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Title: MSNBC Projects: Obama Wins Wisconsin
Source: MSNBC
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Published: Feb 19, 2008
Author: MSNBC
Post Date: 2008-02-19 21:24:29 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1105
Comments: 85

10 in a row. Impressive, indeed.

BTW, Clinton had a 25 point polling lead 2 months ago in that state. Subscribe to *Obama 2008*

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#1. To: All (#0)

I stand corrected. According to the AP, it was the 9th straight win.

Obama Wins Wisconsin, 9th Straight

(02-19) 18:24 PST WASHINGTON, (AP) --

Barack Obama has won the Wisconsin primary, his ninth straight triumph over a fading Hillary Rodham Clinton in their epic struggle for the Democratic presidential nomination.

The Associated Press made its call Tuesday night based on surveys of voters as they left the polls.

www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi? f=/n/a/2008/02/19/politics/p002349S31.DTL&type=politics&tsp=1

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2008-02-19   21:28:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#1)

Obummer wins, he loses, McCain wins. We lose either way.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#2)

Obama will slaughter McInsane in the general election.

The dem turnout in this primary season has shattered all records and they are motivated to purge DC of the war-mongering neocons and the old clinton machine.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2008-02-19   21:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#3)

Never happen.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:35:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#4)

In national head-to-head polls taken in February, McCain has a slight lead over Clinton, but it’s not statistically significant, meaning that the apparent difference can’t be distinguished from random variation. The two are essentially even. Obama, on the other hand, is somewhat favored over McCain. In the same February polls, he outperforms McCain by about 5 percentage points on average—a margin that is statistically significant.

Who's More Electable: Clinton or Obama?
blogs.forbes.com/trailwat...8/02/whos-more-elect.html

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:37:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robin (#5)

Clinton going away.

I could have said by a scrawny neck.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:39:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Cynicom (#2)

OMG!!! McFart did his 'vision' speech tonite. He said 'I know who I am', which is probably not exactly true or not true most of the time.

Then, Hillory shows up on the tube. She says "go to my web site and give me some of your money".

LOL

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-19   21:39:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#6)

Gov Rendell of Pa put it very blunt and he is NY Jew. White people are not willing to vote for a black president.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#7)

Republicans overwhelmingly voted for more war.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#7)

OMG!!! McFart did his 'vision' speech tonite. He said 'I know who I am', which is probably not exactly true or not true most of the time.

Then, Hillory shows up on the tube. She says "go to my web site and give me some of your money".

LOL

I saw it all too! Good synopsis.

Now Obama is telling Texans to vote early.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:42:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: robin (#10)

In general, people that vote in primaries are not a cross section of voters, either dem or pub.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#8)

You know I already listed all the predominately white states that Obama won. So, I must disagree with Rendell, based on the facts.

A lot of young people are motivated to turn out and vote. And they do not share the same dislikes of Rendell.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#11)

Obama, like Ron Paul, has a huge grassroots support. Lots of first time voters.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: robin (#10)

Obummer/McCain, McCain and war win. Obummer wins, we lose also.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:45:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#14)

I'm looking for less war, my expectations are not high.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#13)

Robin if you check the numbers in DC you will see how those figures are skewed.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:46:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robin (#10)

It's funny how the Hillory now says 'forget change, I got the experience' but, back in 1992, she and Billy were saying 'elect us because America needs change, forget the experience'.

LOL - Obamer says, the problem in America is not the lack of good ideas but Washington becoming the place where ideas go to die. I remember Gary Hart's campaign, back in 1984, I think. He was running the campaign of 'new ideas'. His shtick was his picture on the TV screen set on top on what the media were all calling 'a high-tech grid' which was a black background with thin blue lines, intersecting at angles that were not 'right'. So he was the man of 'new ideas'.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-02-19   21:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#17)

It's funny how the Hillory now says 'forget change, I got the experience' but, back in 1992, she and Billy were saying 'elect us because America needs change, forget the experience'.

