)

In general, people that vote in primaries are not a cross section of voters, either dem or pub.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#8)

You know I already listed all the predominately white states that Obama won. So, I must disagree with Rendell, based on the facts.

A lot of young people are motivated to turn out and vote. And they do not share the same dislikes of Rendell.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#11)

Obama, like Ron Paul, has a huge grassroots support. Lots of first time voters.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: robin (#10)

Obummer/McCain, McCain and war win. Obummer wins, we lose also.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#14)

I'm looking for less war, my expectations are not high.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#13)

Robin if you check the numbers in DC you will see how those figures are skewed.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robin (#10)

It's funny how the Hillory now says 'forget change, I got the experience' but, back in 1992, she and Billy were saying 'elect us because America needs change, forget the experience'.

LOL - Obamer says, the problem in America is not the lack of good ideas but Washington becoming the place where ideas go to die. I remember Gary Hart's campaign, back in 1984, I think. He was running the campaign of 'new ideas'. His shtick was his picture on the TV screen set on top on what the media were all calling 'a high-tech grid' which was a black background with thin blue lines, intersecting at angles that were not 'right'. So he was the man of 'new ideas'.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-19   21:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#17)

It's funny how the Hillory now says 'forget change, I got the experience' but, back in 1992, she and Billy were saying 'elect us because America needs change, forget the experience'.

LOL - Obamer says, the problem in America is not the lack of good ideas but Washington becoming the place where ideas go to die.

That's good. And you have a good memory. ;)

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin (#18)

DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES / CAUCUSES February 12, 2008

REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES / CAUCUSES February 12, 2008 Race

Status

Candidate

Votes

Vote%

Del*

Precincts District of Columbia Primary Updated 11:34 a.m. EST, Feb 14, 2008

County Results

Obama

85,534

75%

11

98% reporting

Clinton

27,326

24%

3

Uncommitted

297

1%

0

Race

Status

Candidate

Votes

Vote%

Del*

Precincts District of Columbia Primary Updated 11:34 a.m. EST, Feb 14, 2008

County Results

McCain

3,929

68%

16

98% reporti

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#19)

Why do you care about the primary results in DC?

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: robin (#18)

robin...

Check the votes for Obummer and Hillary totals and the ones for McCain...

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: robin (#20)

I dont...I am trying to show you how the numbers are skewed...Who do think was out voting on a bad day in DC????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#22)

I think the enthusiasm for Obama explains the turnout.

However, this is a mystery:

Mystery: NY Results Say Obama Got Zero Votes In 80 Districts

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#23)

He's giving an uplifting speech with details.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#22)

Wisconsin Exit Polls:
Obama Won:
Women (51-49)
All age groups under 65
All education levels
All regions of the state -- urban, suburban and rural
Voters without college degrees (50-48)
Democrats (50-49)
Whites (53-46)

White men (59-38)
Voters who decided in the last week (58-42)

Won or tied voters of all income levels
Tied among white women
Tied among union members
Tied among union households

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robin (#25)

In DC a population of over 600,000 people, McCain gets less than 4000 votes.

We have race and gender at work here and it is skewing the numbers. This is a classic example. white men are staying home.

Saying who won among white, black or whatever is guess work. Votes totaled are facts.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#26) (Edited)

White men (59-38)

They're voting for Obama over Hillary.

BTW, DC is predominately Black.

White persons, percent, 2006 (a) 38.4% (D.C.) 80.1% (nation)

Black persons, percent, 2006 (a) 56.5% 12.8%

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robin (#27)

That is what I was saying.

The blacks turned out en masse for Obummer, women turned for Hillary and on a bad weather day the white men stayed home.

Therefore the figures are skewed.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#28)

The weather was bad in WI and white men voted for him rather than Hillary.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Brian S (#0)

Wisconsin Republican Primary 19-Feb-08

Delegates: 40

County Results --- 24% Reporting

1 McCain 50,444 54%

2 Huckabee 34,670 37%

3 Ron Paul 4,141 4%

4 Romney 1,758 2%

5 Thompson 600 1%

6 Giulliani 268 1%

7 Hunter 206 0%

Wisconsin Democratic Primary 19-Feb-08

Delegates: 87

County Results --- 29% Reporting

1 Obama 161,953 56%

2 Clinton 125,289 43%

3 Edwards 1,820 1%

4 Kucinich 641 0%

5 Richardson 188 0%

6 Joe Biden 160 0%

7 Richardson 140 0%

8 Chris Dodd 126 0%

9 Mike Gravel 115 0%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-19   22:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: robin (#29)

That is via exit polls and always suspicious.

Lets say it is true, were they voting for Obummer or against Hillary????

Recall I said we have a gender and race thing skewing the numbers.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#28)

Illinois Sen. Barack Obama pulled support from virtually all sectors of the voting public Tuesday on his way to defeating rival Sen. Hillary Clinton in the Virginia, Maryland and Washington, D.C., Democratic primaries, according to CNN exit polling.

www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS...dem.polls/?iref=hpmostpop

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:18:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: robin (#29)

Come March, in Pa Obama will most likely carry Pittsburg and Philly, Clinton the rest of the state. McCain will carry all on the oub side.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#31)

there were many more people voting Democrat than Republican. Could it be that many Republicans and independents are so anti-Clinton that they have turned out in numbers just to ensure she is not on the ticket?

Certainly a portion are against Hillary. But the raw #s voting for Democrats is far higher than for GOP in every primary.

www.guardian.co.uk/news/2...rackobama.uselections2008

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:21:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#33)

Very likely.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: robin (#32)

CNN exit polling.

The votes are not polled, they are facts.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: robin (#34)

Certainly a portion are against Hillary. But the raw #s voting for Democrats is far higher than for GOP in every primary.

Black vote robin, the black vote.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#36)

True, but there's no other way to know who is a young woman and who is an old man.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Cynicom (#37) (Edited)

there were many more people voting Democrat than Republican.

Barack Obama was the overwhelming favorite among Virginians. More people voted for Obama than for all Republican candidates combined.

www.wset.com/news/stories/0208/495896.html

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: robin (#38)

The votes speak for themselves.

Less than 5000 voters turned out in DC for the pubs, Why?

Because all candidates are men and all candidates are white.

Rendell is correct.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Cynicom (#40)

Barack Obama was the overwhelming favorite among Virginians. More people voted for Obama than for all Republican candidates combined.

www.wset.com/news/stories/0208/495896.html

Not necessarily, look what happened in nearby Virginia.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom (#40)

Tim Russert just said on MSNBC that White Men who had been voting for Edwards are now voting for Obama.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Brian S (#0)

I'm looking forward to seeing how low the evil Clinton's will go in order to destroy Obama and win the White House again.

"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck

X-15  posted on  2008-02-19   22:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: robin (#41)

That is what I am telling you. Blacks turn out en masse.

When March primaries are held here, without Paul in the race, I most likely will not vote for prez.

I cannot stomach any other pub. Dems on the other hand will have a choice, and the blacks and women will come out in force. Most of my friends will stay home.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: robin (#42)

Tim Russert just said on MSNBC that White Men who had been voting for Edwards are now voting for Obama.

And the white men that stayed home voted against whom???????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Cynicom (#45)

All of 'em, like you. But that means McCain could be President and bomb Iran and every other nation he is in the mood to bomb.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:36:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: robin (#42)

Less than 4000 people out of 600,000 bothered to vote for McCain in DC. Yet over 100,000 came out to vote dem...why is that??????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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