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Title: MSNBC Projects: Obama Wins Wisconsin
Source: MSNBC
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Published: Feb 19, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-02-19 21:24:29 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1174
Comments: 85

10 in a row. Impressive, indeed.

BTW, Clinton had a 25 point polling lead 2 months ago in that state. Subscribe to *Obama 2008*

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#1. To: All (#0)

I stand corrected. According to the AP, it was the 9th straight win.

Obama Wins Wisconsin, 9th Straight

(02-19) 18:24 PST WASHINGTON, (AP) --

Barack Obama has won the Wisconsin primary, his ninth straight triumph over a fading Hillary Rodham Clinton in their epic struggle for the Democratic presidential nomination.

The Associated Press made its call Tuesday night based on surveys of voters as they left the polls.

www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi? f=/n/a/2008/02/19/politics/p002349S31.DTL&type=politics&tsp=1

Brian S  posted on  2008-02-19   21:28:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#1)

Obummer wins, he loses, McCain wins. We lose either way.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:31:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#2)

OMG!!! McFart did his 'vision' speech tonite. He said 'I know who I am', which is probably not exactly true or not true most of the time.

Then, Hillory shows up on the tube. She says "go to my web site and give me some of your money".

LOL

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-19   21:39:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#7)

OMG!!! McFart did his 'vision' speech tonite. He said 'I know who I am', which is probably not exactly true or not true most of the time.

Then, Hillory shows up on the tube. She says "go to my web site and give me some of your money".

LOL

I saw it all too! Good synopsis.

Now Obama is telling Texans to vote early.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:42:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robin (#10)

It's funny how the Hillory now says 'forget change, I got the experience' but, back in 1992, she and Billy were saying 'elect us because America needs change, forget the experience'.

LOL - Obamer says, the problem in America is not the lack of good ideas but Washington becoming the place where ideas go to die. I remember Gary Hart's campaign, back in 1984, I think. He was running the campaign of 'new ideas'. His shtick was his picture on the TV screen set on top on what the media were all calling 'a high-tech grid' which was a black background with thin blue lines, intersecting at angles that were not 'right'. So he was the man of 'new ideas'.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-19   21:50:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#17)

It's funny how the Hillory now says 'forget change, I got the experience' but, back in 1992, she and Billy were saying 'elect us because America needs change, forget the experience'.

LOL - Obamer says, the problem in America is not the lack of good ideas but Washington becoming the place where ideas go to die.

That's good. And you have a good memory. ;)

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:51:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin (#18)

DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES / CAUCUSES February 12, 2008

REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES / CAUCUSES February 12, 2008 Race

Status

Candidate

Votes

Vote%

Del*

Precincts District of Columbia Primary Updated 11:34 a.m. EST, Feb 14, 2008

County Results

Obama

85,534

75%

11

98% reporting

Clinton

27,326

24%

3

Uncommitted

297

1%

0

Race

Status

Candidate

Votes

Vote%

Del*

Precincts District of Columbia Primary Updated 11:34 a.m. EST, Feb 14, 2008

County Results

McCain

3,929

68%

16

98% reporti

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:52:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#19)

Why do you care about the primary results in DC?

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:54:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: robin (#20)

I dont...I am trying to show you how the numbers are skewed...Who do think was out voting on a bad day in DC????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:56:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#22)

Wisconsin Exit Polls:
Obama Won:
Women (51-49)
All age groups under 65
All education levels
All regions of the state -- urban, suburban and rural
Voters without college degrees (50-48)
Democrats (50-49)
Whites (53-46)

White men (59-38)
Voters who decided in the last week (58-42)

Won or tied voters of all income levels
Tied among white women
Tied among union members
Tied among union households

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:04:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robin (#25)

In DC a population of over 600,000 people, McCain gets less than 4000 votes.

We have race and gender at work here and it is skewing the numbers. This is a classic example. white men are staying home.

Saying who won among white, black or whatever is guess work. Votes totaled are facts.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:07:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#26) (Edited)

White men (59-38)

They're voting for Obama over Hillary.