LOL - Obamer says, the problem in America is not the lack of good ideas but Washington becoming the place where ideas go to die.

That's good. And you have a good memory. ;)

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin (#18)

DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES / CAUCUSES February 12, 2008

REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES / CAUCUSES February 12, 2008 Race

Status

Candidate

Votes

Vote%

Del*

Precincts District of Columbia Primary Updated 11:34 a.m. EST, Feb 14, 2008

County Results

Obama

85,534

75%

11

98% reporting

Clinton

27,326

24%

3

Uncommitted

297

1%

0

Race

Status

Candidate

Votes

Vote%

Del*

Precincts District of Columbia Primary Updated 11:34 a.m. EST, Feb 14, 2008

County Results

McCain

3,929

68%

16

98% reporti

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#19)

Why do you care about the primary results in DC?

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: robin (#18)

robin...

Check the votes for Obummer and Hillary totals and the ones for McCain...

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:54:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: robin (#20)

I dont...I am trying to show you how the numbers are skewed...Who do think was out voting on a bad day in DC????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   21:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Cynicom (#22)

I think the enthusiasm for Obama explains the turnout.

However, this is a mystery:

Mystery: NY Results Say Obama Got Zero Votes In 80 Districts

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   21:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#23)

He's giving an uplifting speech with details.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:01:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#22)

Wisconsin Exit Polls:
Obama Won:
Women (51-49)
All age groups under 65
All education levels
All regions of the state -- urban, suburban and rural
Voters without college degrees (50-48)
Democrats (50-49)
Whites (53-46)

White men (59-38)
Voters who decided in the last week (58-42)

Won or tied voters of all income levels
Tied among white women
Tied among union members
Tied among union households

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robin (#25)

In DC a population of over 600,000 people, McCain gets less than 4000 votes.

We have race and gender at work here and it is skewing the numbers. This is a classic example. white men are staying home.

Saying who won among white, black or whatever is guess work. Votes totaled are facts.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#26) (Edited)

White men (59-38)

They're voting for Obama over Hillary.

BTW, DC is predominately Black.

White persons, percent, 2006 (a) 38.4% (D.C.) 80.1% (nation)

Black persons, percent, 2006 (a) 56.5% 12.8%

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robin (#27)

That is what I was saying.

The blacks turned out en masse for Obummer, women turned for Hillary and on a bad weather day the white men stayed home.

Therefore the figures are skewed.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#28)

The weather was bad in WI and white men voted for him rather than Hillary.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Brian S (#0)

Wisconsin Republican Primary 19-Feb-08

Delegates: 40

County Results --- 24% Reporting

1 McCain 50,444 54%

2 Huckabee 34,670 37%

3 Ron Paul 4,141 4%

4 Romney 1,758 2%

5 Thompson 600 1%

6 Giulliani 268 1%

7 Hunter 206 0%

Wisconsin Democratic Primary 19-Feb-08

Delegates: 87

County Results --- 29% Reporting

1 Obama 161,953 56%

2 Clinton 125,289 43%

3 Edwards 1,820 1%

4 Kucinich 641 0%

5 Richardson 188 0%

6 Joe Biden 160 0%

7 Richardson 140 0%

8 Chris Dodd 126 0%

9 Mike Gravel 115 0%

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-19   22:16:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: robin (#29)

That is via exit polls and always suspicious.

Lets say it is true, were they voting for Obummer or against Hillary????

Recall I said we have a gender and race thing skewing the numbers.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:18:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#28)

Illinois Sen. Barack Obama pulled support from virtually all sectors of the voting public Tuesday on his way to defeating rival Sen. Hillary Clinton in the Virginia, Maryland and Washington, D.C., Democratic primaries, according to CNN exit polling.

www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS...dem.polls/?iref=hpmostpop

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:18:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: robin (#29)

Come March, in Pa Obama will most likely carry Pittsburg and Philly, Clinton the rest of the state. McCain will carry all on the oub side.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#31)

there were many more people voting Democrat than Republican. Could it be that many Republicans and independents are so anti-Clinton that they have turned out in numbers just to ensure she is not on the ticket?

