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Title: Broadcast of Jack McLamb's Show with Guest Charles Carlson from We Hold These Truths (Indictment of the churches and their leaders)
Source: RBN
URL Source: http://mp3.rbnlive.com/McLamb05.html
Published: Jun 25, 2005
Author: n/a
Post Date: 2005-06-25 14:38:02 by christine
Keywords: (Indictment, Broadcast, McLambs
Views: 66
Comments: 2

Click on the Thursday, June 16th show.

Here is an article from We Hold These Truths

Scofield: Soft Leather Outside, Corrupt Inside.

Charles E. Carlson

Answering Steve:

“What do you consider is the most honest truthful Bible interpretation a

Christian can read today?”

Regards, Steve

Dear Steve:

We hear this question a lot, and we are not experts, but this writer has an opinion. There are two Bibles, not one, the Old and New Testaments. They should never have been combined to look like one book. To do so is like publishing a modern 2005 physics book with a 1910 physics edition pasted on in front. Physics has changed in those 95 years, and the Old Testament and the New are thousands of years apart, why would one have to read the old first to get to the new?

If you are a Jew contemplating following Christ, you may need an Old Testament to help you decide if Jesus is really the fulfillment of Biblical prophesy, as He claims. For most of us, the OT should be reference history. Jesus said He fulfilled the old law, if we believe Him we don't need to wade through the ancient 600 laws of Deuteronomy 28 to get there. The NT is about following Christ, and it is only about 250 full-sized pages. It does not contain a coherent thought in it about killing people or making war on your leaders' supposed enemies. You cannot find a verse or line about taking your neighbor's land by force or making a slave out of his children. So read the New Testament first. Its authors will tell you when and where you need to read backwards into history.

As for what edition of the NT is trustworthy, my humble suggestion may surprise you, and I have only read a few. Do not worry too much about which translation you should read. Buy a New Testament that fits your pocket and has big enough print for you. Choose one, if you can find it, without a single footnote or inserted guides between and among the text.

We sell a low priced one called the "Vest-Pocket size New Testament" commonly known as the King James Version (KJV). But I don't personally carry it because I have trouble reading aloud from the old English. I much prefer the Good News New Testament, published by the American Bible Society. Some theologians malign this one, but its footnote free, and it gets the story across in context. It is also very easily understood by children. You can always check and compare the text in your oversized 2000 page King James Version on the shelf at home. Carry this one in your pocket.

A word about the most DISHONEST bible interpretations. We have learned by comparing that several study or reference bibles compete for the bottom of the barrel, including the NIV Study Bible, published by Zondervan and controlled by Australian secularist, Rupert Murdock through his reported ownership of Harper and Row. Mr. Murdock borrowed about $400 million from Citibank to purchase Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network a few years ago, and he owns Fox News (which give the furry animal a bad name).

Similarly devious and cleverly disguised is John McArthur's study bible, which undermines the New Testament. The all time best seller is the Scofield Reference Bible that set a standard for corrupted footnoting when it created a national "sin of anti-Semitism." Between its disarmingly beautiful leather covers are pages that claim it is God's will to judge all nations based on how generous they are to "Jews." This should be called the Zionist's 11th commandment. You will find this amazing law on pages 19-20 of the 1967 Edition.

Most study bibles have a thousand pages of footnotes or more. The Scofield Reference Bible is the unchallenged king of bible corruption, being totally shameless in its sponsorship of Israel as a nation-god. It is the primary textbook for "Christian" enabler of serial wars in the Mideast and the liquidation of Israel's neighbors. You can find Scofield 1967 Editions in used books store, cheap. It proves what the World Zionist Movement wants you to think. -end

DEAR MR. HEYMANN,

I am again quoting your latest letter, which defies answering for want of sincerity. This does not mean we will not debate with you if you will play by reasonable rules.

Here is our last letter we sent to you earlier.

To Mr. Heymann

I see we have answered several of your letters (more correctly, we acknowledged them) but you have not asked specific questions. Give us the one piece of scripture that supports your view that the State of Israel is a fulfillment of Bible prophesies. (Or whatever points you are trying to make). Please give us the best argument you have from one place within the Bible. We believe God is intelligent; therefore there should be an intelligent argument in one place by one of his prophets or disciples, or from Jesus Christ himself to support your view. Just one now, your best shot please." -cecarl

Here is what Mr. Heymann sent to us, verbatim:

Isaiah 66:8 "Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall the earth be made to give birth in one day? Or shall a nation be born at once? Fulfilled May 14,1948

Romans11:1 "I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

Romans 11:18 "Do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast,

remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you."

Romans 11: 25 "For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in."

The Jewish people have been hated and persecuted more than any other people on the face of the planet. And why?

The only reason that makes any sense is that it is purely inspired by Satan. God has made promises to Israel. That they are His chosen witness people. Their existence today is a miracle and a sign of God's great hand of sovereignty.

In 1948 there were only 300,000 Jews in Israel and they were attacked by 1.6 million Arabs yet they prevailed with inferior firepower and obviously well outnumbered.

Am I against preaching the word to Palestinians? Of course not. The existence of Israel is only the work of the hand of God. And Israel has become a "cup of trembling" to the entire world as prophesied in the Old Testament.

Who are the 144,000 witnesses spoken of in the end times if not believing Jews?

Aided with the nation of Israel by God, and the God of the bible is the same yesterday, today and forever He does not change.

By the way Carl your e-mail seemed a little hostile but then again the Gospel is an offense and sometimes I understand the truth does hurt. However what you feel is irrelevant God said it, I believe it, and that settles it."

-End

Why we do answer the above

Mr. Heymann, we want our readers to recognize how you and so many others caught up in Judaized-Christianity think and argue. By sending us the alphabet soup of unrelated scripture, garnished with your own thoughts, what you do is imply an incomprehensible God who is not capable of making himself understood. You make your god out to be a C-student dyslexic who can't write a clear page or verse. Not so, God is at least as intelligent as you are. He does not need you to patch His thoughts together with random bits and pieces of scriptures gathered from here and there. This is so typical of what Judaized-Christians do when they are confronted that we want our readers to see it.

If you want to talk to We Hold These Truths through scripture, and be answered, please let God speak for Himself. Do not ask us to join in insulting His name by playing Judaized-Christian scrabble.

Again, let me say this: to get an answer from us, you have only to pick your one best, most self-evident argument; then give us the full quote you are standing on, then explain in detail what you think this citation of yours means and why.

CECarlson

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#1. To: Zipporah, rowdee, Starwind, Barak, 1776, CAPPSMADNESS, robin, itisa1mosttoolate, Dude Lebowski, Diana, Arator, Bayonne, Flintlock, Jethro Tull, Flintlock, fatidic, FormerLurker, gengis gandhi, justlurking, lightmind, ALL (#0)

Carlson answers the question, "why are American christians promoting all this death and destruction against the Arab people?" Really worth a listen ping.

christine  posted on  2005-06-25   14:47:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

Mr. Murdock borrowed about $400 million from Citibank to purchase Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network a few years ago, and he owns Fox News (which give the furry animal a bad name).

Hmm I wasnt aware of this.. I do disagree with Carlson regarding which translation to use .. the Good News NT is not a translation and is fine if you dont use it for study ..

Candles in the Rain

Zipporah  posted on  2005-06-25   15:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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