BTW, DC is predominately Black.

White persons, percent, 2006 (a) 38.4% (D.C.) 80.1% (nation)

Black persons, percent, 2006 (a) 56.5% 12.8%

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:09:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robin (#27)

That is what I was saying.

The blacks turned out en masse for Obummer, women turned for Hillary and on a bad weather day the white men stayed home.

Therefore the figures are skewed.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:14:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#28)

Illinois Sen. Barack Obama pulled support from virtually all sectors of the voting public Tuesday on his way to defeating rival Sen. Hillary Clinton in the Virginia, Maryland and Washington, D.C., Democratic primaries, according to CNN exit polling.

www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS...dem.polls/?iref=hpmostpop

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:18:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: robin (#32)

CNN exit polling.

The votes are not polled, they are facts.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:22:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#36)

True, but there's no other way to know who is a young woman and who is an old man.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:23:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: robin (#38)

The votes speak for themselves.

Less than 5000 voters turned out in DC for the pubs, Why?

Because all candidates are men and all candidates are white.

Rendell is correct.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:25:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom (#40)

Tim Russert just said on MSNBC that White Men who had been voting for Edwards are now voting for Obama.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:30:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: robin (#42)

Tim Russert just said on MSNBC that White Men who had been voting for Edwards are now voting for Obama.

And the white men that stayed home voted against whom???????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:35:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Cynicom (#45)

All of 'em, like you. But that means McCain could be President and bomb Iran and every other nation he is in the mood to bomb.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:36:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: robin (#46)

All of 'em, like you. But that means McCain could be President and bomb Iran and every other nation he is in the mood to bomb.

Ever notice since day one with Bush, this country has had a bogey man????

Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Iran have all been bad guys. Paul is the ONLY one that has said come all the way home and stay here. all of the rest are part and parcel of the system.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:41:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Cynicom (#49)

Yes, Ron Paul is the only one. Do you think if he loses his congressional seat there's a chance he'll run Independent?

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:42:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: robin (#50)

You probably read the remark by Obummers wife that now is the first time she has ever been proud of this country.

Just what the white folks of this country want to hear. Spit in my face than ask for my vote. Sure, right.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:50:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Cynicom (#54)

I don't think she meant it quite that way. A guy at work, who said he really likes Ron Paul, claims Obama's wife is very bright. I've never heard her speak.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:51:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: robin (#56)

I don't think she meant it quite that way. A guy at work, who said he really likes Ron Paul, claims Obama's wife is very bright. I've never heard her speak.

Bright blacks do not like whites either. Education has nothing to do with it.

I worked with a large group of black professionals years ago, it ranged from disdain, dislike to hatred of whites. One on one different but as a group, solid dislike.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:55:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Cynicom (#59)

You never lived in California. Except for rough inner-city neighborhoods, it's mostly friendly here. Maybe it's the large illegal population, it might draw American citizens closer to one another. Who knows?

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   23:03:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: robin (#61)

Oh my goodness. I certainly did live in CA. With the military and Fed gubmint and on my own have lived in many states and several large cities.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   23:05:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Cynicom (#62)

I just haven't experienced what you describe. I remember a couple black women who were hostile, but they were hostile to everyone. In San Fran I remember a couple black women going out of their way to be helpful to me.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   23:07:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: robin (#63)

Having a black pull a knife on you in an inner city and threaten to slit your throat just because you are white is an experience one never forgets.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   23:11:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Cynicom (#64)

Having a black pull a knife on you in an inner city and threaten to slit your throat just because you are white is an experience one never forgets.

So is having a black fellow-student lug you through a year of physics classes like an over laden beast of burden.

Thank you Charlie Johnson, wherever you are, for helping me avoid living forever in a physics classroom.

noone222  posted on  2008-02-20   5:41:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: noone222 (#70)

So is having a black fellow-student lug you through a year of physics classes like an over laden beast of burden.

It was another black that took the knife away. I never forgot that either.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-20   5:47:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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