Certainly a portion are against Hillary. But the raw #s voting for Democrats is far higher than for GOP in every primary.

www.guardian.co.uk/news/2...rackobama.uselections2008

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:21:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#33)

Very likely.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: robin (#32)

CNN exit polling.

The votes are not polled, they are facts.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:22:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: robin (#34)

Certainly a portion are against Hillary. But the raw #s voting for Democrats is far higher than for GOP in every primary.

Black vote robin, the black vote.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#36)

True, but there's no other way to know who is a young woman and who is an old man.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Cynicom (#37) (Edited)

there were many more people voting Democrat than Republican.

Barack Obama was the overwhelming favorite among Virginians. More people voted for Obama than for all Republican candidates combined.

www.wset.com/news/stories/0208/495896.html

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: robin (#38)

The votes speak for themselves.

Less than 5000 voters turned out in DC for the pubs, Why?

Because all candidates are men and all candidates are white.

Rendell is correct.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Cynicom (#40)

Barack Obama was the overwhelming favorite among Virginians. More people voted for Obama than for all Republican candidates combined.

www.wset.com/news/stories/0208/495896.html

Not necessarily, look what happened in nearby Virginia.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Cynicom (#40)

Tim Russert just said on MSNBC that White Men who had been voting for Edwards are now voting for Obama.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Brian S (#0)

I'm looking forward to seeing how low the evil Clinton's will go in order to destroy Obama and win the White House again.

"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck

X-15  posted on  2008-02-19   22:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: robin (#41)

That is what I am telling you. Blacks turn out en masse.

When March primaries are held here, without Paul in the race, I most likely will not vote for prez.

I cannot stomach any other pub. Dems on the other hand will have a choice, and the blacks and women will come out in force. Most of my friends will stay home.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: robin (#42)

Tim Russert just said on MSNBC that White Men who had been voting for Edwards are now voting for Obama.

And the white men that stayed home voted against whom???????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Cynicom (#45)

All of 'em, like you. But that means McCain could be President and bomb Iran and every other nation he is in the mood to bomb.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:36:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: robin (#42)

Less than 4000 people out of 600,000 bothered to vote for McCain in DC. Yet over 100,000 came out to vote dem...why is that??????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Cynicom (#47)

Because McCain is a warmongering ass and everyone in D.C. knows it. Because D.C. is predominately Black and Blacks have absolutely no reason to vote for McCain.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: robin (#46)

All of 'em, like you. But that means McCain could be President and bomb Iran and every other nation he is in the mood to bomb.

Ever notice since day one with Bush, this country has had a bogey man????

Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Iran have all been bad guys. Paul is the ONLY one that has said come all the way home and stay here. all of the rest are part and parcel of the system.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Cynicom (#49)

Yes, Ron Paul is the only one. Do you think if he loses his congressional seat there's a chance he'll run Independent?

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:42:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: All (#49)

With Hillary a winner, I see McCain as part of her cabinet.

If Hillary is dem choice, most likely she will have Obummer as VP, that sort of skews the idea that he would be against war.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Brian S (#0)

White bird must fly, or she will die.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-02-19   22:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: robin (#50)

Yes, Ron Paul is the only one. Do you think if he loses his congressional seat there's a chance he'll run Independent?

No. None...

Paul by his own choice is out and age is against him in the future.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:45:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: robin (#50)

You probably read the remark by Obummers wife that now is the first time she has ever been proud of this country.

