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Title: Secret Service Halts Obama security in Dallas
Source: Daily Kos
URL Source: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/21/155031/473/350/461386
Published: Feb 21, 2008
Author: "la urracca"
Post Date: 2008-02-21 17:09:47 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 316
Comments: 8

Secret Service Halts Obama security in Dallas

by la urracca [Subscribe]
Thu Feb 21, 2008 at 01:18:34 PM PST

I find this terrifying...

Evidently, the Secret Service in Dallas gave an order to stop screening for weapons, an hour before Obama took the stage. This was supposedly in order to "expedite" moving the crowd.

More below...

Stop screening for weapons? In Dallas?

Several of the police officers present were very concerned, but did not feel that they could comment because the order came from a Federal agency.

The Dallas Deputy Police Chief said, " It seemed a friendly crowd.."

From another source:

"Apparently the Secret Service was overwhelmed by the size of the crowds. They had set up screenings, but by the time our group made it to the door they were already packing their equipment. I suspect the campaign encouraged them to withdraw to allow the huge volume of humanity into the hall before the speeches started. According to news reports several thousand people who arrived late were turned away as the arena was filled to capacity."

The Secret Service did not return calls from Dallas newspapers.

Sorry this is so brief...I have not yet been able to find more, but will update if I do.

Now...is my concern misplaced? Or is this as worrisome as I think it is...?

Police concerned about order to stop screening

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#1. To: aristeides, Brian S, Elliott Jackalope, iconoclast (#0) (Edited)

The Secret Service did not return a call from the Star-Telegram seeking comment.

Doors opened to the public at 10 a.m., and for the first hour security officers scanned each person who came in and checked their belongings in a process that kept movement of the long lines at a crawl. Then, about 11 a.m., an order came down to allow the people in without being checked.

Several Dallas police officers said it worried them that the arena was packed with people who got in without even a cursory inspection.

They spoke on condition of anonymity because, they said, the order was made by federal officials who were in charge of security at the event.

"How can you not be concerned in this day and age," said one policeman.

The Dallas Deputy Police Chief said, " It seemed a friendly crowd.."

sure, friendly to whom?

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-21   17:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#1)

Remember the Financial Times profile of Michelle Obama that I posted here last week. According to that piece, Michelle Obama told the reporter that the Secret Service had started providing protection to herself and her husband after they had gotten death threats.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-02-21   17:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: aristeides (#2)

makes this "friendly crowd" excuse all the stranger

'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.

robin  posted on  2008-02-21   17:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: aristeides (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2008-02-21   17:47:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ghostdogtxn (#4)

Maybe they were just sending a message to Obama. This time.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2008-02-21   18:49:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: aristeides (#0)

The Dallas Deputy Police Chief said, " It seemed a friendly crowd.."

The Dallas PD liked Jack Ruby too.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2008-02-21   19:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: aristeides (#0)

Evidently, the Secret Service in Dallas gave an order to stop screening for weapons, an hour before Obama took the stage. This was supposedly in order to "expedite" moving the crowd.

What did Hillary do .. camp out there?

Success is relative. It is what we can make of the mess we have made of things. T. S. Eliot

iconoclast  posted on  2008-02-21   22:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: aristeides (#0)

"Apparently the Secret Service was overwhelmed by the size of the crowds.

When I went to my college reunion in the fall many friends missed the kickoff to the football game and part of the first quarter because of security and the lines it created. I didn't go to the game.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2008-02-21   23:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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