Just what the white folks of this country want to hear. Spit in my face than ask for my vote. Sure, right.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:50:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Cynicom (#51)

"The word on the street is that the Obama campaign and New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg have already met and devised an incredible plan if Clinton wins the nomination. Mayor Bloomberg would give nearly $1 billion to Obama's campaign, after which Obama would bolt from the Democratic Party and run as an Independent candidate with Bloomberg as his running mate.

The Obama-Bloomberg Secret Plan

www.rushlimbaugh.com/home...ntent/01125110.guest.html

What do you think of this crazy rumor?

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Cynicom (#54)

I don't think she meant it quite that way. A guy at work, who said he really likes Ron Paul, claims Obama's wife is very bright. I've never heard her speak.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   22:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Brian S (#0)

From da STREETS!:

"Ima keep it funky with you. Ask 10 niggas you know why they should vote for Obama, but tell them niggas to LEAVE OUT the fact that he resembles a nigga. I bet you NONE of them could answer. I think its because this nigga managed to get niggas to WANNA vote. I get phone calls from felon niggas that got out of jail from when we was HIGH SCHOOL telling me they gonna vote for Obama:

“Ayo son son, I was in the crib watchin this nigga Obama speak doggz. Yo, this nigga on POINT, B…” - Some Felonious Nigga, 2008

Nigga, God damnit… ON POINT ABOUT WHAT?!?

Even though right NOW I’m focusing on Obama ass, what the FUCK has that nigga said (lied about) that you ain’t heard from everyone ELSE!?! Let’s run down the list:

Affordable Health Care for all Americans… Has ANY of these lyin ass niggas ever heard of CANADA?

Jobs for all Americans… Meanwhile niggas like US helping niggas out and we AIN’T politicians.

End the War… See, this is my favorite because all those flag flying, war preachin, anti-cab driver honkeys that went militant on 9/12/2001 and sent Brad and Brody off to war realized they fucked up and now they want them post dramstic stress disorder to come home..)

Obama looks like a good dude, but that nigga ain’t telling me SHIT the rest of them haven’t twisted up and said all over again. Now Ima look at his MAIN competition: Hillary Clinton.

DatNiggaPeas said he gonna ride with her, but honestly doggz… WHY? You said she would be good for young niggas, but the ONLY time you ever seen this bitch around niggas was when BILL was there. See, that slick dick large fries, gettin brain from a bitch with Altoids in her mouth ass nigga is LOVED in the ghetto, cause once that nigga got on NATIONAL TV damnit, and RE-WORDED what he did and WON, he earned my respect. That nigga gettin dome, probably gave that nasty bitch the launch codes, told her how ice cold Hillary pussy is AND STILL ain’t get fully impeached… and niggas everywhere tipped they fitted hats to that nigga. Where was Hilary, nigga? Planning her rise to power, gettin lie after lie stirred up, waiting for a chance, and now look: Black niggas don’t vote for her, but she got every motherfucking WOMAN brainwashed the SAME way Obama got to these niggas that ain’t never been NEAR a ballot box. Not even an endorsement from Oprah, “the queen of everything” Winfrey got Obama the woman vote.

On the republican side, you got a nigga that rolls with Chuck fuckin Norris on the REGULAR (and that shit is weird for real) and a psychotic-ass 97 year old former POW war-crazy nigga. That nigga was locked up in a jungle prison for 5 years and notice he ain’t said ONCE about shutting the war down. He wanna brawl with EVERYTHING doggz and he the one poppin the most shit dude. Talking about Obama and Hilary don’t have the experience to WIN a war. Stupid ass white nigga ain’t hear the war is UNWINABLE, especially when you up against a culture that’s fully prepared to strap C-4 to a 3 year old with muscular dystrophy and his 88 year old quadrapelegic grandmother and roll them into a school full of infants.

Bottom line niggas, go ahead and lie to your boss to get out on election day, but if you think a pale-faced, well versed nigga, or a vindictive, cold bitch that don’t give a FUCK about some excited niggas voting for her gonna help us, you about as dumb as Al Sharpton AND Jesse Jackson thinkin they could get in office.

Lyin ass politicians. Nigga, we doomed either way. Only debate I’m worried about right now is another LCD for my crib off my tax money or a half of LB of Piff to flip. My politics begin in the HOOD nigga.

source: http://www.niggaknow.com/advice/this-election-bullshit/#more-528

"There is a Providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America." - Otto von Bismarck

X-15  posted on  2008-02-19   22:52:00 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: robin (#55)

Unadulterated nonsense.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: robin (#56)

I don't think she meant it quite that way. A guy at work, who said he really likes Ron Paul, claims Obama's wife is very bright. I've never heard her speak.

Bright blacks do not like whites either. Education has nothing to do with it.

I worked with a large group of black professionals years ago, it ranged from disdain, dislike to hatred of whites. One on one different but as a group, solid dislike.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   22:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Cynicom (#58)

I agree, funny that Limbaugh repeated it.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   23:00:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Cynicom (#59)

You never lived in California. Except for rough inner-city neighborhoods, it's mostly friendly here. Maybe it's the large illegal population, it might draw American citizens closer to one another. Who knows?

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   23:03:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: robin (#61)

Oh my goodness. I certainly did live in CA. With the military and Fed gubmint and on my own have lived in many states and several large cities.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   23:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Cynicom (#62)

I just haven't experienced what you describe. I remember a couple black women who were hostile, but they were hostile to everyone. In San Fran I remember a couple black women going out of their way to be helpful to me.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   23:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: robin (#63)

Having a black pull a knife on you in an inner city and threaten to slit your throat just because you are white is an experience one never forgets.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-19   23:11:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Cynicom (#64)

No it isn't. There are a couple milder stories in my family but when I was a child their skin color was edited out. Later I learned. We were not allowed to harbor racist ideas. Except for my uncle who joined the Navy and served through WWII. He is a total racist, despite his tolerant and Christian parents and siblings. He learned to hate people for their DNA in the US Navy.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-19   23:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Brian S (#0)

MSNBC Projects: Obama Wins Wisconsin

HOW CAN THIS BE POSSIBLE????

IS THIS AMERICA????

(heh heh)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-02-20   0:29:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: robin (#65)

He is a total racist, despite his tolerant and Christian parents and siblings. He learned to hate people for their DNA in the US Navy.

Racism shouldn't be confused with realism. There can be little doubt that genetics play a very powerful if not dominant role in deciding abilities and disabilities. An honest appraisal and statements made respecting them are not racist in my opinion. To deny the obvious in the face of facts is hypocrisy and might be reverse racism.

"If, however, a government refrains from regulations and allows matters to take their course, essential commodities soon attain a level of price out of the reach of all but the rich, the worthlessness of the money becomes apparent, and the fraud upon the public can be concealed no longer." John Maynard Keynes

noone222  posted on  2008-02-20   5:05:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Brian S (#3)

Too bad the population appears so capable of deluding themselves.

"If, however, a government refrains from regulations and allows matters to take their course, essential commodities soon attain a level of price out of the reach of all but the rich, the worthlessness of the money becomes apparent, and the fraud upon the public can be concealed no longer." John Maynard Keynes

noone222  posted on  2008-02-20   5:36:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: robin (#65)

Everyone is a racist, everyone. Those that deny it are fooling themselves only.

There are two types of racists, those that display it and those that hide it, but the two are one and the same.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-20   5:39:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Cynicom (#64)

Having a black pull a knife on you in an inner city and threaten to slit your throat just because you are white is an experience one never forgets.

So is having a black fellow-student lug you through a year of physics classes like an over laden beast of burden.

Thank you Charlie Johnson, wherever you are, for helping me avoid living forever in a physics classroom.

"If, however, a government refrains from regulations and allows matters to take their course, essential commodities soon attain a level of price out of the reach of all but the rich, the worthlessness of the money becomes apparent, and the fraud upon the public can be concealed no longer." John Maynard Keynes

noone222  posted on  2008-02-20   5:41:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: noone222 (#70)

So is having a black fellow-student lug you through a year of physics classes like an over laden beast of burden.

It was another black that took the knife away. I never forgot that either.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-20   5:47:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Cynicom (#2)

Ob or McC We lose either way.

Yeah.

"Tune in next week to see if doing nothing helps." -Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-20   8:17:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Cynicom (#8)

White people are not willing to vote for a black president.

He's not really black. He's kinda like Cablinasian, like Tiger Woods, only with some Hawaiian influence. Will they vote Cablinasian?

"Tune in next week to see if doing nothing helps." -Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-20   8:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: angle (#73)

I just know Rendell was correct.

White male will not vote for a black and will vote for a female with great reluctance.

Cries of racism aside, facts are facts and so far the gender and race issues have skewed the primaries. In fact I suspect that if Hillary and McCain, that black men will be reluctant to vote for a female.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-20   8:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Cynicom (#74)

Who are white men gonna vote for?

"Tune in next week to see if doing nothing helps." -Deek Jackson

angle  posted on  2008-02-20   8:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: angle (#75)

Those that are hide bound two party system believers will hold their noses and vote party.

Those that are independent and thinking men will most likely vote lessor of two evils or leave it blank.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-20   8:57:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: robin (#56)

I don't think she meant it quite that way. A guy at work, who said he really likes Ron Paul, claims Obama's wife is very bright. I've never heard her speak.

It would appear that she isn't all that bright from her dumb comment yesterday about how this was the first time in her adult life she had been proud of the country. That was some stupid $#it right there from someone whose husband is running for president.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

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James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-02-20   9:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Cynicom (#76)

The "white man" demographic is probably less than 40 percent of the electorate. Unless ALL the white men turn out in droves and vote UNANIMOUSLY for McInsane, I don't see him LEGITIMATELY winning in November.

However, with black box voting, ANYTHING is possible. The black box may be programmed to only be a "white box" in terms of the only allowable race for whom one can vote. Maybe another clue as to what is allowed in this country is the fact they call it the "White" House.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-02-20   9:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Sam Houston (#78) (Edited)

I have long been a student of political statistics..They do not lie but one has to analyze their meanings.

For instance DC voting over 100,000 dem votes and 5000 pub votes is cause for examination such as we just saw a few days ago.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-20   9:31:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Cynicom (#79)

I have long been a student of political statistics..They do not lie but one has to analyze their meanings.

And if objectively analyzed, is easy to see the whole picture, i.e., Hitlery in Whitehouse.

Phant2000  posted on  2008-02-20   9:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Phant2000 (#80)

Rendell knows of what he speaks and he is a Hillary supporter.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-20   9:37:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Cynicom (#81) (Edited)

Rendell knows of what he speaks ...

Indeed. On the other hand, Hitlery will never give up her goal, if it means "screaming" all the way to the Supreme Court.

Phant2000  posted on  2008-02-20   9:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Phant2000 (#82)

Hitlery well never give up her goal, if it means "screaming" all the way to the Supreme Court.

Typical female. hehehehehehehe

Cynicom  posted on  2008-02-20   9:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Sam Houston (#78)

I'll be very surprised if Obama doesn't win a majority of the white male demographic against McCain in November. (He might very well not get a majority of white males over the age of 60, or even 50, maybe.)

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-02-20   10:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: aristeides (#84)

Barack Obama was the overwhelming favorite among Virginians. More people voted for Obama than for all Republican candidates combined.

www.wset.com/news/stories/0208/495896.html

I heard Tim Russert say last night on MSNBC that the white males who had been voting for Edwards, appear to be voting for Obama now.

In WI:
White men (59-38) 59% voted for Obama, 38% for Hillary, based on Exit polls.

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-20   10:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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